How many lives have been lost to anti-mask shills?
How many lives have been lost to anti-mask shills?
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>trusting doctors
>ever
>nyt publishes a good opinion
The end is nigh. Raise the honk level to clowncon 1
The narrative with the masks makes zero sense. You’re contagious during the two week incubation period and as much as 86% of people are entirely asymptomatic after the incubation but are still contagious so it would only make sense for everyone to operate like they have it in order to reduce the spread by wearing masks
>trusting the authorities
>ever
I told all the idiots here weeks ago we should be wearing masks and most of pol thought it was ridiculous. Wearing masks does save lives and we fucking failed on so many levels because we are weak, bloated and ripe for the taking.
I wore a respirator and only saw four other people wearing masks or gloves. And the Wal-Mart cop followed me to my car, normies won't realize til it's too late.
Obama in the form of surgeon general was the one telling us not to wear masks. He made his demand in nigger dialect. Niggers continue to lose credibility in anything whatsoever? Color me shocked, and don't color me blackfaced, because I AM NOT A NIGGER!!!
At some point it was mandatory to wear a mask in China. Only a retard would believe the shit they're saying here that a mask can make things worse because you don't know how to use it.
This is particularly is what makes me mad. They are shaming people for trying to protect themselves. They should be teaching them how to use masks!
Cant find any NYT article about not to wear masks.
Do you think they've taken them down?
This one is from Forbes. But these fucking shite stories were everywhere for the last month at least.
Fucking media have no shame.
>why lying to the public backfired this time
>implying they usually get away with it
Doctors get the rope too
The ruling class is dumber than it looks. Now the normies will kill them all in mass anti-gov riots.
They should have been honest about the situation and told the truth, that the masks prevent people from contracting the virus. Instead, over and over again they said that the masks are useless so don’t buy them because our medical personnel need them. Press S to spit on the liars.
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>Instead, over and over again they said that the masks are useless
They did say it. They really did say it.
Like, is this a crime? Did anyone archive links at the time?
incubation is 5 days, not two weeks
devil's advocate, i always got the feeling that discouraging mask use was to prevent shortages for medical staff who really do need them, and also because most people are too retarded to wear the mask correctly. i couldn't tell you how many times i've seen someone wandering around with their nose uncovered or pulling down the mask to answer their phone
Even worn improperly masks still reduce exposure to airborne viruses.
>good
No. They are only strategizing how to lie better next time.
>if it was true the CDC would have recommended it years ago
>We only make science based recommendations
These people are treasonous
Many many many people in the media here stated that the masks are ineffective so to save them for health workers, there’s got to be hundreds of examples.
>professor of information science
They dont want to discuss the fact that Chinese people sent all the masks to their 2 billion countrymen back home, leaving us with no masks.
It's possible the doctor quoted is a diversity hire and actually believes that.
no it doesn't, if your nose is uncovered you might as well be not wearing a mask at all. and not only that, you've endangered two people because you took a mask away from somebody who would've used it correctly
>They only work when Healthcare workers wear them!
This is typical U.S. behavior -Secrets and Lies.
This.
how effective is your dust mask?
i imagine it helps but i doubt its really that effective since the infected is probably not wearing one
That's wrong. If the mask is covering the mouth, every inhale and exhale done through the mouth is filtered. Is it ideal? No. You wouldn't tell people not to wash their hands after shitting just because some people are too stupid to wash properly, would you?
even Yas Forums fell for the "masks don't work" BS
in the only countries that didn't have to completely fuck their economy to handle this virus (Taiwan, S. Korea, Japan), people wear masks 24/7
N95 is 100% effective when worn properly. That means ensuring you bought the right size (S/M/L) and that it's fitted properly (press down to form the metal strip to your nose). They last up to 40 hours, or 8 hours in a clinical setting. Discard if they get wet.
Sadly we have redditards that frequent our board.
> and why this is blumpf's fault
>since the infected is probably not wearing one
if everyone wore masks, the infected would also be wearing masks, therefore the spread would be curbed.
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THEY NEED TO TELL PEOPLE TO WEAR A HOMEMADE MASKS. ANYTHING TO COVER YOUR FACE IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.
A FUCKING SCARF IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.
The issue was medical workers need masks, too. The US fucked itself over outsourcing factories overseas and not having a bigger stockpile of masks ready for this.
