INCOMPETENT FASCIST FUCKS

I've scanned through a lot of threads here on Yas Forums and NEVER I've seen someone understand Marxist Economy. Literally all the arguments against Marxism and Marxism-Leninism in general are that the First Soviet Government was Jewish and that Socialism eliminates innovation and individuality ( which by the way this is TPUSA and PragerU level bullshit )


>FIRST SOVIET GOVERNMENT WAS FOR THE MOST PART JEWISH

This is true. Most of officials in the first government were jewish. You have to ask yourself why. In Pre Revolutionary Russia, antisemitism was WIDELY popular in the nation and especially in politics. The reason for this was the failing Tzar's Policies. The scapegoat they found were Jews. In Politics even the Left Leaning party ( Mensheviks, SRs ) didn't have a strong stance for Antisemitism. Only one party was 100% against antisemitism which was the Bolshevik Party. So with all this being said, you fucking Yas Forums retards, which party would a Jew join back then?? And it's literally obvious that the same party that won the Revolution had Jews in its first Government.

>JEWS FINANCED THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION

Well you dipshits. Fascism in Italy occurred with the allowance of the King itself. The whole March on Rome was just a stupid showoff. And much more, Mussolini wasn't even there, he was at the border ready to flee in Switzerland if the March didn't take place. Nazism won in Germany through a Democratical Election. That was possible because the most popular party, the Communist Party ( KPD ), failed to implement the Revolution. You may be wondering how is this related to the fact that Jews financed the October Revolution and this is why listed these examples. The October Revolution was followed by a FUCKING CIVIL WAR that was between the Bolsheviks and literally every european nation that you regard as evil to Germany for its post WWI sanctions. So every European nation was against the Revolution, the same nations you claim to be in favour of it

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The Bolshevist revolution of Russia was financed by the Rotschilds and other Jewish bankers.

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Most of the USSR's leadership was Ukrainian.

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Ukrainian jews, maybe.

There is mountains of evidence showing the heavy Jewish involvement in both Russian and Chinese communism.

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Who cares faggot. Now get to the helicopter.

>SOCIALISM DOESN'T REWARD INNOVATION

This one is maybe the stupidest. Basically you are saying that every scientifical, technological and bellic innovation made by the Soviets is fake and doesn't exist.

Sidepoint: I'm from Italy and we are calling Doctors from Cuba, Venezuela and China ( the same POOR AND ANTI INNOVATION Socialist Countries ) wondering why.


>COMMUNISM = DEGENERACY

You have to be a real idiot to associate today's liberal moral hell to Marxism. Distance yourself to this conception. Marxists have a precise conception of Family and Nation.
First of all, I've never seen anyone talk about Engels' book "The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State".

I'll try to explain the three main points.

>>FAMILY

Engels talked about the SOCIALIST Family. In which wanted to SOCIALIZE the Role of the family. In a Socialist society, raising a Family would have been considered a Full Time Job, so paid for. The idea is that raising a family, educating children and raising them as well is a fundamental part of a Society / Nation.

Anything that comes out of these lines is pure Democrat LGBTQ shit.


>>NATION

Nations are something that was formed Historically Recently. It's not like in fucking 1200 anyone fought for its nation. Everybody was under its Feud / Noble Family. Nobody gave a shit about France or anyother Nation. If you think so, read any fucking history book.

Since Nation are a new concept for history one should not distance itself from it but rather should be Patriotic. Patriotic is the dialectically positive assumpion of Nationalist. You have to love your Nation as your Homeland but not disregard others, which is something that is part of Nationalism.

>Capitalism incentivizes nationalism and borders to alienate labour
This one in particular hasn't exactly aged well.

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This is some TPUSA level bullshit as I said

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Even if there was Jewish involvement in what way China and the Soviet Union would have contributed to the degeneracy that is today ?

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Yea, TPUSA and the Soviet government are both controlled by the same (((ethnicity)))

You aren't even a Slav.

