A common thread I see on here is claiming Jesus was a Jew and therefore Christianity is kiked and incompatible with Europeans/western culture. Id like to debate the historicity of the claim Jesus was a jew. I think this is important for the identification with Christianity to the people of Europe regarding whether Christianity is "European" and the importance this has for the political and cultural future of Europeans around the world. Its clear now more than ever, Western civilization needs something to bind it together. Like Aristotle said, a civilization needs Philia, and his view is that multi-ethnic societies inherently lack philia. To a degree thats true, but the one binding agent the US had since its formation was Christianity, holding together a variety of different nationalities and cultures. Now Christianity is on the decline but I see it as the one potential source of philia that could bind the whites, blacks, hispanics and asians of the US together into a cohesive society that once again has Philia, the "profound flesh and blood fraternity of citizens". A divided nation where races/ethnicities can be played against each other is the environment that despots and demagogues to divide and rule, with the Jews playing the role as they so often do throughout history as the elites eager helpers and agents.
Jesus and the political future of European Peoples
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So my thesis is, Jesus was an Israelite, but not a Jew. Most jews lived in Judea, north of Judea was Samaria not populated by Jews but the descendants of the 10 tribes, this is where the Samaritans lived, these were relatives of the Sarmatians, or Indo Europeans who established cities in northern Israel from the time of the Hyksos (Invading indo europeans). Samaria was the Capital of Northern Israel, the 10 tribes, not Jews, Israelites. You might notice another city, Sychar named after the Scythians, another Indo European tribe that were neighbors to the Sarmatians and would later combine into a single tribe.
Now even further north of Samaria, in the furthest north part of the northern king of the 10 tribes of Israel is were Galilee is, this is the location of Nazareth which is where Jesus was from. This certainly means he was an Israelite, related to one of the 10 northern tribes likely related to the Indo European Hyksos people, most had been expelled by Assyria but some communities remained.
Here is a quick history lesson to explain a bit more in detail. The Canaanites/Baal worshippers, the ancestors of the Jews took over the northern kingdom of Egypt establishing the 14th Dynasty.
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The Canaanites took power through deceit, not war as a Canaanite Vizier (advisor) to the Pharaoh allowed for open boarders policy to allow for all the Canaanites to migrate to the rich lands of the Nile Delta, their population grew large and demographically begun replacing the Egyptians, particularly among the merchant/bureaucratic classes. The Canaanite Vizier likely ended up killing the Pharaoh or assuming control after the Pharaoh died and became the Pharaoh to establish the 14th Dynasty, this is who the biblical Joseph of the Bible stories. They changed the Egyptian capital to a new city they constructed for trade, called Avaris (yes literally named it Greed)
The Canaanite Dynasty did not last long as Invading indo european tribes conquered all the way down from the black sea to the Nile delta and conquered the entire region with advanced military technology. Recurve bows, chariots, horses, bronze scale armor and weapons, the Egyptians under Canaanite rule were conquered easily and the Hyksos warrior elite ruled Egypt for centuries. This is the 15th Dynasty
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Now the Hyksos and Canaanites were both expelled by the Theban Egyptians of the southern nile kicked out the invading foreigners (though by this time the Indo European Hyksos had likely intermarried with the Egyptian royal family numerous times in attempts to unify the kingdom). So after this the bulk of Canaanites and Indo europeans were expelled, beyond a few of their elite who remained as part of the Egyptian Royal family.
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Now the 18th dynasty is the Dynasty of the New Kingdom and the setting for the Moses story.
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This is when all foreign peoples were expelled into the Levant. Now there is no evidence ever of a unified Israel. But the expelled peoples separated into two groups, the Southern Canaanites returning to their original land, and this became Judea and the northern Hyksos/Indo european peoples which became the northern kindgdom of Israel, though it was really a loose alliance of tribes neither really being a unified kingdom and being ethnically different though sharing some shared culture from their time in Egypt(likely devotees of the cult of Aten)
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These two groups basically warred continuously with each other until the Assyrians conquered the 10 tribes in the north, defeated them and expelled the bulk of them to where their people came from originally, the Armenian highlands, from their they migrated north and west into europe assimilating into the other Indo European tribes they had split from centuries earlier.
