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>卐 - DISMANTLE ZOG
>But what really is National Socialism?
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Swastika is cringe. It’s time to abandon it. The black sun is the future
the sonnenrad is a mighty fine symbol indeed, but it doesnt really feature or show the main purpose of our movement, its leaked into the nazi occult research. It hasnt been used for that purpose since but thats what the orginal symbol was, the highest esoteric group of the ss who dabbled in occult magic and rituals. The swastika means life and prosperity, this is what we fight for.
Sure, but the swastika is tainted as shit. Nobody will ever go along with it. That’s part of what makes these threads a LARP. We have to completely disassociate with symbols that normies immediately associate with evil. There’s no way around it. (((They))) want us to use the swastika, praise Hitler openly, and say “fuck niggers.” This is how they discredit our ideas.
the soonenrad has obtained mass knowledge to normies ever since brenton tarrant wielded it into royal combat, i dont find it as larping nazis really, nazi is just short for national-sozial (natsoc in german), hitlers party was the founder of the ideology so thats why its still an important symbol, and yes true its hard to redpill normies into our cause when they see a big ass swastika and get scared away immediately, and not everyone who is a ethno nationalist is a socialist, so itd be simpler if we used the bolt and circle like oswald mosley in the british union of fascists, or the fasces symbol the romans used, a time will come when people realize theyve been brainwashed by western zog to automatically mkultra chimp out when the see a two weird shapes interlinked surrounded in red, we can adapt to the old symbolism
It's no longer tainted once you're red pilled. It's holy. The display of it inspires the fascination of it. That's why it's censored. We don't need a new symbol.
Tarrant adds a layer of mystique that appeals to a younger and angry crowd. That’s the group that is needed. The black sun, fashwave, etc appeals. The other things are certainly an option as well, but this is the direction natsoc is headed. The 8ch community that is now dispersed really embodies the future of natsoc. I’m not saying what tarrant did was right, but those are the circles that actually have the intellectual capacity to figure out a way forward.
Maybe, but it needs to be shed from the movement yesterday. These threads are dead end LARPs and it’s in part due to the usage of the swastika
indeed, action is necessary, i personally believe tarrant was right (i know by writing this i have just enrolled in a fbi watchlist), it wasnt a blant out white supremacist attack, people that looked into it no matter how normie they are got redpilled as shit on how main media is just shills, clearly in his manifesto he didnt believe in race supremacy and he had zero hate for jewish who stayed in their own country, he even denounced nazism he wasnt keen on the socialist economic part, while stating that he personally thought it was a dead ideology, what he did was heroic, it hit the muslim community hard on not to fuck around, just a message saying no matter how much our shit globalist elite controlled governments are on letting you do freely as you please, there will always be a man to step up, they kill our children, we unite and kill 50 of them till the message is spread across the world and more revolutionaries stand up such as john earnest by burning their places of worship to the ground, who ever calls men who act larpers are ignorant, thinking starting threads is all that is needed.
>Socialism
I think I'll pass.
its not Marxist socialism
What's the difference? Nationalizing the means of production leads to lower efficiency, this has been consistently proved in many places.
they didn't nationalize stuff in fact they used privatization in fact they popularized the word
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Ok, why then call it 'socialism'? Because Hitler used that word a century ago to sell his party to the left-leaning German workers?
because its more like third way economics
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because it introduced social programs, such as government payment to have children is the best example, socialism only means redistribution of wealth you can have a socialist country that runs off of private markets, which is what is differnt from marx since he didnt believe in private property, it was just generally built on the premise that yes their were goverment controlled production but majority of it was private, but mainly were mom and pap shops they didnt want major private companies gaining alot of power their were legal limits
come on newfag read MK before posting here
and because "socialism" came from the prussian concept, which itself derived from the knightly orders that preceded prussia.
>social programs
Not the same as 'socialism'. Modern Europe has lots of social programs too. There's literally no reason to use this word today.
>>Not the same as 'socialism'. Modern Europe has lots of social programs too. There's literally no reason to use this word today.
nothing is 100% of an ideology, the united states is deemed a capitalist nation but has governmental programs such as the welfare state, socialism literally only means redistribution of wealth and government involvement, what marx was preaching is literally sugar coated communism, socialism has nothing to do with ridding of private property and full governmental control
many of hitlers ideas were radical for the time. just because it doesn't fit the marxist term that you prescribed to it and feel is the only source that can use the term doesn't mean it's invalid.
You shitheels are so embarrassing... I feel sorry for you.. Nazism doesn't work and always ends in failure, history has proven that. Get a fucking life.
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so how did it fail? it was the top economy in Europe and only stop existing because they lost a war
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Arnold Ehret a German in the 1920s figured out the ideal human diet that does not produce disease in the human body and was killed for it by big meat and dairy industry
>Socialism
fuck that shit.
I'm so tired of you kikes running both sides of the border.
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hi Chang how are you doing today
Thanks, but no, thanks. Only kikes profit from governments. The rest of us are obliged to pay the half of what we earn and to obey their asinine rules.
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as I said, kikes guard both sides of the border.
now try to argue the idea, not the surnames (every political movement is packed with kikes, most of all because others are ignored by the media)
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Read this . It's not socialist in the traditional sense, the name was merely adopted. Which, I understand creates confusion, but there would be some incentives, so technically we'd be considered very moderate socialists (to the point that the word has no meaning to us).
>Swastika is cringe
Debasing the swastika in public is cringe. Using the swastika for political traction is 2020 Zogmerica is cringe. But it's no less a sacred image today than it was in 1933. Do not spread wrong information.
Exactly. While a new symbol may be adopted, that doesn't mean the swastika doesn't have a meaning/hold power.
What's wrong with national capitalism?
Capitalism strangles the worker. Do you mean in the fascist sense?
You definitely have't seen how socialism can strangle worker. Good luck to you to sleep in the bed you're making.
As if go-t will take a better care of the workers than a person directly influenced by their well-being.
>A person influenced by their well being
Not really. You can still exploit workers a lot, through shitty work conditions and low pay, like you see in America today,
And what will stop your workers to change the employer? Good luck changing the country.
Or you promise us that good nat-soc go-t will tell those employers to behave or else!? Or what? How will you decide what pay is fair? Here we come to the same mistake ussr made: government clerks don't know shit, and the less they intervene the better it is for everybody.
They will promise you everything you want, it will not stop them from achieving their own goals, not yours.
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