US death rate is 1%

flu is 0.01
covid is 0.1

i'm not a math guy but that is like 100x more deadly or something.

also the flu doesn't overrun hospitals and kill 30 year olds. so yeah that is why we are all a bit concerned about this shit. but thanks for posting user.

It’s far below 1%

You mean to say 0.01 and 0.03

that's what every intelligent person says: We musn't overwhelm the healthcare system. Spain and Italy have used all their capacities. After that, every case that needs oxygen dies.

Spread this it's really good on normies.

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Ah of course

This is why Americans will die.
Future generations, learn math.

Yeah, eat shit third worlder. Just because someone is wrong about a previous number does not mean that they do not know math. Not all given data is correct and with all of the bullshit fake news out there it can be easy to get confused. I passed physics with flying colors. Something I know YOU would find extremely difficult.

that's 10x

ten

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I don't think we're lying. I just don't we're testing.

Many experts have said all the time that it is not worse than the flu but Yas Forums and the mainstream - ironically united on this topic - ignored them:

statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

This article is by John Ioannidis:
>Ioannidis is a Professor of Medicine, of Health Research and Policy and of Biomedical Data Science, at Stanford University School of Medicine and a Professor of Statistics at Stanford University School of Humanities and Sciences. He is director of the Stanford Prevention Research Center, and co-director, along with Steven N. Goodman, of the Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS).[5][6] He is also the editor-in-chief of the European Journal of Clinical Investigation.[7] He was chairman at the Department of Hygiene and Epidemiology, University of Ioannina School of Medicine as well as adjunct professor at Tufts University School of Medicine.[8][9]
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Anonymous (ID: SKnwuOPM) 03/24/20(Tue)01:19:34 No.249835466▶
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And watch this:

youtube.com/watch?v=bqUcqeRdgk8

>Born in the town Itzehoe in Schleswig-Holstein, in 1966 Wodarg went, after his secondary school exams, on to study in medicine in Berlin and Hamburg. He got his physician's licence in 1973, and in 1974 he received his Dr. Med. doctorate degree from the University of Hamburg with a dissertation on the Mental Diseases of Seafarers - a study of suicide, alcoholism and other major psychiatric disorders. He subsequently began work as a ship's doctor, and following a research trip to South Africa he began in the position of port doctor in Hamburg. Since 1983 he has held the position of Amtsarzt at the health department of Flensburg, of which he became director in the same decade[3]. Wolfgang Wodarg is a lecturer at the University of Flensburg.

You guys reached 50,000 cases in 1/5th the time it took other countries. It takes 1-3 weeks to die from the virus. You're going to have a massive spike in deaths next week most likely.

> Just wait another 2 weeks user

In reality there are not even 5% of Corona deaths compared to the flu worldwide.

Nobody understands that there is large a group of people who get extremely ill, to the brink of death, and only survive because they can be put on a respirator

how are uninsured burgers going to deal with the costs of hospitalization

Well most countries are doing their best to curb it.

I'd expect given the high % of obesity in America and lack of fucks given the US will hit 15-20% death rate. Half of America can barely breath as it is even when fully healthy because their lungs are smothered in fat how are they going to survive this shit.

Maybe. But maybe the minority of experts were right and early data was just no sufficient to justify the measures. Read this. It is from one of the top experts in the US:
statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

its just starting, wait a week or two.

Is Oesterreich lying? Anyways, now we can all see how honest China has been.

Cures been found. China and proxies ie Italy, cooked numbers no longer matter

The mantra of "We must flatten the curve" is like "Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction" or "Assad is gassing his own people" or "most of the world is going to be underwater soon." Dr Wolfgang Wodarg is calling the coronavirus an outbreak of mass delusion and panic. youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI

1) Nobody dies only of the coronavirus: 99% of those who die with it have comorbidities, and the average age of death is 80. People are simply flooding into hospitals to die there who ordinarily would have passed away peacefully at home.

bloomberg.com/…/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus…

2) Doctors and nurses often go into isolation for 14 days for fear of spreading the virus, causing shortages of staff.

3) Italy, the cause celebre of the overwhelming of medical infrastructure, had an outbreak of tuberculosis before this all began.

lewrockwell.com/…/italy-is-second-country-with…/

4) Panic about the virus causes many to flee from cities into the countryside, overwhelming resources in areas which are ill-equipped to handle a large volume of people.

5) Dr John Ioannidis of Stanford University points out that the only true case-study which we have of the coronavirus shows a death-rate as low as 0.05%.

statnews.com/…/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-co…

As Dr Wodarg says, the way this works is, first you manufacture a contrived pandemic by intentionally testing everybody who is ill for coronaviruses. Then you inflict tyranny on the general public, who, owing to media panic-mongering, actually beg for it. Finally, like Italy and China, you stop doing the tests, and claim that your authoritarian measures have solved a problem which you created.

The coronavirus is also masking the 2020 economic crash.

Stop with this. We have no data for all asymptomatic cases.
Kung flu is more contagious than the flu.

Great summary. But why don't you use the full URLs?

Jesus man it's just getting embarrassing at this point.

My wife is symptomatic (has been for about 2 weeks, negative flu test) and insisted on getting tested. We went to a drive through test site yesterday and were the only car there. In and out in 5 minutes.

