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Resource "based" economy incursion. A long time ago this was unpredictable and nearly invisible.

>But user, that's already what's happening
I mean under capitalism. That is already what has happened under capitalism anywhere it exists in the world. Just in case that wasn't clear

Ideological extremism argument. tl;dr about rats in the bologna factory, fire in the theater, or unearned wealth as a primordial crime against humanity with any understanding or comprehension.

Wut?

>libertarian left
Literally no such thing, you're just an authoritarian

>That's effectively what private property is
No it's not, it's allowing people to own property. A state monopolizing ALL production means the people aren't allowed to own property.

>I mean under capitalism...
Muh Ideology is muh butthurt feelinz.
(you) propose the jannies are as good as the trolls. lololololololuz. How does that hook in your mouth feel, fish? How does that hook in yer gutz feel, worm? How does that bee taste in yer mouf, Frog? How does division by zero feel, Anonymous? Still can't solve the jabberwocky?
Sucketh to be a (you) while Ephriam rises.

any faggot scared of authority had no relationship with his father.

tell me: how old were you when your parents got divorced?

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Why would you say there's no thing as the libertarian left? Makes no sense. How can you just blanket call me an authoritarian? I objectively believe in less statism than anyone on the right. The only reason you think that is because most people like me recognize that if you're going to have private property, which is statism, then obviously you need to provide some social safety net to the people who you've oppressed and thieved the Earth from in the form of welfare.

And I don't believe in the state monopolizing production. I said I was a member of the libertarian left, lol, not the authoritarian left. But the state already monopolizes all of the means of production, de facto, under our current system, through many mechanisms. Corporate welfare and private property being two of the major ones. It also protects de facto monopolies through the tax code, which is biased against anyone who isn't a corporate billionaire crony.

So the entire system we have right now is exactly what you claim to hate, and it's all happening under capitalism, not socialism. It's actually happening BECAUSE of the profit incentive tied to capitalism.

Dude I have no idea what your last 2 comments have been trying to say. It's like you took acid or something and then started typing. It's like your brain shut down when you were actually confronted with an opposing view and called upon to defend your suppositions, preconceived notions and beliefs

nice fucking digits comrade user, but you too must learn the value of authority

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Burger sind noch nicht bereit für den Sozialismus

>Wut?
Simple. Mass media in the 19th century was publishing. Webster was entrusted to steer the language toward an unified solution. Fail.Epic fail. Those who are capable of weaponizing language control the authorship of new words.

S M H, why do you people do what you do. I am not your comrade.

>communist
>intellectuals
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ok zizek

You people just enjoy being enslaved and it's hilarious.
Why do you think everyone wanted to leave your hellholes?

All tankie nations have been destroyed except for DPRK lol

come to papa comrade.

A better world is waiting, together we can usher it in!
Your heart is in the right place, you're just naive.

listen faggot you seem to think government is the e only instrument of social oppression.

You claim to. value freedom. But the "free market" is an instrument of oppression wielded by those with capital against those who lack it.
Care to square that circle?

and again, how old were you when your parents divorced?

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CUBA
VIETNAM
PRC

just wait my friend, the wheel of time creaks as it slowly turns, but the revolutionary tide is rising

>come to papa comrade.
>A better world is waiting, together we can usher it in!
>Your heart is in the right place, you're just naive.
No buddy. I believe in freedom, sorry. And a person can be unemployed and hungry and perfectly happy if they know how to work the land, and build the things they need from the Earth. Authoritarian leftism and capitalism both destroy the spirit by benefiting from keeping humanity ignorant and helpless. Both systems curate the human mind to focus on non-essential skills via the school systems. They brainfry the kids, don't teach them agriculture, or basic building, or basic electrical engineering, or the basics of generating their own energy. All scams. What your supporting will lead to the worst sort of evil, enslavement and perversion of whatever tiny shreds of the human soul are still leftover and holding the promise of being potentially redeemed

>VIETNAM
lmao they're extremely capitalist now, the amount of state owned firms keeps dropping
Also they're friends with america now

SEETHE
also cuba is a shithole

also china is capitalist lmao

>just wait my friend, the wheel of time creaks as it slowly turns, but the revolutionary tide is rising
hahahha
Dude you had your fucking chance. It's OVER.
Nobody wants to live in your poverty stricken religious cult states.
Go practice your slave fetish elsewhere.

