Just what’s wrong with high-fructose corn syrup anyway?

Corn is natural, so, by extension, its syrup should also be.

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Imagine being this retarded

Corn isn't natural anyway, it's all GMO to hell. Shit is not good for you

So is cyanide.

Hello monsanto rep

It's fine in moderation but it's in fucking everything.

Don't ask, they don't know. They attribute the problems with the chemical preservatives to the sweetener.

>muh natural
go eat cow shit. i heard it cures coronavirus.

Can someone redpill me hfcs?

Ever heard about corn vampires?

I got attacked by a scarecrow in a corn field.

Look at the fucking word. High... FRUCTOSE. No fiber to slow down digestion results in an immediate megadose of fructose into the liver. This is the obesity epidemic. Not fat. Not even glucose. It is fucking processed garbage that has fructose. Sucrose is also half fructose, avoid it.

remember when corn was just a plant selectively bred and not some abomination of genes from different species created in a lab.

yeah i dont either, it was before my time. millennials were raised on this shit and they turned out fine right

>corn
>natural
You're funny

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The problem lies in refinement.
This.

Based soi-addicted consumer.

it fucks up your stomachs response for fullness and is extremely bad you and its worse since its in many common food items you never realize how often you actually are ingesting it

>corn is natural
nigga you have never eaten non modified corn in your life get the fuck out of here

High fructose means it's more than the usual 50/50 split.
Fructose is only processed by the liver and turned directly into fat.
Fructose is quite clearly nature's way of fattening people up for the winter months.
So it is more fattening that regular sugar physiologically.

Wow when you put it like that you make an interesting point. On the other side of things Maple Syrup is natural, so, by extension, Maple Trees should be in every single food without labels.

It's almost exactly the same as table sugar. Table sugar is sucrose, which breaks down in the mouth into 50:50 glucose:fructose. "High fructose" corn syrup is 45:55. There are no metabolic consequences for this other than the fact that it is still a simple sugar.

>Corn is natural, so, by extension, its syrup should also be
By your logic:
>The coco plant is natural so is cocaine
>poppies are natural so is heroin
You are completely glossing over the 'high' in high-fructose. It refers to it being highly concentrated by mechanical and chemical means just as coke and heroin are.

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Nothing.
Fat fucks just blame their lack of self-control on the food producers.

Opium is natural.
What's wrong with IV heroin, user?!

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WRONG.
You are over working your liver relatively and it can only be turned into triglycerides.

>It's fine in moderation
even the smallest amount HFCS will fuck up your hunger hormones

Yeah well kim chi sucks.

Does regular sugar also do that?

read

if you have lots of time, watch this
>youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

That post doesn't say anything about hunger hormones.

insulin is the most important thing, but ghrelin(hunger hormone) also plays a part
this vid is better to understand how it works(watch this instead of the one I linked above)
>youtube.com/watch?v=zx-QrilOoSM

HFCS is 45:55 you stupid fucking nigger. The proportion is slmost exactly the same! More importantly, you can't accumulate fat as long as you don't overeat!

Little known fact ...
When sugar enters the stomach, small 'valve' opens to allow sugar direct access to bloodstream.
As blood sugar (glucose) only lasts 4 hours in the human body, and is one (of the two) needed fuels for EVERY muscle action (this is quad flexing, Lung/heart/eyelid function, etc.), sugar is a crucial food for human existence.
High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) does NOT bypass the stomach/liver processing and is treated by the body as just some more aftificial shit.
Its long term, wide introduction into the body is not very healthy.

frucotose can enter gylcolysis immediately and bypass one of regulation enzymes that controls it. So basically if makes you fat and fucks your sugar metabolism regulation

It makes you a gay ass faggot, along with palm tree oil and every onions.

I said "relatively." And I knew the ratio exactly.
It was a 100% true statement. You have little understanding of physiology so you think it doesn't matter.
It is more fattening that sugar.
>More importantly, you can't accumulate fat as long as you don't overeat
This is brainlet tier.
There are influences on WHY people tend to over eat.
You can even test them on rats. You feed rats a certain type of food and they'll ALL OVEREAT.
Why?
Because we are animals and it is instinct.
When food is stored as fat because of high insulin levels and from it having been turned directly into fat by the liver...
Then you body needs to eat more in order to sustain every day function.

This is actually the exact natural function of fructose. To raise blood insulin levels at the same time as creating free triglycerides that are ready for immediate storage.
Fruit fattens you for winter in this manner.
Brainlet on though.
I'm sure you are real genius with a lot to lose since you use racial slurs online and are super edgy.

My understanding is that to make high fructose corn syrup they heat treat the corn which makes it much sweeter. They are basically converting the starch into all kinds of weird unnatural sugars that would not otherwise exist.

>Plants are natural therefore crude oil is natural
>crude oil is natural therefore all reduced fossil fuels are natural

Venom is natural too

>Corn is natural, so, by extension, its syrup should also be.
>Uranium is natural, so, by extension, its radiation should be also - m. curie

It will fuck up your bodies ability to handle insulin. If you save enough bottle caps you will be able to pay for your dialysis treatments while you wait for new a new kidney to be grown in the lab.

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>Just what’s wrong with high-fructose corn syrup anyway?
Legitimately, nothing. Excess sugar consumption (whether it be cane, beet, or corn syrup) is the issue.

