Isn't smoking bad for you?
Smokers resistant to COVID19?
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It is not entirely impossible. You can imagine that the smoke destroys tge virus in some fassion.
That actually makes a lot of sense. I also suspect - though I am way out of my depth here in terms of medical expertise - that smokers' lungs may be producing more mucous that would block incoming viral matter, either reducing absolute incoming viral load or at least staggering it out, as incoming contaminated particles would be trapped for some time in mucous before they reach a cell they can properly infect. This would reduce the peak viral load exposure and give the immune system more time to act. And, as you pointed out, the regular bombardment of high temperature smoke might also damage or inhibit the virus.
Maybe it is just correlation tho. Smokers don't care about their health so they may also clean hands less etc. and be better immunized
But to THAT much of a degree? I checked the text of the primary study and it is indeed done on hospitalized patients. So the question is, why is it so hard to find a smoker among hospitalized COVID19 patients? If 20-40% of the population smokes, you would expect to find much more than 1.9% of hospitalized patients are current smokers.
I'm 65 been smoking for 50 years
COPD and had a heart attack 5 years ago
I'll let you know.
I got sick around January-ish thought it was regular flu itchy throat cough 2-3 days in boom fever body drenched in sweat got my girlfriend sick she got her family sick I got my mom my uncle sick everybody turned out ok but judging the time between I got sick and how rapid those around me got sick... it is contangius also daily weed n tobacco smoker additionally McRonalds asshole extra grundle sauce horrible health connoisseur but I lived idk judging by my experience can see how it can really render somebody ill oh yeah was at the airport around January picking up family pretty sure that’s where I got the gook flu 5000
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can confirm as a smoker. rarely ever sick, at most a 2 day cold which is only runny or blocked nose. that’s the most I’ve ever been knocked about cold/flu wise.
If this gets out White Ox sales are gonna go through the roof mate
Smokers are the first one dying from Coronavirus, because their lungs are alredy fucked up.
Running theory is that the receptor the virus connects to is all fucked up in smokers lungs. so the infection is slower and their immune system doesent have time to ramp up to attacking friendly cells
im gay
idk man i smoke for 15 years never had even a mild cold but this virus got me hard one week of chest pain and pretty bad poop but its all good now
I am still pissed as fuck that the medical officals were blameing vapes and smokers for covid this whole time.
as long as I can punch a deck of winfield sky blues each day I’m sweet. out of reach price wise for many these days
I am a daily smoker, pot and cigarettes. I have gotten strep throat twice in past two years, because I frequent glory holes. Am I more or less at risk?
Pack a day since 2005 and years of bricklaying and industrial work under my belt. All of this resistance training will finally pay off boys
No, smoking is actually good for you, it raises testosterone and actually makes you get sick less, not more.
I'm going to guess COVID is bad news if you've got full blown aids
It doesn't make sense because Italians smoke like chimneys and they are getting fucked right now.
Yas Forums - fake news. The stories posted here are works of fiction, only a fool....
Yeah but you didn't end up in the hospital. From to the numbers in this study, it seems very few smokers do.
disregard this Nicorette Inc shill
Italians dying because their old smokers is a meme. same as the chinese old smokers meme
Lmao. Swiss shitposting at its finest :))
told ya to smoke ya dumb nigger lovin liberals
go worship that faggot hitler of yours
Cheers mate, best get a few packs ahead of time.
OP trolling people into death, kek
Good job OP, natural selection.
Mom always said better safe then sorry so;
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Ok now as for smoking how can we be sure it's not some China disinfo that possibly wants to see as many people die in the west as possible so they come out on top?
It's a double edged sword. Yes, the tar in a smoker's lungs helps protect against corona invasion, but smokers' lungs are compromised, and any corona infection will likely end in a higher % of fatalities.
It did occur to me that this could be bad advice, but it's hard to argue with the data.
I've been looking at other datasets, including the Italian outbreak, and this is what the data indicates. The prognosis for hospitalized smokers is worse than non-smokers, but they appear to be less likely to end up needing to go to the hospital in the first place.
Hf dying from cancer/copd/CAD
why
This is good to know, thx canada bro
>current smokers
so some chinks stopped smoking? That doesn't magically heal your lungs you fucking retard
whycancer?
This doesn't explain the disproportionate rate of infections and death among men when taking the rate of smoking into the equation. It just makes a fucking mess of meaningless numbers.
Here's clickable link because OP is a nigger:
Abstract:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Full article:
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they laughed at me when i said i had it back in january. worst flu of my life
>had ever smoked
>are currently smoking
Underrated
Same.
Knew guy who swore by switching to and chain smoking Nigports as soon as he got sick. He was also in special ed classes tho.
