Did Italy every truly side with the US? I always thought they were neutral.
Jaxon Davis
Good thing to see the rogue nations team in full view.
Carter Thompson
Not anymore. China allows businesses. They went full fascist in the 90s and never went back.
Ian Ross
LOL, probably the plan is not socialism, but I think that something will change
We are in UE, therefore, willing or not, we are with them
Adrian Gonzalez
Truth be told, if I were German, I'd be quite happy with the news that Italy is leaving the EU. They've always just been a lodestone to whoever they've sided with, and whoever fights with them is bound to lose.
Adam Long
>China, Cuba, Russia and Venezuela are the only countries that actually helped, thank you, we will remember that. >China If by "actually helped" you mean "caused the fucking outbreak." You don't get points for containing the spread in your country AFTER your mismanagement infects half the world.
Daniel Kelly
It's a common misconception, but they're followers of Marxism-Leninism and their current economy is organized under the theory of productive forces. They're in the primary stage of socialism, and are using an NEP-like stage of a socialist market economy for the development of productive forces in preparation for a fully-planned economy.
Tell me about those entrepeneurs, private investors, lack of price controls and free currency markets in Venezuela.
Julian Scott
I fully support Italy leaving NATO and allying themselves with China, Cuba, and Venezuela. They have much more in common with them than they do with us. Riches await Guiseppe!
Charles Watson
>half the world The whole world by now
Nathan Wood
Yes, if we leave, we'll be in a very, very deep shit if no one helps us. > whoever fights with them is bound to lose. KEK
It's just a point of view, what I mean is that they sent here doctors and masks
Luis Rogers
LOL, apparently the outbreak in Europe started when a woman from Shanghai who was infected traveled from China to Germany on Jan 19. From there, Italy was infected. Can you imagine from the numbers that It was actually Germany who was infected first? Complete untermensch mishandling of the situation by the Italians.
Carter Clark
>Marxism Leninism Marxism Leninism Maoism* and not anymore. Deng ended it.
Under Deng Xiao Ping, they re-introduced capitalism into the economy. They say they’re planning to go back into a centrally planned economy, but come on now. As of right now, they are not socialist.
Yeah, cause you know 70% of Venezuela’s economy is privately owned.
>entrepeneurs, private investors, lack of price controls and free currency markets in Venezuela. Socialism is when private ownership of the means of production has been abolished. As long as businesses are owned by private capitalists, it’s still capitalism.
China and Venezuela BOTH allow private ownership.
North Korea is the best example of authoritarian socialism today. Cuba is 2nd.
Nathan Watson
>rogue nations team What do you mean?
Easton Thompson
Countries that deviate from liberal democracy.
Ayden White
>70% of Venezuela’s economy doesn't exist Name FOUR private venezuelan companies. >China and Venezuela BOTH allow private ownership Of your toothbrush, maybe
Samuel Butler
China + Russia + Iran + That prospective missile launching base in the Caribbean
Elijah Fisher
>liberal democracy. your "liberal democracy" doesn't seem so democratic to me, it's just a mask to a liberal capitalism, your only option
Brody Miller
China is like state capitalist. Why do you think they have so many sweatshops and manufactories? The entire place is polluted from overproduction.
Michael Taylor
>Be Venezuela >Medical supply shortage >Most hospitals dont have running water >Doctors need to buy their own masks and shit. >Not enough medical personel if shit hits the fan >People already rioting and looting
>Lets the chinese in, army now tracking a tyranid genestealer chink woman that is on the run. >Sends their doctors to Italy.
Venezuela is the fucking Canada of the world nations man.
Henry Hill
China's NatSoc. You deserve to get raked for propagating the (((Pollution))) meme, leaf
Ayden Morgan
How are they natsoc? They haven't been "nationalist" in quite some time, as they destroyed any remnants of China's heritage and culture. I don't see how they're socialist either.
What pollution meme? Everyone in China has to wear masks because the air is terrible. The air is actually making it harder to live in white countries because it travels over the ocean to North America.
Joseph Gutierrez
>What’s the plan? Fight against capitalism? we take the great leap forward Fuck the Atlantic Treaty Fuck the EU Fuck the US
>your "liberal democracy" doesn't seem so democratic to me, it's just a mask to a liberal capitalism, your only option no shit. Capitalism and Democracy cannot exist side by side.
Alexander Campbell
They where/are in NATO, and hosted us nuclear weapons during the cold war, intermediates and short range. There's also a USAFB in the north. Got a friend there atm, place is on total lockdown.
