U.S. Marine Corps Cuts Will Slash All Tanks, Many Heavy Weapons

Hmm I wonder what happened.

(news.usni.org/2020/03/23/new-marine-corps-cuts-will-slash-all-tanks-many-heavy-weapons-as-focus-shifts-to-lighter-littoral-forces)

>The Marine Corps will soon lay out its path to achieve a 2030 force optimized for conflict with China in the littorals – a force that will completely divest of its tanks and slash most of its artillery cannon battalions, instead focusing on developing light mobility options to get around island chains with the assistance of unmanned systems and mobile anti-ship missiles.

The service has been working on this new vision since Commandant of the Marine Corps Gen. David Berger took command last summer, and Berger is likely to release the full plan soon.

>“The Marine Corps is not optimized to meet the demands of the National Defense Strategy. In the summer of 2019, the Marine Corps began force design activities focused on adapting capabilities to properly shape the Marine Corps’ contributions to naval warfare and the joint force. These planning efforts led to a modernized design which incorporates emerging technologies and significant changes in force structure to deliver a Marine Corps the nation needs by 2030,” Maj. Joshua Benson, a spokesman for the Marine Corps Combat Development Command, told USNI News in a statement.

The heaviest cuts, Benson said, come to aviation and heavy ground units.

>“By the year 2030, the Marine Corps will see complete divestments of Law Enforcement Battalions, Tank Battalions and associated Military Occupational Specialties (MOS), and all Bridging Companies. Additionally, the Corps will reduce the number of infantry battalions from 24 to 21; artillery cannon batteries from 21 to 5; amphibious vehicle companies from 6 to 4; and reduce tilt rotor, attack, and heavy lift squadrons,” he said.

The service will also trim its F-35B and C Joint Strike Fighter squadrons, reducing them from 16 Primary Aircraft Authorized (PAA) to 10 per squadron.

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(((Berger)))

Yes this is good, the Marines can't be trusted to drive heavy equipment. That's the Navy's job.

Marines are supposed to be attack dogs who hitchhike with the Navy. Not their own, independent, actual branch of the military.

This. Marines are shock troops. That’s it. They got scope creeped to hell after all the bullshit in the desert.

Marines only had one company of tanks. Waste of resources.

Saves money. Trash DNA deleted. Profit.

So the marine corps is doing marine corps things again? What's the fucking issue?

Marines can't tie their shoes how can they drive a tank?

Those F35 b and c cuts alone will cut trillions of useless builds and research. Thank god the Marines are getting smarter for once. We could have 5 times the amount of drones China has if they used the money for that sector instead.

The reality of new technology. When an off the shelf $1000 drone can kill a tank, its time to rethink things.

Clitoral forces lmao

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They're literally being turned into space marine infantry
Next battles are in space where artillery nor tanks are needed
Convenient

It’s so cute when chair force faggots speak. What the fuck are you taking about? The Marines have had tanks and artillery since the WW2. This actually has nothing to do with Iraq and GWOT

sounds litorally retarded.

>lighter litoral forces
lol I remember how that ended the last time

It is. They're cutting off so many of our jobs it's bullshit.

Great OP, 4+Yas Forums tier of quality.

Just like the romans

>trusted to drive the heavy equipment
>crashing entire ships at sea

>Yes this is good

Agree. USMC are agile, hard-chargers who hit-n-git, leaving a glorious mess behind.

>Marines can't be trusted to drive heavy equipment

Meh. Can't be arsed. That's what regular army is for - tank divisions and artillery, etc.

>That's the Navy's job

Nah. The squids are just a taxi service for Marines when they're not standing-off unloading ordnance nautical miles away from the front. Know yer role, swabbie.

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Tanks made sense for a war on the North European Plain when a war in Europe was a serious possibility. But the cold war ended 30 years ago.

Pretty sure Poland would love to buy those tanks though.

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>littorals
Boat Loads of rockets are better than Tank Loads...

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Our experience in Afghanistan made us buy more tanks just as we looked to get rid of them.
Direct fire support is comfy.

>The squids
kek

Good. The fucking gyrenes need to be running the brig aboard ship and eating crayons, can't be trusted for anything more.

the army is the cool military branch again for the first time since WWII

Good get rid of the all the overpriced tanks and get new ones that dont cost a mill+ each there is no reason to spend so much when you are shooting at people in third world country's.

So using them like more mobile artillery? That's interesting. In any case, at the speed the US are pulling their troops out, we won't be there for much longer.

Interstingly, the Pacific is the only place in recent years where the number of troops is slowy increasing.