Even our few remaining mask producers were warning every administration to stockpile more masks:
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Retard officials and politicians decided spending a few billions on stockpiling masks was a waste of money.
Now, they're spending trillions trying to unfuck this situation.
Yes, the authorities see you as beneath them. That's why they want the great culling.
Wore a big ass 3M mask I bought two years ago a few weeks ago to Walmart, eyes covered, gloves, made sure not to touch anything I didn't need too.
This.
Why would I trust anything the W.H.O says when they're the same organization that claims gender dysphoria isn't a real condition but video game addiction is.
The damage is done. They can't discredit themselves in the middle of a pandemic.
>How many lives have been lost to anti-mask shills?
6 million
are you really not aware that your nose is also connected to your lungs
Nope. Only those with underlying conditions show after 5 days. The majority don't show symptoms till after 2 weeks but the entire time spread it
It's beyond fucked here. The people are propagandized beyond belief. They get angry when they see people wearing masks. Like punch in the face angry.
I cant link it on mobile but there are 2 studies where the % of nurses infected with influenza from treating hospitalized flu patients wasnt significantly different between the n95 group and the surgical mask group.
Not just masks, also glasses. PROTECT YOUR EYES
You are aware that if you breathe through your mouth, very little air goes through your nose, correct?
average in china was 3.8 days for symptoms, 5 in singapore. the 14 day nonsense is either panic mongering LARPers or people too stupid to realize that a 14 day quarantine is because that's how long it takes to make sure you don't have symptoms, not how long it takes for symptoms to show up
Meh, hospital workers don't wear splash goggles, they just wear standard safety glasses. The important thing is filtering your breathing.
Reposting this for the retards who believed ((their)) lies and didn't buy a mask.
>INFO
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>Our findings suggest that a homemade mask should only be considered as a last resort to prevent droplet transmission from infected individuals, but it would be better than no protection.
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>The homemade cotton masks captured 50% of 0.02-1 micron particles, compared with 80% for the surgical mask. Although the surgical masks captured 30% more particles, the cotton masks did surprisingly well. The researchers concluded that homemade masks would be better than nothing.
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>Any type of general mask use is likely to decrease viral exposure and infection risk on a population level, in spite of imperfect fit and imperfect adherence, personal respirators providing most protection.
>GUIDES
Poorfag Mask. Least protection but better than nothing:
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Now You're Trying Mask:
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Schizo Mode:
Same thing as above but replace the paper towel pleb shit with an HVAC filter. Normalfags aren't buying these (yet) so you can still snag some. You can make multiple, reusable masks off just one of these.
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Google a filter with a MERV rating from the link. The higher the rating, the better.
They're discrediting themselves even more with all this bullshit.
They have nothing to lose at this point.
The first politician to suggest homemade masks will look like a fucking genius.
wow what a reliable source
I've been trying to get masks for 2 weeks since I have asthma and pneumonia almost always puts me in the icu. This virus could possible kill me in spite of my good health. I'm essential so still allowed to work during the lock down and
I have asked several dozen people where they got theirs. Almost every single one of them. My wife, daughter, sister, mother is a nurse. The governor of Michigan has been basically seizing all shipments of sanitizer and masks. You can get homemade hand sanitizer made with witch hazel at some stores that will allow it to be sold. The shit most likely doesn't kill anything. These fucking nurses crying on social media calling us hoarders have most likely stolen tens of thousands of masks since January. The hospitals are searching them when they leave because they wiped the hospitals out. Go search their homes.
this guy gets it
>dr.
>picture of 12 yr old
source?
lol so wrong
Lads, I have 300 surgical masks. I wanna give them away to people in need.. How can I do this without drawing too much attention to myself?
>even makeshift masks would at least reduce the viral load swimming around in the environment if EVERYONE wore masks
>asian countries like taiwan comprehend this immediately
>west : HURRRR DURRRPITY DURRRR
>The issue was medical workers need masks, too.
But that wasn't the message that was sent.
The message was "MASKS DUMB. WASH HANDS."
Does washing hands even fucking work? Against something in the air?
Have they just been feeding us bullshit this whole time while they all hoarded tp and sold their stocks?
now, do you trust your average person to wear them properly?
0. Is there a follow-up question?
Ah you're an idiot, I see. Good luck, friend.
