15% DEATH RATE CONFIRMED

>80% of the world is going to be effected, so you're talking about 2% of people on this planet dying off. 140 million deaths. 6-8 million dead here in the USA by the end of this. And IRL that number will probably be higher. And that is assuming no second wave, or third wave, as happened in previous pandemics.
Also the numbers OP referenced do include mild cases. Not all asymptomatic cases, likely (though some), but obviously not all. So just want to point that out, too.

Basically, you do the math, any way you cut it this thing is really bad. Those numbers I pointed out above are a best case scenario. quarter of a billion people could easily die from this thing, maybe more. Could be as many as 20 million dead in the USA. 25 even, if we want to get into upper estimates. Maybe even 30 million. I mean it's literally just a matter of doing basic math.

And? Nigger as much as 86% of people who get it experience no symptoms. Why would they get tested? It’s like H1N1 all over again. They said that had at least a 5% lethality rate at the time and it ended up being .02% when all was said and done.

You retards need to look at the death rate from the flu each year and then historically at H1N1.

This is a fucking larp and a cover for the poor economic state of all western governments.

Hurrr neoliberalism didn't fail guys.. it was this pandemic hurrr

you're a retard. The only way to know is to judge by countries which spiked some time back and have had an outcome for most of their cases. Even then it is hard as it didn't infect many elderly in korea and china lies about everything. It would appear around 2 percent and it will be more clear as time goes on and most known cases have had an outcome

The increase from 6 to 15% is promising. I'm sad for the serious/critical rate dropping from 10 to 4%. Poor coronachan killed too quickly unless she comes in waves.

Your are weeks behind regarding an EXPONENTIAL spread, lad. We thought like you too some weeks ago. Don't make the same mistake.

Even people that aren't dying from it, young people, are getting deathly ill. And they're horrifically sick for weeks at a time. This is a long-term illness. Takes like at least a month to resolve. Most deaths are happening 2-3 weeks in. It's a slow, painful process. Nothing is good about this.

>Basically, you do the math, any way you cut it this thing is really bad.
I'm not denying it's gonna be bad, it is. The CFR is going to skyrocket if our healthcare system is crippled by this.

And there aren't deaths going unreported? Why are H1N1 deaths higher estimated than confirmed?

OK no, not 2%. The overall deathrate, globally, 4.5% of all known cases, including mild cases. Then you factor in cases that were covered up by govts like China. Then you factor in the stress we're gonna face in our healthcare system, which is woefully underprepared, in the USA. Then you factor in that that 4.5% number is still grossly offset by new cases. You really get into breaking this number down, and you start to see why the whole world has shut down over this thing.

Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. I understand that .2% isnt 0% though. Some young people will die.

I hope you are trolling and not taking this number seriously. Otherwise name your land and I will avoid it in future

>The overall deathrate, globally, 4.5% of all known cases, including mild cases.
And just to be clear, cuz I know people aren't understanding this concept, that is INCLUDING unresolved cases. So the actual death rate is going to be quite a bit higher than that, understand?

What do you mean .2%. WTF?

Are you stupid or something?

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Lol 90-95 percent don't even get a coof.

Yeah the death rate for boomers over 80 and vapers is 15 percent but who cares.

How many unconfirmed cases are there? That’s right we don’t know. This is a terrible metric because the data is incomplete.

The more people that gets it the death rate will drop what is so hard to understand

Reasonable estimate, but I think it will be lower.
Cases that end in death develop much quicker than those that end in recovery. Therefore the death count in "resolved cases" is ahead of the "recovered" count by about two weeks.
Two weeks may mean a factor of 10.

My own Fermi estimate would be about half a million deaths in the US, and maybe 5-10 million worldwide.

To all habbening cunts: conclusions will be available in peer reviewed papers. And these papers will review clinical cases. Not fucking general statistics. I am thinking to stop visiting Yas Forums since I am greatly disappointed in overall education level here

The only people getting testing are people with bad symptoms. Of course that's going to inflate the numbers. There are millions of people that had it, already recovered, and never got a test that aren't taken into consideration in your math.

Those undocumented cases are the ones fueling the exponential growth.

In germany an infection rate of 60% is projected, which means over 40 million people, and when 15% of those die it's 6 million. Now do the math for the US.

Are you? 20 people get it. 18 never feel shit enough to even get tested and 2 people get so sick they get tested and then die. Based on who got tested it has a 100% lethality rate. That’s how stupid you are

Add seasonal flu retard. YES DEATH RATE IS LOWER, but to get corona you need to touch your face or someone I’ll must cough at you. While if you are in the bus and someone has a flu there: whole bus is fucked. Thus, more people infected. Higher death rate. There are ~3 MILLION DEATHS per year due to pneumonia and no one gives a shit what kind of corona or flu caused it.

Then why is it rising for days now?