Men have I know there has been some speculation in the media about smoking "explaining" this higher mortality rates in men but that is bullshit. Not only because it contradicts the results we've been discussing, but also because it ignores a major factor - worse immune systems than women. This pattern is the same with flu deaths as well. Testosterone suppresses the immune system. It's like turbo for the mind and body - live fast but die young. A man who is healthy despite having high T must have an exceptionally strong immune system, which is why women are evolved to be attracted to signs of high T + health in men. Anyway, this is all a separate discussion to smoking and how it interacts with COVID19.
52% of Chinese men current smokers.
Then why is it so difficult to find a hospitalized COVID patient who is a current smoker?
Tobacco smoking saved my life.
Are weedbros protected too?
it’s a fine line between genius and crazy. I don’t know what side of the line I’m on yet.
Based
...so people who smell like sulfur are immune to that disease. Of course, if this disease come from the bowels of Hell.
So... no smokers are going to die after a disease.
Meanwhile, the smokers are going to die after economy collapse and massive famine starvation. Good.
the virus binds to ace2 receptors in the lungs. smoking kills ace2 receptors. it's kind of like how people with amputated hands are less likely to get frostbite, but if they do it's a bad case.
Now you see why there was that big anti smoking/ pro vaping campaign everywhere.
Very interesting. Does this apply to cannabis smoking as well? Are tobacco stocks going to boom when this gets out? People can literally take up smoking for the next few months until this passes. We can flatten the curve but lighting up.
lol same wtf
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Smoking increases ACE2 sites making you more susceptible to the virus. This is a CCP thread trying to kill us.
>but they appear to be less likely to end up needing to go to the hospital in the first place.
presumably because they're used to having reduced lung function in the first place. You're less likely to notice anything wrong if you already have a perpetual cough/heavy chest/restricted breathing.
Can confirm, as an ex-smoker of 9 years, I have no idea whether my chest feels heavy because of the fu (I've also had an on/off fever for the past 8 days) or simply because that's the way its always been. Either way, there's no way in hell I'm going to a hospital to risk further exposure.
based.
haha eat shit health freaks with your base level immune system and low energy antibody count. our immune system is swole and chad as fuck from working overtime against all the free radicals in our bodies.
cancer masterrace >>>>>>>> chinkflu virgins
smoking cigarettes is decidedly based. I smoke too much but in moderation, its based
Damage to lungs will be minimal, most lung damage stats are based on assuming that the smoker is a pack a day
Smoking boosts testosterone/androgens and reduces cortisol production during stress periods, which deflects estrogen production
looks cool and scientifically turns women on because its a self-destructive risk and absorbed cost to health
And today I learned that it also makes you immune to coronavirus
Marlbor-bros forever
Vaping liquids contain propyleneglycol that actually kills bacteria and viruses. When it reaches your lungs it form a thin layer of liquid that you can easily coof off. This kind of condensation is especially noticable in cold weather.
So it actually helps, if anything.
i smoke and never had flu, never had fewer over 37°C etc. but also i think its quite opposite and if you are smoker it fucks you up more. this looks like disinfo
>smoked for 10 years
>only been sick once
>was a cold for like a day
nice virus faggots
Thanks bro
Doctors used to recommend smoking in the redpilled days for a reason
> presumably because they're used to having reduced lung function in the first place. You're less likely to notice anything wrong if you already have a perpetual cough/heavy chest/restricted breathing.
This doesn't even come close to accounting for these numbers. 52% of Chinese men are smokers and men comprise most of the hospitalized AND dead, yet only 1.9% of the hospitalized patients are smokers. By the simple math, you would expect roughly 25% of hospitalized patients to be smokers and even more if smoking actually made you more likely to be hospitalized. Yet it's the opposite. Your explanation is preposterous - there would be COVID-19 infected smokers dropping dead at home in huge numbers because they were "unaware" and thus didn't bother reporting at the hospital.
you guys must be some wealthy non-bogans. don't cigs cost like a gorillian kangaroo bucks down there? One pack of jacks as i understand it run you out of , at least, 25 units of your funny money
> survey of patients in hospital found no smokers
Did they check the morgue?
its called superior genetics
as I said in
> The prognosis for hospitalized smokers is worse than non-smokers, but they appear to be less likely to end up needing to go to the hospital in the first place.
these studies include patients who died as well; they're not just wandering around the hospital quizzing people in hospital beds, which would indeed be oversampling survivors
40 dollarydoos a deck
t. 6-figure non bogan who hasn’t lost their job.....yet
$40 fucking dollars for cigarettes? Roo's BTFO
maybe the smokers all died pretty quick, and all that was left to survey was non smokers?
I smoke cigars only. Smoke 1-2 a day every day for 20 years now.
I don't notice any issues and my doctor doesn't give a shit, so I'll smoke em while I got em.