The southern Judea lasted longer until being conquered by Babylon. Then the persians conquered babylon and freed the Canaanites. During the Canaanite captivity in babylon, they appeared to have Synthesized Canaanite traditions and Babylonian Myth into the a new religion, the Torah. The persians, seeking to unify the chaotic Levant and assimilate it into their empire released these new people, the Canaanite babylonian Jews and helped return them to Judea and rebuild their cities, with the Persian coin, all while helping them evangelize a new myth to unify all the disparate tribes of the Levant under a single religion, easily controlled by the persians and sharing at least some similarities to Zoroastrianism, the state religion of the Persians.
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This makes the /r/tranneists seethe so hard they make seemingly 'pro' Christian threads only to flood them with discord trannies spamming again and again their degenerate atheists beliefs.
But it doesn't stop there, no, it gets worse.
These tranners also purposely derail the thread with LARPagan propaganda blackmailing you into thinking being LARPagan is being pro-white.
You thought they were finished? Not a chance!
They end up posting satanic imagery, revealing their true colors all along.
It's a worldwide plot to legitimize their pedophiliac-sacrificial cult.
Do not be deceived by these useful idiots, Yas Forums
Believe in the Lord and praise his name.
"Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that the family of believers throughout the world is undergoing the same kind of sufferings." - Peter 5:8-9
In the armenian highlands, the expelled 10 tribes assimilated into the indo european tribes of the peoples they had been separated from for some centuries quite easily and moved with them in their migrations. The migrations of the expelled 10 tribes from the armenian highlands into europe occurred in multiple waves. The first being the Dannoi/Daranio/Dardanians who traveled west into anatolia to settle on the west coast of Anatolia. These were the Trojans and ancestors to the Romans according the Homer and Roman historians.
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The next wave was the Cimmerians traveling west along the black sea into the baltics. The next being the Scythian migrations which occurred in multiple waves climaxing during the migration period of 300-600AD all across europe.
So you use the United States if weimerica as your shining example of Christianity working? The most degenerate state is history? The one that works to destroy every culture and nation for the sake of international capitalism?
America really is a perfect example of how Christianity is the perfect tool for creating good goyim for the jews
Try convincing any modern Christian or anyone raised Christian to abandon the Torah. It isn't going to happen. The kikery runs too deep.
Look at how nu-Christian resergents treat the Schofield Bible. The founders of the only country to ever have actual "Christian values" like a lack of slavery or not murdering people who don't believe the way you do, the values that spread across the West like wildfire as soon as people had even one nation that defended them, hand-edited all the kike mythology and Torah references out in an age before digital word processing, and now it's "too depressing" or gets responses like "so my Meemaw isn't in Jewish Heaven?"
So this taken as a whole I think makes the argument well that Jesus was a Samaritan, one of the remaining left behind members of the 10 tribes of Israel who remained in Samaria where they resettled after being expelled from Egypt (Jews and Judea were never part of Israel). The lost sheep/flock Jesus mentions is the 10 tribes who travelled with the Indo European migrations west into europe making the Europeans the clear target for Jesus. This plays out factually in history as the Europeans quickly converted to Christianity and inherited the promise and covenant of Abraham, that they would go on to become a plentiful people overflowing their boarders and spreading around the world (clearly fulfilled by europeans not Jews) and go on to produce many kings (also fulfilled by Europeans and not Jews.
Your thesis is wrong, cause if you actual read the bible jesus tells a gentile woman who wants to follow Jesus that the only way she can is if she acts like a dog. He says this because she is a gentile and because he is a Jew who learned from his rabbinical teachers that the farthest a gentile can go in following Yahweh is to accept being an inferior dog to the Jewish masters.