>where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another.
lel&KeK
Nothing one can do for the gobblermut will satisfy the lust for power over others exhibited by the gobblermutt. Anywhere power exerts itself either singly or in numbers is an enemy of centralized authority. The age of Micromanagement is dead, and good riddance to it. I'll take 1 plumber or electrician over ten legion of know nothing, do nothing revolutionaries because I have better marksmanship and I know it.

shit i thought you were just a dumb highschooler when in fact you're a hippy fucking glownigger

>And a person can be unemployed and hungry and perfectly happy if they know how to work the land, and build the things they need from the Earth.

sure. assuming own or can access land to do such with.

>Both systems curate the human mind to focus on non-essential skills via the school systems
every single education system is geared towards creating productive future members of the society which houses it.
oh except for anarchists, because they wouldn't be able to even put together an education system--too oppressive!
guess it'd be homeschooling for all.
oh wait--too oppressive--family is an exploitative patriarchal construct.
So I suppose we'd all self-taught in your fucking utopia.
which means in a generation or two we'd all be illiterate.

ah finally free from the oppression of standardized language!

fuck off kid.

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You're putting a lot of words in my mouth. I'm not an anarchist. I'm a libertarian. Just because I'm libertarian and pretty far to the left doesn't make me inherently "anarchist". Homeschooling is really good. I never said family was a patriarchal construct. You're just strawmanning the shit out of me and making up shit that I did not ever say, blatantly

You say "assuming you own or can access land to do such with" well yeah duh. That's the point of not really believing in private property. At least private property in the sense we have it today in our society.

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I want to make American into an Imaginationalist country.

>every single education system is geared towards creating productive future members of the society which houses it.
Nice story. Tell it to Redditorz Digest.
Every single pedagogical system thinks the law of gravity means gravity didn't exist until it was numerated. Wrong. In order to create perfect chaos, one must first plan for perfect order. The degrees of covariant observations must become the new boilerplate for the scientific method. Any other method can observe reality and record it, or comment on it and try to disregard it. Scientific method after infiltration.

Operation has been working for over 17 years.
Not the oldest Zero Day but a decent and close second. Stay frosty, user. Shit is about to get real.

>Welfare programs.
>Social spending.

Too late.

>via the school systems.
The school system is literally a STATIST construct you absolute fucking moron. If it were a free market, the kids would actually LEARN.

It's the state which has historically destroyed private property. Private property is an inherent part of anarchism. You people want to make it illegal to accumulate capital or start a firm or hire employees. You're authoritarian.

Wait wut? How would the school system be a "free market". LMFAO this sounds like it makes no sense. Right-wing libertarians trying to say school systems should be "free markets" now, I mean WTF? How would that even work?

The capitalist one is better, it's always better.

>Wait wut? How would the school system be a "free market".
Privatize all education completely. I know such a thing is foreign to statists like yourself.

>How would that even work?
People trade money to people to teach them things.
>WhoaaAaaaaAa?!!
Crazy thought I know

>Private property is an inherent part of anarchism.
Wut
>You people want to make it illegal to accumulate capital or start a firm or hire employees. You're authoritarian.
Dude, you literally only "accumulate" all of this stuff because the state protects it for you with violence. Now I am sorry, you are entitled to feel whatever way you want to feel about political issues, but it is simply beyond any sort of contention or debate that your private property exists because of statism and authoritarianism. So like, you can't have it both ways. Either you like private property, and you're the statist authoritarian, or you don't like statist authoritarianism, and you're a lefty libertarian like me who doesn't believe in private property.

>Privatize all education completely. I know such a thing is foreign to statists like yourself.
Wouldn't this be like just selling our children into slavery to corporations like Apple? You understand that many of these big corporations have a history of using literal child slavery, right? This idea is insane

Never heard of private schooling?

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>You're putting a lot of words in my mouth.
Well there's something else I'd like to put in your mouth but I'll settle for words right now.
>I'm not an anarchist. I'm a libertarian.
>That's the point of not really believing in private property. At least private property in the sense we have it today in our society.
Yes property is theft is one of the oldest maxims of anarchism.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

>Q nigger lecturing others about the scientific method
bless your heart user

>This idea is insane
capitalists are insane

capitalism is responsible for most of thee degeneracy Yas Forumsacks lament.
If only more had enough awareness to realize it.

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Ive got a better one,
FUCK THE POOR
FUCK JEWS
FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK JANNIES

capitalism is literally robbery

"Private" schooling in the USA is not really "privatized" in the sense that I assume the canada-user is referring to it. A "privatized" school in the USA is still largely under the purview and control of the government. I don't think I'm being unrealistic to assume that is talking about something entirely different. If he wants to respond I'm all ears

poor, sad normie snowflake.

