Imagine having 2 milions of Soviet soldiers who want to fight on your side in first few weeks of 41 Germany vs ZSRR war...

imagine having 2 milions of Soviet soldiers who want to fight on your side in first few weeks of 41 Germany vs ZSRR war and don't use them.
Imagine having Andrey Vlasov,the man who can lead all these former soviet soldiers and don't use him till late 1944.
This is the reason why Hitler lost, he could defeat Russia with Russians, and you cannot deny me

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Lmao vlasov is commie jew and also traitor. Germs came to us to genocide us and steal all our land

To bad Hitler never got around to holocausting those kikes for real.

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Nah Russians are useless in war. They lack any discipline. They won because they had superior numbers and superior technology (yes, it was actually the opposite of the common stereotype). We on the other hand had braver, more disciplined soldiers, better tactics and everything else.

But greater numbers would nonethless have helped. You could have plugged them in where the Italians and Romanians were . . .

It's neo-nazi propaganda you retard. Russians don't really fight for their enemies, ever.

You lost your country to bolsheviks, who killed more Russians than the nazis ever did.

The nazis killed more germans than the bolsheviks could and wanted to kill more.

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It's not.
There were millions of Russians and other Slavs willing to fight against the Bolshevik regime. But Nazi-policies treated them like dirt, much to the dismay of cleverer heads in German government and military.

You're making that shit up. The germans were more than willing to take up slavs and all kinds of other soldiers, especially when the war went to shit, they just didn't get any participation for obvious reasons.

You make a good point. You forget, however, that Hitler was a slave to his own ideology. Had he been pragmatic, yes Ukraine could have provided a handy man power reserve, that likely would have performed better in combat than some of the satellite armies that Germany took east with them.

You're angry because you're ignorant.
They did take up Russians (and other Slavs), a fact which is not in dispute here. But they could have taken up a whole lot more if they hadn't brutalised and alienated the populations that were largely anti-Bolshevik.

The Ukranians were mistreated by the germans, sure, but you also miss the part where that was absolutely necessary. The germans had to seize the food supply of the ukranians or else germany itself would go into starvation mode. Hitler was a retard, but he above all, a puppet.

I'm not angry. The mistreatment of the slavs was an essential part of german war strategy, they were literally ordered to "live off the land." There was never a scenario where russians or ukranians or poles would be on their side, it was always a war they were gonna lose.

Literal bullshit that even the kikes admit they fabricated.

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Generalplan ost never existed, but german war policies towards slavs were enough. If a foreign invader comes to your country and tries to terrorize your population, takes all their food and rapes your women you're not gonna side with them, ever, unless you are a literal cuckold, which I suspect you are.

>if a foreign invader comes to your country and tries to terrorize your population, takes all their food and rapes your women
based Red Army during civil war

>The mistreatment of the slavs was an essential part of german war strategy
Indeed. And a very poor strategy it was too. It tied down German soldiers in anti-partisan activity. Of course partisans would have been a factor anyway, but it was made immeasurably worse by German policy.
>There was never a scenario where russians or ukranians or poles would be on their side
A reasonable number would have been. (Not Poles, probably, as they were not under the Soviets, but other Slavs) There was a great deal of anti-bolshevik feeling.
>it was always a war they were gonna lose.
Highly likely, yes. Goering did his best to talk Hitler out of it. To no avail.

Red army wasn't really foreign, it was led by foreign cosmopolitan jews, but the people fighting were natives.

cope moar
you lost, shitter, who the fuck cares how it happened, that's war mate

>Germs came to us to genocide us and steal all our land
literal retard, but what can we expect from a fucking ruskie

you think you deserve anything else?

Hitler said numerous times that he has nothing against Russias many ethnicities, including Russians. His enemy is 100% communism. Let's not forget the Soviet Bavarian republic. Yes that was a fucking thing.