Julian Ramirez
>Avior Airlines >A company who routinely flies to Iran, where many of the chavistas interests are >private
Matthew Martinez
Putin is my friend now
Owen Bennett
Still privately owned. *yawn*
Dominic Turner
Venezuela’s economy has the most similarities with Nordic social democracy.
The real reason they’re poor is because they’re a bunch of niggers. Not because the government is fucking them.
John Murphy
They have the world by the balls. If China goes tits up, everybody gets fucked. Everybody puts China first, including China, hence, Nationalist.
They're Socialist because they have based NazBol laws to fight against poz. No such thing as (((land ownership))), gov't monitors the media, people are pushed into studying things based on needs of the country, etc.
The ants in your house have little to no bearing on the temperature and air quality of your house. Same with humans and the earth.
Ian Jones
But now they coexist
Aiden King
The next step is our
European Confederation of National Socialist states.
Will we be able to do that step? Or will we drown?
Matthew Cox
China does seem to be fairly textbook fascist, aside from admitting it. >ethnocentric >nationalistic >allows private companies so long as they serve the state intererests.
Aside from being anti environmental, and destroying cultural heritage (which is complete leftist) they seem to be more nat. Soc. Than communist.
Luis White
I don’t think Switzerland will ever join lol
Cameron Hall
If the only legal binding is research, technology and part of education we will join. To each state and substates their laws.
Joseph Lopez
You should start by turning Italy into a federation, to begin with.
Zachary Jones
Again, read the article I linked. China's current economy is a transition stage of development of productive forces. Just like the NEP was under the USSR.
>“For socialism is merely the next step forward from state-capitalist monopoly. Or, in other words, socialism is merely state-capitalist monopoly which is made to serve the interests of the whole people and has to that extent ceased to be capitalist monopoly” >“The state capitalism, which is one of the principal aspects of the New Economic Policy, is, under Soviet power, a form of capitalism that is deliberately permitted and restricted by the working class. Our state capitalism differs essentially from the state capitalism in countries that have bourgeois governments in that the state with us is represented not by the bourgeoisie, but by the proletariat, who has succeeded in winning the full confidence of the peasantry.“
- Vladimir Lenin
Jordan Edwards
A confederation of regions? Southern states would collapse
Ethan Johnson
Funny how you basically got betrayed by your allies but the nations that your allies always demonized ended up helping you. In times of crisis the real character comes out.
China's a socialist market economy, but they're transitioning more and more toward planned economy but for now they have to focus on developing the productive forces in preparation for full socialism. They don't pollute as much as they used to and the pollution in Beijing has gotten a lot better than in previous years, and they met their Paris Climate goals 9 years early. They also have one of the largest rates of reforestation. China is greener than CIA propaganda wants you to think.
It's just that when all industry is outsourced to your country and you industrialize in a few decades, of course they'll blame you for pollution, even though it's their fault for outsourcing it.
Kayden Rodriguez
I really can’t understand fucking WHY If UE had helped us, maybe we wouldn’t ne thinking of this Maybe UE wants us to leave, maybe the whole world wants us to leave, why does others help us?
Alexander James
A confederation would not be good for Italia IMO, since you share the same language (except the napoletani kek), culture etc. I think the ideal political system would be a partially decentralized federation.
Connor Foster
Based italy cuba Venezuela and spain will become the bullwark against (((capitalism)))
Julian Murphy
Sorry but no, we've got a nice vaccine against jewish fairytales aka c*mmunism.
Brody James
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Evan Bell
Join us?
Cameron Ramirez
what a tool. Sure let's team up with failed states and corrupt shitholes, at least we'll stop pretending we're white and civilized.
Nathaniel Wright
The patient 0 was german
Jaxon Murphy
>Get raped >Side with the rapist in court cause he got you a towel to wipe the cum off
well he was pretty comfortable keeping his money in Vatican together with other thiefs of the world, including the fucking church itself.
Adrian Watson
No fuck you. It should be Italy, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Poland, Hungary, and China vs the world. You can jack off in the corner with your fellow spics if you want, just try not to get in the way.
Austin Gomez
Nope the UK is America
Noah Rogers
this "help" is so ironic when Russia needs those medics desperately itself. Its health system is collapsing and for last 10 years NO russian politician/wealthy person used russian medical facilities. Ironically, they prefer Italy, Germany and Israel to heal themselves.
Eli Green
The other are just dictatorship regimes
Levi Morales
no you. you are a literal nigger ready to open your buttcheecks for not even a help, but a pretense of help. You have no idea if those "medics" are really have any expertise because Russia is so deep in denial.
Alexander Baker
Italexit (exIT sound better) and Alliance with Russia and China.