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>America will NEVER be a socialist country
MAGA

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>Wut
of course
left wing "anarchism" is an authoritarian joke
democracy is a scam

>Dude, you literally only "accumulate" all of this stuff because the state protects it for you with violence.
I save money because the state protects other people from stealing my shit?
Yes, and this is one of the the only good things they do but they're not even that good at it and it would be better if I just paid a security firm to defend me and my money.

>but it is simply beyond any sort of contention or debate that your private property exists because of statism and authoritarianism.
lmao you people are a religious cult and your ideology is completely ahistorical
private property has existed in actual anarchism and polycentric law before

>and you're a lefty libertarian like me who doesn't believe in private property.
You're not libertarian at all if you want to use violence against people who accumulate money and use it to better their lives by increasing society's level of production

you're not only an authoritarian, you're a parasite
stop watching non-compete you closeted tankie shitstain

>Wouldn't this be like just selling our children into slavery to corporations like Apple?
Or quality education firms?
Why is your idea of all companies like Apple?

The funniest think about tankie incels basement dwellers is that their dreams will never come true. lol

>no Socialism, ever
>but giving billions to corporations and banks is A-OK
>as long as it doesn't help any poor or sick people
This is the modern "conservative" ethos.

>left wing "anarchism" is an authoritarian joke
OK for like the 10th time in this thread, I never said I was an anarchist. I said I was a lefty libertarian. That = / = "anarchist". But whatever.
Anarchism is certainly not authoritarian though. Pretty much the opposite of authoritarianism. I think it's a flawed set of ideas in practical terms, but it's definitely a grossly anti-authoritarian ideology.
>democracy is a scam
WTF man. You people can't even be real
>I save money because the state protects other people from stealing my shit?
>Yes, and this is one of the the only good things they do
OK. So you are an authoritarian and you see the state as your protector against the "scary poor people". There you go. You run to use the state's monopoly on violence to protect your little "private" empire, even as you're whining about how the state is so awful and good for nothing
>but they're not even that good at it and it would be better if I just paid a security firm to defend me and my money.
Actually if you're going to anarcho-capitalist-ville, then you'd have a hard time doing this, since without a govt there are no laws against theft and the private security firm would have its best interest be just to steal your shit and leave you high and dry. Somehow this thought never occurs to anarcho capitalists
>You're not libertarian at all if you want to use violence against people who accumulate money and use it to better their lives by increasing society's level of production
"Not wanting to use violence to protect stuff for the rich is violence"
I mean this is literally the level of entitlement that people like you have about the world, the state and its role in protection "your" massive private empires, which at a certain point you are just stealing from the rest of humanity for arbitrary reasons.
>you're not only an authoritarian, you're a parasite
It's like total opposite-day or something. Like this is a complete inversion between you and me.

It's just slavery. If you're talking about taking govt out of the education system altogether, which I assume is your POV, then you're just basically talking about selling our children into slavery, and I'm quite certain you know that, even as you tell me IM an "authoritarian" because everything is 100% backwards with you people

it's the most communist country in existence.

Most countries that built up a lot of wealth in this age, adopted the leftist model of society.

Tax rebate is socialism now

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>Anarchism is certainly not authoritarian though.
Left wing anarchism is.
Using violence against people for saving resources is authoritarian as fuck you retard.
>WTF man. You people can't even be real
How have you not learned the lesson of democracy? It's simply mob rule.
How can you call yourself a libertarian and support democracy?

>So you are an authoritarian and you see the state as your protector against the "scary poor people".
lmao what?
It's called self defense. I should be allowed to protect myself against those who would use violence against me or steal my shit.
To prevent this is authoritarian.
>You run to use the state's monopoly on violence to protect your little "private" empire
Uhhh yeah if they're offering to protect me from authoritarians then why not use their services?
>there are no laws against theft
yes there are lmao
there is just competing law services
>and the private security firm would have its best interest be just to steal your shit and leave you high and dry.
but they want to make money
>Somehow this thought never occurs to anarcho capitalists
yeah dude we just NEEEVVER thought about that and haven't written endless books on it
>"Not wanting to use violence to protect stuff for the rich is violence"
What the fuck is wrong with being rich? You people aren't libertarian at all. You're just thieves. In a Libertarian society why is it illegal to generate wealth and become rich?

>It's just slavery.
holy shit you're fucking stupid
Hiring a private tutor is literally SLAVERY now?
Are you fucking insane?

NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, STALIN, HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

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I'd like to add that communism obviously collapsed nearly everywhere and is treated as a joke by most of the world at this point.
Yes, you will NEVER get your way lol