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driving tanks is fucking easy you twat.
easier than tying shoelaces.

after topgun 2 us navy carrier wing will be the coolest branch again

Slant eyed people keep breaking the engines.

I would focus on cyborgs

They are not going to run into the stuff that is designed to fight, if the Marines actually island hop in a war against China.

Air superiority, sea supremacy and CAS will be provided by the Navy or even long range drones strikes.

And once everything bigger then a truck is dealt with, then the Marines land.

> lighter, clittoral forces

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->littoral
What does that mean?

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USMC MARINES...OOOORAAHHHHHHH RICKY RECON MARSOC FUCK SOCOM MOTHERFUCKERS BEGGING MARINES FOR THERE SPECIAL FORCES. THEY WENT OK WE'LL GIVE YA'LL RAIDERS AND NOT A COMPLAINT SINCE JARHEADS DOING THERE THING SINCE November 10, 1775 OLDER THEN THE USA

Island hopping.

>The United States Marine Corps
>sounds retarded
as it should be

They had 3 battalions of tanks. I think that's less than a single division in the army has in comparison

Mixed feelings on this desu
On the one hand the Marines need the fat trimmed a whole lot and retooling back toward some their actual naval infantry role is kind of nice
On the other hand I feel like they’ll be missing that armor if they have to retake Taiwan or something
But ever since Ukraine and the resumption of tensions with Russia war in Europe has become a much more distinct possibility
Not nearly as much as the Cold War but much higher than say ten years ago

decades of 200 dollar ieds wiping out 500k to 12 million dollar vehicles should have gave them a hint

The Nazis routed France in 1939 on France's home turf with Germany having fewer tanks and generally outgunned. Mobility wins the day.

i bet #4 sucks a mean cock

>The Nazis routed France in 1939 on France's home turf with Germany having fewer tanks and generally outgunned. Mobility wins the day.

>France

France has the most military victories in history
Don't worry bong you're #2

Fuck yeah shower shoe, these boots don't know about devil doggin hard chargin njp-in, gay chicken taken to far-in, crayon and strawberry dairy shake powder eat in, godawful NASCAR Oakley wear in, buyin a 2004 mustang at 18 percent interest, America's 9/11 force boat riding, teufelheunden, kinda force they got on their hands!

I mean, they've been overloading the Abrams platform for so long it's practically a superheavy tank by now. And it was supposed to be an innovation of armor and mobility.
Going back to the basics and restructuring doctrine sounds like a pretty good idea at this point.

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Israel doesn't need a middle eastern police force anymore.

You type like a fag and your shit's all retarded. Kill yourself.

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Big vehicles are just big targets. One soldier with a TOW can destroy a tank, unless there’s a big breakthrough in armor technology then tanks are useless nowadays.

nothing. the marines never get shit and thats the way they like it.

So in other words (((inflation caused by the federal reserve.)))

>gutting the US Military further so the Changs can Zerg rush us all to death when WWIII hits

Thanks Clinton, Bush, Obama, and now Trump

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YUUUTTTT

nothing wrong with liking the military

The big question is: will the US actually want to intervene?
I think this will be like when Russia took Crimea. Impose sanction and do nothing except for selling European countries military equipment.

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>Big vehicles are just big targets

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Seriously tho i love these things these and the Kettenkraftrad .

>there's fat.
>then there's army fat.

You're retarded. What's the flight time on a TOW? What's the kill probability? Are you in a wooded area? Power lines? Bodies of water? How long till that tanks wingman sends a HEAT round at you?

>NOOOOOO YOU CAN’T JUST TAKE AWAY OUR TANKARINOS
>NOT THE PRECIOUS HECKIN ABRAMS
>HOW THE FUCK ARE WE GONNA DIE FOR ISRAEL NOW?????

After the war started getting going a shit ton of dirt bags ate their way out of the military. They changed the discharge for being fat from med sep to OTH to curb that.

mom i said it again

Chinese suicide drone subs amigo.

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>selling European countries military equipment.
This was exactly the point. Obama and Putin made a deal.

Russia got:
>Crimea.
>free from floating Ukraine's debts (cheap gas subsidies, literal billions in aid).
>Oligarchs net worth (in USD) doubled overnight due to Ruble rate change, COL remained the same...

USA got:
>Defense contracts out the ass for securitizing imminent Russian threat.
>New bases in Romania, Bulgaria, Poland: WAY cheaper and closer to the mid-east than Germany.
>US Politicians absorb Ukrainian companies.

Good luck starting a war with the Chinkoids or Russia. M.A.D. is still a very real thing.