Judaism is a supremacist ideology, the German Nuremberg laws were based off of Orthodox Judaism laws on who is and isn’t a Jew.
>So you use the United States if weimerica as your shining example of Christianity working?
Modern US is not a christian nation. Since the end of WW2 and particularly after the 60s, the US has become an atheist nation along with the rise of degeneracy. The last time the US was christian in any real sense was the 1950s
USA is not a Christian nation anymore, leaf.
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The old testament and Torah should be viewed for what it is. Sumerian myth, Canaanite stories and historical fiction, likely with kernels of truth but by and large fictitious exaggerations. Modern christianity would be greatly enhanced using ONLY the new testament as its scripture with the old testament being merely a historical reference book of myth/legend.
Thanks for the bumps friend. Just remember with Christianity your country would have become Muslim a thousand years earlier. Looks like all it did was delay the inevitable though.
>NO JESUS WAS A JEW
>TALKING ABOUT THAT ON POL IS DUMB
pffft
>Modern christianity would be greatly enhanced using ONLY the new testament as its scripture with the old testament being merely a historical reference book of myth/legend.
No, faggot, just go with Jeffersons'. Jew ideas about the afterlife are superfluous if you even believe that what Christus said was the lessons of the Most High.
God the level cucks go to when trying to unJew Christianity. Jesus followed the traditional jewish values and there is no such thing as a good Jew or ‘israelite’ faggots you all deserve the bullet.
United States has always been degenerate. You prefer revolution to stability. Just like the French democratic revolutionaries you enter civil war and slaughter your own countrymen. United States has no culture, no race, no nation, it is the proponent of liberalism around the world and if they had their way the whole world would be one big freedom loving capitalist state with McDonald’s everywhere
>Just remember with Christianity your country would have become Muslim a thousand years earlier.
charles martel refused to help spain and eastern france fight off the muslims and let the lands be pillaged and invaded
the reconquista recieved no help from the christians
had the roman empire still been around and not destroyed by christians islam wouldnt exist
and even if rome was still gone whoever ruled france would still have fought off the invaders
you can stop lying now
but you wont because you re a maniac cultist and thats 100% of what your lives revolves around
>jesus tells a gentile woman who wants to follow Jesus that the only way she can is if she acts like a dog.
Can you reference this for me so I can see if your interpretation is correct?
>Judaism is a supremacist ideology
Agreed, I think to move forward Christianity needs to cut out the old testament and become strictly a new testament based faith. Where the old testament is relegated to purely a reference text of myths and legends but a totally separate faith.
Muh lady
>Jesus followed the traditional jewish values
Is that why the Pharisees expelled him and went to great lengths to have him killed? Do you really think the teachings of Jesus are compatible with an animal sacrifice cult that was Temple Judaism?
I can find it
As for the second point, if your enemy is supremacist (believes them to be the best) that doesnt mean that you have to give up your position and be a Christian and say “we are all equal under Christ” every human can go heaven etc etc. It’s better for everyone to recognize that each race thinks they’re the best. That’s why the nazis didn’t Holocaust the Jews they made deals with them to be transported to Israel. Because had Nazi germany won they probably would have had Zionist jew allies in Israel or Madagascar.
Christianity is the forefather of liberalism because you cannot have liberalism and the ideals of freedom without the presumption that all humans are created equal. And the only way we can say all humans are created equal is if you have some Christian thought that tells you that. Because everywhere else in nature we see that all humans are created unequal to each other.
>everyone who’s knows that Jesus was a Jew must be an atheist
Just kys
>United States has always been degenerate. You prefer revolution to stability. Just like the French democratic revolutionaries you enter civil war and slaughter your own countrymen.