Corn is less sweet by volume than cane sugar, so they refine it more to make it more sugar dense so it tastes better

Still natural and healthy, but more calories per sweetness, so you get a calorie excess. If you work out a ton, no problem. If you sit at a desk all day, those calories turn to fat.

For some reason raw organic honey from most sources, which is basically pure fructose, does not have the same metabolic effect as HFCS or other processed fructose. Honey made from monocrop corn does though.

Yea, I have tried to figure this one out a few times.

Nothing wrong with it. Just don't guzzle karo syrup and you are good. Yeah it is an instant blood sugar spike but if used as a light sweetener that is fine.

>It is more fattening that sugar
Your body doesn't defy thermodynamics, dumbass
>There are influences on WHY people tend to over eat.
Yeah, namely whether or not you're a gluttonous retard. If you're a fucking rat, that's on you.

This level of coping with retardation.

>hfcs made in lab
>from GMO corn
>consuming spikes insulin and dopamine
>after short time feel tired from drop in excessively high insulin and dopamine
>repeat
It's like a drug, addictive and strains the body. Like all things it's fine in moderation. But it should generally be avoided

Not an argument, fatty

>There are influences on WHY people tend to over eat.
>You can even test them on rats. You feed rats a certain type of food and they'll ALL OVEREAT.
This is a different question/issue, you retarded nigger. Replace HFCS with cane sugar and you get the same result (tasty, addictive food) at a higher production cost. Biologically, however, it's a wash.

>When food is stored as fat because of high insulin levels and from it having been turned directly into fat by the liver...
But this guy is right. Don't overeat (calorie surplus), ESPECIALLY not any sugars or easily digested carbs, and you won't store the excess calories as fat. Your body will be accessing glycogen storage (via body fat) vs digested sugars freely available as blood glucose.

Its designed to make you secrete more hunger hormones so you keep eating. Also is fucking plastic.

I'm not fat.
In college I added about 20, but then I did a bunch of studying on physiology and learned what tends to cause people to over eat and got entirely ripped.
Now I'm just a little paunch family man, no point to be any thinner.

You did not make any arguments by the way. I actually long form typed out an explanation of how things work.
You are just dealing with teenage angst and are insulting people.
>Biologically, however, it's a wash.
Not at all. They are different things. Are you telling me DIFFERENT THINGS have the exact same effect?

This has been proven wrong 1,000 times besides it's obvious logical problem. If you feed rats HFCS they overeat compared to eating a normal 50/50 mix.
It's been shown in labs for decades over and over.
Why?
>But this guy is right.
No, he's a brainlet.
It's is OBVIOUS as fuck that calories in and calories out from a weight perspective is true.
But it doesn't explain why people on certain diets lose weight and on others gain weight.
Certain foods cause people to over eat.
Certain foods spike insulin more, storing more as fat, increasing the need for readily available calories.

I am talking nuanced and next level thinking.
If you eat 500 calories of only sugar, you'll still be hungry pretty soon and want to eat more because it's not nutritive.
If you eat 500 calories of fruits and veggies you will last a lot longer.

This is an extreme, but it shows that it's not just amount of calories you eat. You are battling human survival mechanisms that are deeply ingrained in the mind, brain, and body.
It's brainlet tier to tell someone calories in/calories out.

Fucking what? Do you understand the difference between selective breeding and genetic modification?

>You did not make any arguments by the way.
Yes I did. YOU decide how much you eat, not the content of what you eat. Humans are not fucking rats.

Ergotamine is natural too. But that doesn’t mean LSD is.

hey

so me a favor and actually kill yourself.

This is worse than chink flu by orders of magnitude.

>YOU decide how much you eat
'YOU' consist of the mind and body
the body regulates how much one should eat, and the mind can only try to control this to an extent

Did you know that when you eat something it isn't burned up for energy like fuel in a generator? Not everything we eat is digested in the same way and some things we eat are not even used for energy at all. Calories in/out is a retarded reductionist argument that ignores the complexity of human physiology.

bump

The B2 strain was created through selective breeding in my state. They also used crossbreeding which isn't complicated I have done it myself with different breeds. Thats the one in all fields now. Why do people have this picture in their head of some scientist in a lab splicing different genes together in a corn plant.
Basically.

this. it's a frankenstein of shit that your body cannot break down. that's why everyone is a fat ass.

lmao you are a retard
The other guys took care of you so I'll lay off.

It is not natural for humans to eat that much sugar.
Natural diet is: proteins, fats, carbs, fiber. Not sugar.

Why don't you go smoke some crack

It's just coco leaves bruh

uranium is natural
chernobyl was just a giant organic feast ! :DDDD

Normal sugars can be processed by any cell in the body.. however fructose, and especially high fructose corn syrup can only be broken down in the liver. The process in the liver creates blood cholesterol, it doesnt come from dietary cholesterol at all. Additionally HFCS doesnt activate the satiety circuit, and therefore doesnt satisfy your hunger. Oh and it for sure causes diabetes, if you plot a graph with # of cases of diabetes vs usage of HFCS in commercial products you'd see both curves in almost lockstep with one another.
Basically it's a slow acting poison and you shouldn't consume it.