How is capitalism not evil?

Whether it's capitalism or communism, the problem is not the method, but the corruption in the market economies that take advantage of both systems.

Use your brain

oh fuck you then explain why the fuck does venezuela keep pumping billions to their national oil company, a failing proposition that is supposed to bring them revenue not cost money if corporate subsidies are a capitalistic feature you fucking mutt

And the outcome of communism is having these same dumb crooks controlling everything, except now they're part of the "proletariat", instead of receiving free gibs from a corrupt government.
Maybe you dumb nigger should stop expecting for a perfect system, as such a thing cannot exist in this world. Stop immanentizing the eschaton.

Venezuela is a capitalist country.

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Capitalism is just a Jewish tool
Jews are the problem

You mean like they already do? The threats that capitalists keep claiming communists will inflict upon us, capitalists already have been for generations. Again, this is literally nothing but projection.

Bread lines from communism are a consequence of standard policy.
Bread lines in capitalism are a consequence of global catastrophe.

>corporations demanding implementation of socialist policies is the fault of capitalism
Why leftist posters are always so low IQ?

>goFgt
go faggot indeed

inb4 this new round of bailouts is rubber stamped by house democrats and the pod jons pretend to be outraged and blame republicans

>planes not flying because borders closed
Omg they are evil cutting their staff

>Bread lines from communism are a consequence of standard policy.
No they're not.

What is socialist about billionaire bailouts? Socialism would be nationalizing the airlines.

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hurr durr people aren't flying on airplanes so there's no reason to keep them in operation

fucking idiot, what do you think they're going to do? keep people working when there is no one to fly on the planes?

Oh you 100% know that will happen. They're still fucking around trying to block temporary UBI while literally millions of people are out of work.

It's not under national control anymore. Look it up. They sold off most of their national industries to (((third parties)))

I make one point about corruption in the market economies, and no one even acknowledges it.

Debating over which economy (capitalism or socialism/Communism) is better without acknowledging the influence corruption has on the market, you might as well argue cuckoldry over who gets to go first in a gang bang involving their wives

Double digit IQs in this thread

Even if they hadn't. 70% of Venezuela's production is still privately owned.

Oh I don't think humans should be allowed to self-govern at all. I think humans should be totally domesticated by another species and the "wild" form of human should be eradicated.

Socialism for the rich (just don’t call it that), and the shit end of capitalism and perpetual poverty for everyone else.

>not anymore
but it was and it was wholly subsidized by the socialist government

Capitalism is just the only way to somewhat efficiently allocate resources.

We keep it because the net outcome is superior to alternatives not because it is virtious

And? Even Pinochet wasn't stupid enough to privatize the copper mines. Turns out when people actually have a choice, they REALLY do not like capitalism.

Capitalism is literally the LEAST efficient way to allocate resources. That's not even disputable.

Why doesn't United Airlines just pull itself up by its bootstraps and take some from their rainy day fund? Maybe if they stopped buying iPhones or whatever they could afford to weather a few weeks.

>You mean like they already do?
Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Helicopter money and bail out for the elites , and you're paying for it.
>The threats that capitalists keep claiming communists will inflict upon us, capitalists already have been for generations.
I've yet to see a gulag, commie bootlicker.
>Again, this is literally nothing but projection.
Read the Gulag Archipelago and educate yourself.

People will have to get other jobs someplace else. Last I checked most of the work in air travel is done by fat slobs that stand around most of the day, and is inefficient.

Bailouts are 100% a mistake for big corps

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>I've yet to see a gulag, commie bootlicker.
America has the largest prison population in world history. Both per capita AND by total number. You see it, you just don't care.

You will NEVER be permitted to fuck children.

>privatize gains socialize loses
These fucking lemon socialists don't get it.
Their businesses are dead.
They've run out of other people's money.

united airlines is by far the worst. fuckem

Capitalists do not rule, capitalists can not rule, capitalists have only ruled in the role of warrior-merchants, like in medieval venice.