Don't involve yourself in things you don't have a clue about.

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Out of all the dandelions you had to pick the one with the ugly marxist face on it.

>Nations are something that was formed Historically Recently.
Nations were something that were formally recognized historically recently.
They have existed since the dawn of man.
All functional societies throughout all of history have had a concept of "societal self".
This is because all societies are effectively higher order organisms, and hence all societies are subject to evolution via natural selection just like individuals are.
Without a concept of "societal self", there can be no concept of self interest on the part of the society as a unit.
People only understood this post Darwin.
It doesn't mean it didn't exist pre Darwin, and the implication that it didn't, taken to its logical conclusion, would be that evolution itself didn't exist pre Darwin,
>It's not like in fucking 1200 anyone fought for its nation
This is like saying that societies in 1200 were not driven by material circumstances because materialism hadn't been formalized yet, which also invalidates marxism being applied to any society before the time of Marx.

Sheesh

>So every European nation was against the Revolution, the same nations you claim to be in favour of it
Just because my enemy is opposed to something doesn't make me automatically in favour of it. Come on user, this is child-level thinking.

The Left Can't Meme.
Because the Left is a meme, the butt of a joke.
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Somehow, all the petulant screaming of Marxists fails to win me over.
Maybe if you dropped the whole anti-White, anti-working class shit and jew worship. But that will never happen.

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>I've scanned through a lot of threads here on Yas Forums and NEVER I've seen someone understand Marxist Economy.

"muhhhh business owner is the bad guy...."
Yay that is fucking retarded.

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The left care about humanity and want to save the world. It's not their fault they're not willing to work to do that. Be more sensitive.
Like WAY more sensitive.

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tl;dr user copes with falling for santa kike's failure of a philosophy

Still nobody...

I'm not reading all that shit

Soulless chink bugman shill with small penis and smooth brain who thinks like a cat. Parents so shame.

Marxism is not a philosophy. It's a bit of history, a bit of envy and hatred and a lot of bloodlust.

tldr please

Basically what Yas Forums thinks Marxism - Socialism is. Switch Government with Jews and there you have it

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>This is true. Most of officials in the first government were jewish
this is untrue.
It is true that Jews were over-represented in bureaucratic positions relative to their weight in the general population.
the oppression of jews is part of the explanation, as is th generally higher rate of education among Jews in the SFSR. vis-a-vis the non-Jewish population.

simplistic tripe from a low-information fool.

this is true. Ukrainians were over-represented in Soviet leadership positions over the entire history of the USSR.

>source: Schmooze: your jewish pop culture fix
utter nonsense

low-information idiocy.

your icon of law and order is the man who rent apart the oldest constitution in Latin America.

>strawman nonsense

based

OP is thoroughly based

KYS .

>What do you call a professional jew ?
A Communist.
>How you say "Santa Claus" in hebrew?
Karl Marx.

Hey faggot you ever wonder why the people who hate Socialism the most are those who lived in Socialist countries (such as the USSR)?

Every "Communist" is a Westerner in the modern day who grew up in a 1st world life.

> >source: Schmooze: your jewish pop culture fix
utter nonsense
How does that refute it?

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Why would jews even lie about how much they’ve helped communism? If anything, they should be doing the opposite

As a Hegelian I must reject Marx's bugman materialism.

>ive never seen ANYONE understand my personal subjective bubble fantasy ive carefully cultivated to set my ego's loins ablaze of marxism and how i have decided it is above perfect and beyond reproach and woven many a tale i mean proof of it not being behind 250+ million 20th century peacetime deaths at all EVER instead it has USHERED IN THE UTOPIA WHEREVER IT IS USED and you cannot refute any of this because my personal narrative, i mean the facts say so

It is definitely a philosophy, just a bad one that sees philosophy as a vehicle for social change rather than a process of examination.

so any way
how many corpses are enough?