You're ignorant of US history and the civil war. Since the very founding of the US it was been a constant war of Americans vs the european banking cartel, it ebbed and flowed until 1913 and even then the central bankers didnt have much power until a cycle of bust and boom to push up the national debt, this was why these bankers caused the depression and later WW2, among one of numerous reasons was to secure their hold on the US. The US currently is captured by these forces who have gone to great lengths to suppress degrade and destroy the influence and power of Christianity in the US
And Jesus went away from there and withdrew to the district of Tyre and Sidon. And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and was crying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely oppressed by a demon.” But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, “Send her away, for she is crying out after us.” He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” And he answered, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” She said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.” Then Jesus answered her, “O woman, great is your faith! Be it done for you as you desire.”And her daughter was healed instantly.
Matthew 15:21–28
>had the roman empire still been around and not destroyed by christians islam wouldnt exist
Yes and you could be a eunuch castratii in Byzantium, how great would that be.
>a eunuch castratii in Byzantium
another of the long list of insane semitic christian atrocities they commited in europe
reminder that christian castrated boys to make them sing for them until not even 50 years ago
And yet he’d probably still have more balls than the average modern day christstain
Would some user care to fill me in on the "Christianity is a Jewish lie" argument, or is it as simple as "Jews said Christ was raised, Jews lie and subvert, so Christianity was a lie to subvert"? I remember a WLP quote like that somewhere.
The early Christian scholars were one of the few forces keeping Jews in check for centuries. It wasnt until the son of a crypto jew converso banker, Jacob Cohen (John Calvin) split the church that you saw a true resurgence of the Jewish subversion
I think the Romans were doing quite alright as it was
there is no such thing as a "christian scholar"
ALL early christians were jews
jews had NO power before an emperor became christian, christians gave the jews ALL OF THE POWER THEY HAVE TODAY
so, when will you stop lying?
nah man titus and hadrian were practically doing the jew's bidding, thankfully christians came !
I cant eve find a single roman who spoke ill of a the jews before christianity! they dont exist!
The Romans also can talk about Jews as a nation, as a race. The christians ignore this now and can only talk about Jews as members of a religion, and this applies to blacks and all other minorities too. Christianity is simply not an objective way of understanding the world and our place in it.
>Matthew 15:21–28
So he tells this Canaanite woman he was not sent for her but only for the house of Israel? Canaanites being proto Jews. The people who gave their children to Moloch and worshipped Baal...
Jesus did not call her a dog, she compared herself to a dog and Jesus healed her daughter. Your original quotation seemed to have twisted the wording and interpretation of this.
>another of the long list of insane semitic christian atrocities they commited in europe
I agree the Catholic church as a whole was a complete bastardization of christianity and a way for the Roman elite to corrupt and twist the religion to their purposes. Do you really think the medieval catholic church was the goal of Jesus's teachings? That Jesus would have been pleased by what the black nobility did to Christianity?
>I think the Romans were doing quite alright as it was
Romans were worse than your criticism of the US. Complete slaves to their merchant class of plutocrats, constant state of war to make their oligarchs richer, highly stratified society with a culture built on slavery, human sacrifice and mass murder that tortured and murdered and raped as accepted entertainment. The Roman empire was incredibly degenerate.
>Canaanite
she is greek but whatever
later she is talked about again and revcealed to be greek, and caniite doesnt appear in the original text
anyways in both cases yeshua would still consider her a dirty goy, lower than a dog and not worthy of his blessing (unless she demeaned herself enough accepted her position as a dirty goy slave of him)
“It is not right to throw the children’s bread to the dogs”
Canaanites we’re probably indo Europeans. Maybe they did some fucked up shit at one point in history, doesn’t make it any less truthful that canaanites we’re probably more like me than Jesus or any Jew. To me to read an indo european degrade herself to the point of calling herself an animal is just disgusting and if it doesn’t disgust you too I don’t get it. I’d rather be the master of my own religious table then eat Jewish religious scraps
>ALL early christians were jews
Wrong. Most were Greek/Roman. Alexandria became a hub for christians because of all the greek converts.
