We are shutting the world down for less than 20k deaths. Is this the biggest over reaction of all times
We are shutting the world down for less than 20k deaths. Is this the biggest over reaction of all times
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>crash the economy to let 80 year olds live six months longer
multiply it times a 1000
We are reducing the economy to prevent millions of deaths while it is still possible to do so
maybe
but if it hits 100, 300k, 1m, 2m, 10m...everyone will say they didnt do enough
The funniest thing about COVID is watching so called strong Americans become socialist pussys when told it's a nothing burger and go back to work.
It's over already. America is opening up and people are getting back to work.
Look at the Stock Markets!! Biggest rally in years.
It was nothing after all.
China lost.
Everything's ok in Russia.
only 2,996 people died on 911 yet that shit rocked the world. It doesn't matter how many die, what matters is how much of a threat it is to rich yuppies and boomers that makes it a problem
Inofficially 9.000.000 - 14.000.000 chinese died.
We will reach the point where normies get sick of social distancing and will act to get their fornication, travel and parties. That's the moment when we all go to hell.
America is the only country in the western world with a leader behaving like trump is now, after he did a 180 over the weekend. This will not work and when america is having thousands of dead per day they will lockdown, if it is allowed to go that far.
It only kills the old and weak. Small cost. Business and the country's economy is far more important.
Yes. This is a knee jerk reaction
Media blowing this out of proportion to hurt Trump
"reducing the economy" which will cause a crash
>when america is having thousands of dead
2009
H1N1
Over 60 MILLION INFECTED
OVER 12,000 DEAD
How many deaths if they didn't impose a shut-down? I know none of you cocksuckers care if your parents are killed, but I like my mom and don't want her getting chinese virus.
Except the models predict a complete infection of America within 20-40 days...
Your mom isn't worth killing the economy and business over. Sorry.
>per day
You dumb piece of shit
Your opinion is in the extreme minority and when people start feeling the reality of the situation you'll see that. Also, it usually only kills the weak and elderly, young people do have some severe cases, the deaths are extremely rare however because the hospitals can handle the current numbers with ventilators. Guess what happens when the hospitals dont have enough ventilators?
That charts shows that H1N1 has a mortality below that of the common flu, while coronavirus is averaging 1-2% in countries that can treat their cases in hospitals. Are you an actual idiot who cant do math or are you that malicious that you think everyone else is?
Why? The great depression didnt increase mortality rates (ie no one died). What kind of dogshit system are you defending where society is supposed to place the money of child fucking billionaires ahead of human lives and families?
>meme flag
Nevermind lol enjoy your LARP
you really think corona is a threat to rich yuppies? you really think 9/11 was a threat to rich yuppies?
>of the common flu
The flu has killed more since JAN 1 than Covid has since OCT 30
Sorry neet, we go back to worm next week
The crash will be bigger if bodies stack bud.
U really don't know how bacteria cultures work? Maybe u are just dumb or don't understand nature and life. But I'm on pol, I'm not surprised.
>The great depression didnt increase mortality rates (ie no one died)
Historians estimate at least 3 million civilians died in the Great Depression in the US (1930-1940) mostly young children, the elderly and women, as well as single men
So the population of Ecuador? Should civilization be brought to its knees for that?
No, if its only the beginning
If in britain they didn’t lockdown, deaths would be about 150k to 200k in Britain alone assuming low death rate before herd immunity
You have to be over 55 to have such a bad understanding of # of cases. Chink AIDS is new, very few people have caught it proportionally speaking. It is far more lethal however, so if as many people got it as have the flu, we would be looking at a catastrophe. It is also extremely infectious, which is why case numbers will balloon without quarintine. This combination has actually meant that corona is now killing more people per day than the flu is averaged to, despite how new and underexposed it is. The longer countries wait, the more of a death toll it is going to burn. Stop and think, for a moment. Do you believe that if this were a nothing burger the chinese would react the way they did? Then, ask yourself, why does the insectoid brain of the Chinese government value it's people more than america?