I've refuted this in prior threads.
The largest contingent of foreigners fighting with the PLA were Koreans.

Marx believed the intrinsic value of something was the amount of labor put into making it. So if I spend 500 hours fashioning the perfect mud pie, that mud pie is worth thousands of dollars. It's called the Labor Theory of Value. Fuck Marx and fuck communism.

Koreans and other asiatics were mere puppets of the Jewish bankers, who were and still are in control of Red China.

>If we try it just one more time
Why do these communist faggots always want to turn a country communist instead of just moving to a communist country?

youtube.com/watch?v=_1d3Kxx36gY

The Jews were one of the issues. We aren't schizos. We understand that it is a faulty economic and political system whether or not it is run by Jews or not.

>more deaths than anything else ever in human history

>NO THAT WAS JUST PRACTICE AND PRETEND COMMUNISM

you have refuted it as any with a ego-malignant delusion "refutes" anything
with some string of words that isnt even coherent to anyone but you

>This is true
That's good enough reason to discard it.

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Wow cool you're gay

source?

true, it's unironically made me more authoritarian, people cannot be allowed to control their own life or governance.

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I just gave you itbut I’ll give you more

This is one of the stupidest counter arguments I've ever read against Communism. It's like you have read the first 10-15 pages of The Capital and didn't understand a word.

Well you are an Ancap, it shouldn't matter anything I say, you will remain a stupid fuck.

Enjoy your slave contract to Amazon TM

There is absolutely no need for any of us to understand the ideology of our enemies. You are on the opposing team and therefore we will hate you and fight you until there is only one team left standing. This is tribal warfare in its purest form and it is a glorious thing. It has nothing to do with morals or truth or profit, it is a competition and whoever doesn't win is a loser.

For more information...

"Europa -- The Last Battle": archive.org/details/EUROPATheLastBattlePart1_201906

"The Crucifixion of Russia": archive.org/details/TheCrucifixionOfRussia

"The Checkist": youtube.com/watch?v=X_RSDqBn0bA

>SOCIALISM DOESN'T REWARD INNOVATION
I agree that, phrased this way, the proposition is not true. Often the best way to incentivize innovation is to fund open-ended projects. If you let corporations decide what to research, they usually just do market research, figuring out how to sell their product well, and do little bits of tinkering on the edges to be 10% more efficient than their competitors. So sheltering projects of invention from market forces actually can lead to more innovation, not less.

However... you didn't address a related proposition that I think holds more water.

>SOCIALISM DOESN'T REWARD CUSTOMER-FACING WORK-ETHIC
The classic example is the workers at the DMV. They do everything they can for their paycheck, and since their paycheck isn't coming from the people they serve, they don't bother to make going to the DMV a particularly pleasant experience. Now that's fine as far as it goes- I'm not arguing that we should privatize the DMV. But when every level of work in a given industry is nationalized, there really isn't anything to connect your performance to pleasing the customer. Instead you will just be kissing ass to the manager. The manager will have no incentive to make you do things that make your product more efficient, or to be more pleasant to your customers, or reduce your customers' wait time... you get the idea.

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Look at

>This is true
stopped reading

This. I don't care what the big beard Jew has to say about anything lmao.

You also don't understand fascism either because the frequency of polsters complaining about how the government is going to take our guns away and how they are forcing people into their homes and arresting folks and violating our freedoms etc. posts on pol right now would give you the impression that the majority of polsters are just anti-Jewish libertarians. Fascism is independent of whether one holds "anti-Semitic" beliefs. Most of the Jews in Italy during Mussolini's rise to power were pro-fascism until he allied with Hitler. Stop building this corollary with antisemitism and fascistic beliefs because it isn't true.

>government officials
>Rosa Luxemburg
The person who made this utter meme of an image obviously didn't do their research.

Okay, fag, questions for you:
>do you like bitcoin?
>do you want private property?

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