Here you go retard same website from OP

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It will peak eventually, the more that die there wont be anymore to die from being infected

Not generally true.
Somewhat true for Spain and Italy, not true for Norway and Australia.
Check this:
ourworldindata.org/grapher/tests-vs-confirmed-cases-covid-19-per-million
Estimates on mortality need to rely on the data from countries that did a lot of testing.

Why do you stupid fucking idiots keep doing this?
IT IS DEATHS/TOTAL CASES NOW KYS
It's not autism it's retardation.

Look, the virus originated from China since December. That means that it could be there since October - November. Chinese are everywhere. The probably brought the virus to almost all the countries before the new year. If it was REALLY that bad then by this time health care would be fucked everywhere. Stop reading all the bullshit and try to think once for fuck sake

I think it's either one of two things:
A: Lots of people are getting it and experiencing only mild cases and recovering on their own; some without even knowing they had Coronavirus; So we are only seeing the serious cases on the tip of the iceberg as more and more people enter critical condition and pass away; thus inflating death rate

Or B: More and more people are going from mild condition into serious condition and dying; thus telling a true story about the real death rate.

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>MUH 6 MILLION

Come back to reality Hans, this is literally a nothing burger. I suggest you get some sleep

At the same time treatment methods are being experimented world wide with plenty reporting great successes. It's going to be a bloody week, but there will definitely be a light at the end of this tunnel.

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I am sure that this is rather Akhmed. It can not be that bad

>Muh peer-reviewed
No one cares what your conclusions will be when it's all over, nerd.

32% if you ignore china's fake numbers.

Now include the recovered with permanent lung damage.

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OK. Why are you calling me "retard"? You didn't specify at all what you were talking about when you said .2%. You just put that out there like you were referring to the overall death rate. It's not my fault you're not articulate.

Only thing I would point out is that that data is probably not 100% accurate. That's from February. Back then, WHO was estimating the death rate of this thing at only 2-3%, which clearly turned out not to be the case cuz the mortality rate is now known to be far higher. Basically, most of THOSE numbers are from the Chinese Government, which we know lied and covered most of what happened there up.

So we will see what happens to young people here in the USA and Europe. So far, it looks like young people are quite vulnerable to it, and are getting very sick, though obviously not nearly as vulnerable as the older people.

Also sadly .2% of young people dying is actually a pretty big number. It's 1 in every 500 young people, if everyone gets it. But yeah the actual rate is almost certainly significantly higher than that for those age groups.

Esp peeps in the 20s and 30s, cuz it seems like only teens are really skating by with mostly no mortality right now (barring pre-existing conditions).

Because we are in exponential growth.
Those who die are dying within a week or so, those who recover take several weeks. Therefore the deaths are racing ahead of the recoveries.
When the curve flattens, the recoveries will begin to catch up with the deaths and the mortality will go down.

This has already happened in China.
We may not be able to trust the Chinese data, but even if 8M Chinese died, this would amount to less than 0.6% of Chinese population.

14% of people in the hospital which is like 10% of those infected.

Exactly you moron. Stop making conclusions, wash your hands, avoid social contacts, eat healthy and do sports. All that until we know wtf is that. Or simply fuck off

It's been confirmed that some tests will show positive for other stuff and labeled as a case.

If there are far more infected... Then it's good overall, that means we will reach herd inmunity faster, even when that means more deaths. Suck for the death ones but I don't want to live a full year under lockdown

That's cancelled out by all the deaths that were never tested.

Please go suck Jew cock somewhere else. This is Yas Forums bitch! LMAO

>So far, it looks like young people are quite vulnerable to it, and are getting very sick
It’s always unhealthy people. High blood pressure, obesity, respiratory problems. If you are healthy and young there’s nothing to worry.

You are using the word skewered to mean skewed and simultaneously calling other people retarded. You seem mentally deficient. You make your own possibly valid point seem worse by your stupidity. If you habe any history of posting like this, you are undoubtedly personally responsible for making people with functioning brains think anti-trump individuals are literal morons. I just wanted you to be aware.

There isn't a correlating 1:1, that's the point

Nigger the diamond princess cruise had 3700 old boomers on board with nowhere to escape and only 8 died from this
>but muh survivors with lung damage
oh NO they won't be able to run any more triathlons

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Even lower actually. Studies suggest the real death rate is 0.2%.

>Poor economic state
>so let’s tank the economy
???

People die sooner than recover

cope, seethe, dilate, etc etc

This

I think this might be true. Back in February a friend flew to Florida from France. A couple weeks later myself and several of my friends/co-workers/relatives were all sick as fuck, some worse than others. My mom's husband even went to hospital and was diagnosed with an unidentified viral infection of the lungs. And his chest scans ended up looking a lot like sars covid-19. The doctors asked him if he had been out of the country, he didn't know he was in contact with somebody that was a future hot area. With all that said, I don't really know if it was really what was happening.