>we go back to work next week
I can work from home, so theres no break for me, but even if I couldn't I'd want a shutdown. The whole reason we have governments is for a crisis like this
Yep, this will be ultimate cringe a year from now. Happeningfags BTFO again. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN
Yes and anyone who says otherwise is a golobohomo shill. Remember that this shutdown is supported by every kike news outlet and every politician who are now using this as an opportunity to spend trillions on their pet projects.
Once again, mortality rates did not increase during the great depression, you are wrong
>The whole reason we have governments is for a crisis like this
get a load of this faggot
>see flag
oh
>lol just let it spread let it compete with the flu starting October have it mutate some more
Yas Forums experiencing peak retardation.
>Once again, mortality rates did not increase during the great depression
more dead than flu and covid combined
Okay, then why is there a lockdown if we are going to be infected anyway?
Listen, even if the us doesn’t lock down, the worldwide economic imapact is staggering, and it is a global economy after all, linked together. This is already far worse than the 2008 recession, we could almost be guaranteed a depression at this point. Damage is done
You are wrong
Meant for Why do you have a goverment then dipshit? Bank bailouts and money for isreal? Programs for black youths? My bad that's a much better use of your tax dollars than keeping your family alive.
China economy is going fine. Their stock market barely gave a fuck. America market Is filled with inflated money that's why it crashed
Spanish flu had a 2.5% mortality rate
>You are wrong
the great depression was a well known thing, real and a huge moment in history, look it up
Here's what's going to happen, in America, if we just do nothing.
1.1 million to 3.3 million will die from the efffects of the virus ASSUMING THE PRESENCE OF OPTIMAL MEDICAL CARE. Without optimal medical care you could see death tolls above 5 million. While the majority of these will be >60 (and 60 by the way, is not that old: It is when most people just become a grandparent) a significant chunk, up to 1/r3rd in some models, will be below 60. (This is because despite having lower death rates the young are a higher percentage of the population.) And the young death toll may be higher as patients even requiring serious fever care are turned away from over-capacity hospitals. This is JUST deaths from the virus - not counting the deaths we'll see from people who DON'T have the virus, but now can't find timely treatment at over-capacity hospitals.
These death tolls will not be evenly distributed across class lines. The rich will take the opportunity to self quarantine and work from home while the working class dies in greater numbers. They will not tolerate being exposed. You will be fired for having a cough. Meanwhile, if they do get sick, they will get preferential treatment, while you tough out fever and debilitation at home alone, praying you don't need to go to the ICU, while your grandparents/parents die drowning in their own blood and mucus.
The US will not take this lightly. They will stack body on body like cordwood, and we will see video of it. We will politically radicalize. This country will not absorb millions of class-divided deaths and remain sane. And the economy if we just let it run unabated would not be doing well either.
Now repeat that to some extent all over the world. The projected death toll of the virus does not show you the cost to the economy if we just let millions die, and it does not show you the eventual cost of political radicalization.
>what is exponential growth
>1.1 million to 3.3 million will die from the efffects of the virus
so less than the great depression
China is misreporting everything, can’t trust any stats from there at all
USA already trying to implement bigger stimulus plans than during the2008 recession and that’s only due to the external economic downturn, the downturn WITHIN the USA hasn’t even begun
/thread
Dude the Great Depression was not a fun time to be alive, lol.
>China is misreporting everything
Sure
You are wrong
> ? you really think 9/11 was a threat to rich yuppies?
Yes considering the twin towers and the pentagon had mostly financial and government works whom were rich yuppies.
You dumb tree swinging big lip nigger!
Those Coronavirus stats are completely outdated.
Bro, they pretended the virus was under control yet is now a global pandemic lol. Fuck China I don’t care about anything they say
So what?
They can't really lie about their stock market that is a serious crime since foreigners invest in it
there were millions of swine flu cases in murka?
Chinese cell carriers lost 15 million users in febuary, make of that what you will. Even accepting chinas numbers, in which they lost less people than italy despite covering it up for close to 2 months, they had to enact insane measures to accomplish that
Creating a global depression is a serious crime
>Dude the Great Depression was not a fun time to be alive, lol.
so why do they want to do it again?