It is because they are working from the position of what china has done lower int he post. We were already in dire straits; that was just a desperate attempt to try and salvage the situation.
>50% OF GLOBAL N95 MASK PRODUCTION LOCATED IN CHINA
>IN JANUARY CHINA NATIONALIZED ALL N95 PRODUCTION FACILITIES INCLUDING AMERICAN OWNED; EXPORTS BANNED AS WELL
>IN THE 2 WEEKS FOLLOWING HUBEI LOCKDOWN CHNA BOUGHT OUT GLOBAL N95 SUPPLY TO TUNE OF 56M
>IN THE 24 HOUR PERIOD OF JANUARY 30TH 20 MILLION ALONE WERE ORDERED
>CHINESE NATIONALS ACROSS EUROPE, NORTH AMERICA, AND OCEANIA BOUGHT OUT RETAIL LOCATIONS AND SHIPPED BACK TO CHINA
>ALL WHILE STILL HIDING AND SUPPRESSING EVIDENCE OF THE VIRUS
>CRITICAL SHORTAGE OF N95 MASKS ACROSS THE REST OF WORLD OUTSIDE ASIA RESULTING IN CRIPPLED SURGE CAPACITY AS MEDICAL WORKERS DO NOT HAVE EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO ENOUGH RESPIRATORS
>CHINA CAN NOT BE CALLED OUT AS THEY CAN AND HAVE THREATENED TO CEASE ALL MEDICAL EXPORTS TO THE UNITED STATES INCLUDING 80% OF GENERIC DRUGS USED IN U.S.A.
>COMPLETE AND UTTER CHICOM TACTICAL VICTORY
how many viruses do you think are in a single infected droplet
Even when worn improperly, respirators provide some degree of protection. i would however prefer the unwashed masses to wear surgical masks. Good N95 respirators don't filter on the exhale, only the inhale.
Give them to your local hospital idiot
>authorities
lmao
the nyt literally did the same fucking thing. i cant be asked to find the articles or the ones where they said "dude its just the flu bro lmao" while walking that back literally a day later either. none of these kikes have any credibility to anyone anymore. fuck em.
No, I hate my town. Its full of ungrateful cunts.
Honk level confirmed. Unemployment will cause mass civil disruption. Hunker down and get your team together anons, shits going to get real over the next year.
I like to believe that most reporters and officials just wanted to save all the masks for medical workers.
They hoped that by saying "Just wash your hands" would be enough to calm people enough to allow themselves to buy the masks for their states.
Realistically, though, some might have wanted this to spread (MSM most likely).
Regardless, it was a stupid statement to make.
I pray that someone with a brain starts telling people to cover their mouth.
The small panic it will cause is better than the letting more people get infected, raising more social unrest.
Washing hands mainly prevents fecal-oral transmission. If someone coughs within 15ft of you then gg
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like 90% of Asians in Ann Arbor have fucking masks.
Those responsible, and that means from WHO to health ministers and hospital administrators, were all fucking retarded. The moment they saw what was happening in CHINA they should've prepared, urged/hired/started local production of EPI. That's the least.
>implying shit as small as a virus can be stopped by a shitty paper mask
enjoy the most expensive larp in our lifetime
>The narrative with the masks makes zero sense. You’re contagious during the two week incubation period and as much as 86% of people are entirely asymptomatic after the incubation but are still contagious so it would only make sense for everyone to operate like they have it in order to reduce the spread by wearing masks
If you use a mask with an exhaust vent you are not protecting others. Masks are primarily for protecting yourself, not others. By protecting yourself you help those infected by reducing the strain on overloaded hospital ICU departments.
>tfw my employer buys N95's by the case so I've been slowly building a stockpile for months
Feels good man.
masks not effective
also
> China Minmetals has fully mobilized its overseas companies and actively expanded overseas medical supplies supply channels. As of 22:00 on January 28, China Minmetals has purchased more than 350,000 masks from Japan, South Korea, Germany and other countries and sent them to Wuhan.
> Since late January, a dedicated group has urgently purchased 100,000 Korean KF94 medical masks in more than a dozen countries including Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, and Thailand.
> Pingsteel Anyuan Iron and Steel Co., Ltd. mobilized all cadres and employees to use foreign relatives and friends to purchase masks, protective clothing and other medical protective equipment abroad.