Also the "subhuman" thing wasn't as widespread as you think. Yes that infamous SS pamphlet titled "Der Untermensch" existed. What was depicted there? Filthy, badly maintained living quarters and brutal, subhuman communist leaders. What, did Russia not have brutal, subhuman commie officers? Stalin killed millions so that part of "subhuman" is certainly true. It wasn't "All Slavs are subhuman due to their DNA blabla". It was more like "This nation has these barbaric bolsheviks and they behave like subhumans." And yeah anti-partisan retaliation certainly existed. Peace is peace and war is war. Don't be fucking terrorists. Even soldiers have families and they aren't in your territory because they want to. Hitler even said many times that he feels compassion for the Russian nation to have fallen to evil zionists. Don't fall for Jewish propaganda.

So it is ok if your own people terrorize your land and not a cuckoldry at all but bad if it is did invaders

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>Let's not forget the Soviet Bavarian republic. Yes that was a fucking thing.
It was a thing where he was a propaganda liason and worked in it, retard. Hitler was a bolshevik before he became a zionist nazi. He was 100% controlled opposition all the way.

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horseshit
The hordes of asia are the enemy to the aryan just like the jew.

do you even know where that picture is from?

The Nazis were fucking spergs. Imagine if there was literally a country taken over by Yas Forumstards after we all get drafted into and lose WW3. Germany would have won the war if OKW had just dragged hitler out back and shot him, then ignored ideology and did whatever it took to get the recently liberated soviets on board.
>Lmao vlasov is commie jew
Vlasov was based and not a kike
>also traitor.
>implying that betraying the commies is bad
it isn't
>Germs came to us to genocide us and steal all our land
Unfortunately, this is half true. Some wanted this, others (I would dare say, most of the normies) wanted to liberate you asiatic retards from your commie jew overlords.

Calm down edgelords.

Kurt Eisner's funeral in 1919, when Hitler was marching alongside his bolshevik comrades. No, he was not spying for the reichswehr, that came later. He was captured and ratted out his communist compadres and was made into a mole.

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For anyone still on the fence about if the holocaust was real or not. This will settle it once and for all. The best documentary there is.

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Hitler was an idiot, we know that.

>Vlasov was based and not a kike
He was commie from the start and fight against white during cw. based and redpilled "not a kike" chad

kys
you euroshits are our eternal enemies

all that matters is jews = good

Vlasov was worse than any ideology, he was a coward above all. Solzhenitsyn was also a coward.

I prefer pogroms

I am aware that Nazism was a broad church, so to speak, and there were Nazis favourable to Slavs (Rosenberg, for instance, if I remember correctly) and that there were all sorts of attitudes and ideas about them, but stop with this silly claim of Jewish propaganda. Drang nach Osten and Lebensraum did not originate with Hitler, but had been part of his thinking since the 1920s. Did you think it meant peaceful co-existence with the invaded natives? To put it mildly: don't be naive. Besides the ideology, we have the mass of evidence of hostile policy.

No, He had an ideology. He was a nationalist, but far-left and called Russia "a prison of nations". Commie with russian flag.

So pretty much he was nazbol

Communism calls for a global government so his criticism wouldn't be considered "far-left." Russia is a multicultural country, but Vlasov was also a coward who got captured by germans and gave in to their demands.

That’s why you started the war in the first place together with the Germans in the invasion of Poland? Brainlet

>No, He had an ideology. He was a nationalist, but far-left and called Russia "a prison of nations". Commie with russian flag.
So NazBol. Sounds pretty based, desu.

>If a foreign invader comes to your country and tries to terrorize your population, takes all their food and rapes your women you're not gonna side with them, ever
That’s what germany did to Poland. Why are you victimizing germs then?

Nothing based about it

No, it's not

>Hitler supposedly kills literally HALF the world jew population and takes their wealth etc.
>4.5+ million jews show up in America during the world war years
>millions more show up in newly created Israel (created based upon the holohoax) post-WW2
>more jews alive post-WW2 and today than ever before
>jews far more powerful post-WW2 and today than ever before
Makes one think.