>they will lockdown
XLR8
Cause they've been dealing with these viruses forever they know how to stop the spread 90% of them never leave china this one is an exception
>there were millions of swine flu cases in murka?
and 12,000 died in America while no one cared
Fpbp
Not everyone. 1m, 2m, 10m won't say fuck all.
Up to 21 million missing accounts now.
sane poster, all too rare on pol these days
Westerners not paying attention, China literally welded people insider their houses to contain the spread. Do people think the west will do that? It will be far more difficult to stop the spread in USA in particular
Americans caused the first depression and killed 50 million. but China kills a few thousand and your panties are in a bunch
Because the alternative is a global recession anyway, AND 3+ million dead americans.
Fpbp, fuck this shit.
>Up to 21 million missing accounts now.
no job
locked down
still paying bill
kek
Germany had 25000 deaths in 17/18 from the flu.
Yup, that's right: Global Corona deaths are less than the deaths in Germany alone from a bad flu season. Look it up.
You will have depression either way at this point unless you convince people having everyone with age over 70 or any underlying health issue autodying for many months is ok. Even if we unlock down all countries now, still have a bad recession at least
They aren't locked down anymore apparently. Even still if those accounts do not come back, then they are dead.
Provide a source you fucking schizo
>Your opinion is in the extreme minority
So?
What point was this supposed to address, that's not meant to be a dig genuinely wondering.
12000 out of 60 million is nothing
>only 1 million died, there's still 7 billion of us
Nice. Where does it end for you niggers? Anyway, as your "muh it's only mild flu" can change anything. Economy is tanking, 1984 is coming, you can't change anything.
Fuck off kike shills.
Fpbp, based, and also redpilled.
The Chinese lockdown will end in the next few days actually.
Source: German media today
>70 or any underlying health issue autodying for many months
the same people who would die anyway of the common flu
They already, unlocked the regions outside of Hubei and Beijing.
This. It's just targeting those that should have been pushed out on the ice floe already.
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Not to mention that your "sources" are reddit and twitter. You're really grasping at straws.
No.
Maybe that's why they've been trying to push hatred of boomers everywhere even in normieville.
It's actually about 5 million chinks. Western governments confirmed the burning of bodies with satellite pictures and decided to take drastic measures.
They didn't want outright panic though so they went along with China's bogus story.
>so?
So we're not going to sit by and let 3+million die for the line to keep going up
wouldn't have to do it if healthcare was thoroughly funded everywhere
Shut the fuck up with your idiotic ideas you fucking nigger. My thirdworld shithole of a country sent me free bytes to spend, and you're saying 20 million Chinese can't get the same with Huawei. Fucking retarded imbeciles.
All of them are dead and same will happen to you.
They didnt do extreme measures they did what they always do
So? There weren't many cases outside of Hubei. Look it up.
In fact, Hubei made up such a large percentage of the cases that I'm almost tempted to believe in miasmic theory.
I personally think they got over it so quick by just executing coofers.
Again like I said if those accounts stay gone in a couple months then they are dead.
12,469/60,800,000
vs
38/1,329
dumbfuck
Yes so they should be able to pay their phone bill no?
>We
You don't even have friends lmao
Yes.
Yeah the panic was the actual problem. Now people are used to being home and don’t want to go back out.
Wait where are you getting that from?
Reminder that 17,000 people a year die on average of the flu in the UK alone. Worldwide it's 250,000 to 600,000
But sure, tell me it's a sensible idea to destroy countries over corona
Imagine bragging that your kike chancellor is lying about your country's statistics. Go suck a muslim cock faggot
There is no proof China lost phone customers. Try again. Even if they did it's probably people during a crisis cutting their unnecessary costs, for example mobile phone contracts.
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We are at less than 5% of the ultimate death rate. We're shutting down for a disease that is going to kill 200-600 million if we don't shut down.
>20k deaths
20k deaths thus so far. The party is still just getting started in the US because of how retarded people are and how incompetent the government is.
Watch the source I gave you. The chinese telecom websites even had it on their sites.
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