> As of February 2, Hunan Valin Group purchased 36,066,000 masks, 23,400 sets of protective clothing, and 6,000 sets of protective glasses in South Korea, Thailand, India, Australia, Kuwait, Spain, Lebanon and other markets. Among them, the first batch of 188,000 medical masks and 25 thousand sets of protective clothing purchased from South Korea, Thailand, Australia, Kuwait and Indonesia have arrived in Shanghai, Guangzhou and Hong Kong, China.
fucking mutt
Look into the head of the WHO he is a Chinese asset, this was all a calculated move, china has slung their stone and we are staggered; this is the end of the American republic. The only question is whether the Imperial U.S.A. rises from the ashes of this fire
Almost seems coordinated on China’s part.
In Michigan the stores are sending them all to the state. The governor ordered it.
Every single country that is dealing with this well is telling people to wear whatever masks they can find/make.
The czech government banned going outside without a mask and has seen an immediate reduction in new cases. This is after buying 300k faulty test kits from china.
>N95's by the case
Goddammit I miss buying them for cheap. Even the eBay vendors were welling a case of 240 for $50. All of it went to family these days so they're safer for the most part.
My parents actually bought it. My dad brought a bunch of gloves home. I asked him what about masks
>masks don't work user
They also nationalized all of the American, Canadian, and European factories in China.
see
It really depends. Surgical masks are to protect others, mainly by capturing spittle. n95 masks (aka respirators) don't filter on the exhale, mostly. Some cheaper N95s filter both exhale and inhale.
It absolutely was and resulted in a complete and utter tactical victory, the narrative is completely dominated by the lack of PPE now (personal protective equipment) they caused that.
Improvise
The problem with masks is the general problem with most people: they are unhygienic. Many don't wash their hands and those that do don't do it they way that prevents spreading infection, using a face mask is more complicated. Not only do they need to wash their hands right before putting it on, they need to know they can only use it for at most 3 days before replacing it. So many variables go into keeping it decontaminted and and most people don't practice basic hand washing. They will end up with a mask they wore for 2 weeks, never washed, put their contaminated fingers all over it making it a super-carrier of the virus that they blow into the air every time they exhale.
But they can't tell you you are too stupid to wear the mask right.
I think face covering masks are actually forbidden here in public the "burka ban" stuff. So do they lift that now?
I think it's a matter of strategy. China's strategy is to keep everyone virus free. They succeeded so far. America's strategy is to infect everyone, as evidenced by their ass-backward advice. This will (after millions of deaths) create a herd immunity. I can see why American leaders chose the infect everyone route - the constitution limits the government's ability to exercise the control needed to quarantine entire cities. It's pretty shitty though to tell people flat-out lies, such as "masks do nothing".
>masks only protect others from yourself so you don't need them
the absolute state of this narcissist society
That advice is correct.
Here's how to use a mask effectively
>come from clean location to your clean workplace
>wash hands thoroughly
>put on protective equipment (gown/frock etc)
>wash hands thoroughly
>put on mask
>fit it correctly
>leave clean location and treat patients
>return to decontamination area
>remove and dispose of mask and protective equipment
>wash hands thoroughly
>decontaminate self
>return to clean location
>wash hands thoroughly
Here's how a normie uses a mask
>put mask on
Masks are of no value if you're going to spend all day rubbing your hands on infected surfaces and then come home, take the mask off, and then spend all evening touching your face and rubbing your eyes.
In the US the airport security can make you take your mask off.
The government has all of the necessary powers between the World war and 9/11 powers gained by the executive branch.
>remove and dispose of mask and protective equipment
By the strings. Don't touch anything else from the mask.
>put mask on
Then remove to coof. Then remove it when it annoys them. The touch it, touch it again, touch their eyes.
Is this the reason?
Does the CCP just pay all the media shills to tell lies? Hollywood already does everything they say, so...
Fucking serious? Hand washing is only for people with shit and spit on themselves? Fucking serious pal?
This whole time all this advice is fucking useless?
Honestly I hate masks. Chankoro bugmen have no souls so they don't care if someone can't see their emotions on their face, but I want to see people's faces, I want to see their smile
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look at the boxes at 5:21 they say CNCEC (China National Chemical Engineering) for some reason
It stops you from coughing on people while hoarding TP and booze.
Also every single country that is handling this well is telling people to wear masks.