It's this. The death rate will probably go up when every healthcare resource gets tapped out and corona hits the dialysis facilities and nursing homes. As long as emergency medicine isn't completely overwhelmed a lot of people that would die without treatment will be kept alive. There are probably a ton like that kicking the bucket all over Italy and Spain right now.

>one country reports unimpressive death rate
>"they must be lying!"
>multiple countries report unimpressive death rate
>"the whole world is lying!"
every time.

but fully recovering isn't immediate either, and even after the symptoms go away you can still be carrying the disease. deaths / (deaths + fully recovered) is misleading.

>1%
3 GORILLION burgers died from the flu you bigot

Flu death rate is .1%

Official flu death rate isn’t 0,01 it’s between 0,1 and 0,5 in hospital cases depending on the season. Next to nobody does get tested for influenza by the doctor except children. With SARS-Cov-2 we are also looking at an over representation of hospitalized cases.

Do you have the results already? Is this a blood test or how is this working?
Good luck to you both. But honestly you don't really have to care if you are under 50yo.

/thread. It's too soon bois.

Can be significantly higher in some seasons. Pandemic flu is much worse.

They overwhelmed their systems because they are basically a step away from 3rd world countries

They did a nasal swab, supposed to take 5 days to get results. I'm 33 and she's 31. Thanks, I think she got through the worst of it last week but her job is considered essential so she needed to get tested to get out of work.

Nobody is talking about symptoms gone. We are talking about 2 weeks. You are not able to infect others after 2 weeks

>Just wait another two weeks user...

The Corona virus has been counted as one of the subviruses of the common flu. Like for example the influenza virus is part of the flu, so has been corona. It is documented everywhere. So when we keep reducing the common flu by picking all dangerous viruses and counting them separately, the death rate of the flu will continue to decrease.

>dead delayed by 2 weeks
>lancet article shows most have died 9 days after symptoms onset.
Also recovery is almost three weeks after symptoms onset. You just can’t take death and divide by death plus recovered in the exponential phase.

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The flu is 0.01 idiot
Covid-19 is MAYBE 0.5
Which is quite high

Ah I understand. Enjoy the spring in the free time :)

Does this actually kill anyone under 30?

This is the latest doomer cope, kek.

>everyone is lying, this is still a major happening guys
>here is how corona-chan can still win...

His prediction of only 1% of the population getting the virus seems a little off... There are no models showing that. He says 60% is pessimistic, but most models show 60% as being an optimistic count with 80% being more likely. 18 months is the estimated wait for a potential vaccine (if it happens at all) and we're only a couple months in.

But yeah all these lockdowns and other measures are going to seriously fuckup the world.

Almost all cases in the U.S are active. It's too soon faggot

What I know is that until now it has killed only ONE person of all under 18yo people. A 16 yo girl in China.

Pre
Existing
Conditions

The pneumonia it causes is what kills you

>>cherry picking numbers: the post
I think it will end up being 1%. Give corona chan 3 weeks and see. What about permanent kidney ang lung damage

If you can press R0 down less will need to be infected, because the number of people required to provide population wide immunity is a function of R0.

Western flu season conditions us for better odds than Asians. They eat too well never get sick so when they do they die from mediocre virus fights

There have been a few mysterious cases but people are hypothesizing it might be due to alcoholism, smoking, undiagnosed conditions, etc.
Pretty sure since the bodies are infectious they aren't doing proper autopsies though.

If you are healthy, probably not. But it might damage your lungs forever.

Well models are made based on data. And his main point in the article is that we don't have enough and non-contradicting data. He makes models for a living so he knows what he is talking about. But yeah I don't think we disagree very much.

Now that you mention this... wouldnt hospitalising people make it worse? Hospitals very well known for creating cases of hospital-acquired pneumonia

Another boomer who can’t comprehend time. Was it really that easy boomers? Could you get through life back then without knowing how to extrapolate basic data? Is your entirety of statistics based on big number bigger than small number? I guess this means that illegal immigrants aren’t bad at all because they commit less crime total than the entire nation right? Jesus Christ you guys. Growing up in the 70s must have been easy mode, you are all retards.

my point about the symptoms was that depending on the definition of "fully recovered" you could be appear and feel perfectly healthy but still not contribute to the recovered count. the post i was replying to was arguing deaths / total reported cases was inaccurate because death is delayed by two weeks, but my point was recovery isn't immediate either.

I wonder if some of the young deaths were vapefags

It’s 1% with medical intervention. ICUs will fill up next week and you’ll see stories of Americans creating makeshift morgues.

21 year old in Spain with leukemia
27 year old with birth complications died while coughing a little bit and being tested positive
two Chinese doctors massive overworked and sleep deprived with likely a massive initial dose

>my point about the symptoms was that depending on the definition of "fully recovered" you could be appear and feel perfectly healthy but still not contribute to the recovered count

Where did you get that information from?

celebrities already got their trump medicine and cured weeks ago while CNN, liberals, and the rothschilds were trying to prevent the information from spreading

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But 18 million dead in China bro, how do you explain that?

Thanks Deutschbro, you as well

Herrenrasse Genes

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>durf a dur muh pre existing conditions and old people

America is the world's fattest country and stacked with old people