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This board realized long ago that the cohesion of religion and state is key to the sustainability of decency and morality in our society.
That is WHY we have these threads almost daily. They believe they can manipulate us into thinking being Christian is anti-white when it was Christianity what made possible for us to have nation states in the first place.
Do not be deceived by these useful idiots, Yas Forums
Believe in the Lord and praise his name.
"Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" - Matthew 5:10-12
Just ignore these morons. Don't bother arguing with them. Otherwise you're actually feeding their bullshit, when truth fends for itself here.
You are a cringe faggot
>Jewish lies
Read a modern (non Christian) historian on Ancient Rome. Did you know that christians being thrown into the colosseum probably only happened once? Christians turned the collosseum story into the ancient version of the holohaux, they basically kept talking about it and painting themselves as the victim, then a couple years later they will start taking people and stretching them limb from limb for practicing their ancient pagan faith.
Also collosseum games were more like festivals held once a year or at very special events and most of the human fights were for show and most were hunting animals.
kek, the richest man in the roman empire was a jew
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The roman hero general who was second in command to Titus was a crypto jew. Titus was allied with the jewish elite. The jews played the same game they played then than they did in WW2 playing two factions of jews off each other to create the conflict they wanted.
>she is greek but whatever
No shes not, it explicity identifies her as Canaanite, thats the entire point of the story, that even a people the bible rails against as one of the most evil groups, the Canaanites, Jesus would heal.
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And your a retard who can’t make an argument
>Canaanites we’re probably indo Europeans
LOL Canaanites trace their time in the levant back to the original city dwellers of Jericho. They were Semites, this is proven technologically, artistically, genetically and linguistically. The primary identifier of an indo european people is their language and Canaanites spoke a completely different language without an indo european source.
I think it’s the saddest part of human history. Reading the historians talk about watching christians tear down their civilization bit by bit.
>Christians turned the collosseum story into the ancient version of the holohaux, they basically kept talking about it and painting themselves as the victim, then a couple years later they will start taking people and stretching them limb from limb for practicing their ancient pagan faith.
I mean christians at the time were all racial jews, do you really accuse racially jewish followers of yeshua of such a thing? that sounds just so... unlike them!
>The roman hero general who was second in command to Titus was a crypto jew. Titus was allied with the jewish elite. The jews played the same game they played then than they did in WW2 playing two factions of jews off each other to create the conflict they wanted.
right sounds pretty legit
>make romans destroy judea and slaughter 500k jews
>???
>profit
>Reading the historians talk about watching christians tear down their civilization bit by bit.
nah they would never do such a thing
>Read a modern (non Christian) historian
Provide me some sources and I will
impossible!
inconcievable!
lets be real christians basically invented civilisation, we were all having gay orchies in mud huts before christians came
europe would be africa without yeshua bar yosef and saul of tarsus!
anyways, nazis had the right idea, throw all the christjews into camps
>>make romans destroy judea and slaughter 500k jews
Yes. There is numerous Rabbinic sources saying antisemitism is the forge that makes the jewish race better. The jewish elite have always been feeding the persecution of jews as a way of eugenically improving the jewish race by killing those unnable to survive the crucible of persecution through guile and craft. This is why the Warburgs and Oppenheimers supported and funded Hitler, the jewish elite intentionally caused the Holocaust to further eliminate the jewish lower class while creating a Hegelian dialectic of synthesis from opposites in order to produce their goal, the state of Israel.
Even then the Jewish elite saw the future would be in Europe and drove the Jews into france where they became the Radhanites and dominated the silk road trade for a thousand years spreading to all the wealthiest cities in the world.
Kek I had one argument with an EMJ follower who when asked how Logos is Christian when it’s a Greek word and all the philosophy is from the Socratics said that Plato and Aristotle are honorary christians and will go to heaven because one Catholic priest said so a couple hundred years after Jesus died.