Some jews died in WW2. Jews were held in camps in WW2. Jews starved in camps in WW2. Jews were not gassed by the millions. There were no 'death camps'. There were no masturbation death machines. There were no railway cars that went directly into ovens. There was no systematic effort to exterminate all jews by the Germans. There was no 6 gorillion. Jews in camps had typhus and camps were de-loused with Zyklon B just like people, ships, and warehouses were all over the world.

The Germans were blockaded and starving. Therefore there prisoners starved as well. The combination of typhus and starvation due to the blockade and 24/7 nationwide bombings cutting supply lines and crippling the nation resulted in a lot of prisoners dying. In order to decrease the rate of typhus infection the bodies of the dead were burned, just as the allies did when they captured the camps. The concentration camps and deaths of some jews (likely around 300,000) was real. The 'holocaust' is an event GREATLY exaggerated in order to increase jew political power and their ability to manipulate others to their benefit post-WW2. Thus, it should be labeled the 'holohoax'.

The full truth about jews and WW2:
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And if you went to poland with a swastika you would rightfully get your teeth knocked out. What's your point?

>Solzhenitsyn was also a coward.
Why do you think this? The dude wrote and published a 2000 page expose of the soviet penal system while living in Soviet Russia, while knowing there was a chance that he could have been shot for it. That's pretty fucking brave. If you are referring to his time in the camps as a camp stooge, you are partially right, but it seems that he pretty much felt disgusted by his own actions early in his imprisonment and gave up on it by the end.

Because you behave as if Germans are the victim and their actions towards others were justified

Why not? I've always been kind of Ok with the idea. I like Falangism better, but Strasserism/Nazbol sounds pretty based.
>no Jew corps
>no Jew internationalism
>economy for the people
I admit that it's probably inefficient for the same reasons that the soviet system was inefficient, but its not a cucked ideology by any means.

A point made by many Wehrmacht generals after the war with other Horseshit they spouted and the yanks believed. Fact is, Hitler and his crazies were never gonna arm the "Untermenschen" and have them help killing the Ussr. That went totally against their ideology. They came in 41 to exterminate the slav and came pretty far even though the deck was stacked against them in every concievable way.

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He was cowardly during ww2. His conduct after that was obviously downright treasonous. He knew he was not gonna get shot over a letter deriding Stalin.

Let's forget the Einsatzgruppen, the brutal partisan war and the pillaging of the conquered territories for supplies because the Leadership around Hidler were logistical brainlets. Face nigger, there was no way in hell the nazis would have actually armed and used large bulks of former soviet soldiers against Stalin.

Hilter the virgin versus chad Stalin.
the outcome was inevitable

all those foreign cosmopolitan jews like Stalin, Molotov, Zhukov, Konev, Vasilevsky, Bagramyan, Vatutin, Timoshenko

based.

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That decree has to do with destroying supply lines so the allies can't make use of them, has nothing to do with killing anyone. Can you even read?

>destroying infrastructure won't have any impact on the civilian population

True but don't expect the mutts on Yas Forums to understand.

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Stalin was shorter than even fucking Hitler you god damn retard.

WW2 was the war of manlets.

I saying only about russian nazbols and they are fucking disgusting - accept lenin and stalin ideas, collectivization etc.

Kurt Eisner was a social democrat. He established the People's State of Bavaria which was overthrown by Russian Bolshevik emigres (Eugen Levine) that later established the Bavarian Soviet Republic. Hitler himself was never a part of the Bolshevik faction, only the social democrats.

>Stalin
georgian. replaced jews in party to armenians (also known as mountain jews). B&R af.

Eisner was not a social democrat. Social democrats don't violently overthrow states lol. Eugen Livene had Hitler as his bodyguard btw.

> hurr durr, if the nazis wherent nazis they could have been winner