A ruling class needs cohesion to rule, capitalists, being in competition with each other, can not ever have cohesion.

The idea that capitalists or capitalism rules is a communist lie. "right wingers" against capitalism are just racist communists.

What are you even talking about when you way capitalism? Every political system wince ww2 has subsidized their industries, private and public, it has nothing to do with the economic system, so you must mean it as somehow a political system but show me a country where there isn't subsidies?

>Capitalism is literally the LEAST efficient way to allocate resources. That's not even disputable.
>central authority
>efficient
A human cannot take into account ALL the variables involved as we're only mortals and not gods. At least the market prices float according to supply and demand, at least until a statist like you starts trying to control everything.

(You)

I view you as inferior, therefore I will raise armies and resources to enslave you and make sure people like you never get to power....

... Is that how it goes? That what you want Rabbi Zionist? How you want it?

I'll let you foolishly perpetuate this cycle for as long as you will, until you get so tired of it, until you start begging for it to stop, only to be told that you could have stopped anytime you wanted, you just refused to stop.

Fool.

Real capitalism has been tried.

Its not a billionaire bailout you dipshit, billionaires wont lose anything. Its socialist because its puts jobs of the workers above the free market.

Would you say that...real capitalism has never been tried?

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Wrong, retard, it’s not capitalism, it’s corporatism. NOW maybe you understand why we keep complaining about a big government. Fucking retard.

Government bailouts are not capitalism. The fact that they are expecting a bailout means that their capitalism failed.

OP is a retard with green hair and a lip ring, you think that retard would ever understand what you’re talking about? He thinks socialist corporatism is capitalism.

Daily reminder that the government bailing out businesses is the opposite of capitalism and Op is a faggot

Again, people arguing with compromised systems. No one acknowledges corruption.

I hope you all realize that you look incredibly stupid and that no one takes you seriously.

>big government
in terms of fiscal, or power?

Both. We shouldn’t even be paying taxes. The government was always afraid of the people, until the kikes took over America.

The underlying assumption in the neo-liberal and conservative attacks against state intervention is the assumption that their minimal state is without it. The reality of the situation is, of course, different. Even the minimal state of the ideologues dreams intervenes on behalf of the ruling class in order to defend capitalist power and the property and property rights this flows from.

This means that the laissez-faire position is a form of state intervention as well. State “neutrality” considered as simply enforcing property rights (the “minimal state”) instantly raises the question of whose conception of property rights, popular ones or capitalist ones? Unsurprisingly, the capitalist state enforces capitalist notions of property. In other words, it sanctions and supports economic inequality and the privileges and power of those who own property and, of course, the social relationships such a system generates.

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corporations becoming so wealthy they just buy the gubmint isn't capitalism

Why do anti-centralists always display such abject ignorance about common sense 101? Just because one guy holds the reigns doesn't mean the carriage doesn't have horses.

Ok the US isn't REAL capitalism then.

Boomers can now stop with muh freemarket muh VENEEZUELA bullshit and we can start implementing successful socialist reforms that are found in nordic countries instead of continuing to ride this failing pseudo-capitalism

So you're saying that capital power is not capitalism?

You’re right. I should pay 40% of my hard-earned money to Israel and American Jews. My god, what was I thinking.

lolbertarians are like commies, they can't accept basic human nature as part of the equation.

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That's a retarded threat, these aren't lowly sanitation workers or store clerks
these are actually skilled professions
I would love to know what they think will happen once they've fired all their employees and things start turning back on

>>Bread lines from communism are a consequence of standard policy.
>No they're not.
Yes they are.

Imagine being this retarded. Thinking the government knows about human nature.

“liberalism, is in theory a kind of anarchy without socialism, and therefore is simply a lie, for freedom is not possible without equality, and real anarchy cannot exist without solidarity, without socialism. The criticism liberals direct at government consists of wanting to deprive it of some of its functions and to call upon the capitalists to fight it out among themselves, but it cannot attack the repressive functions which are of its essence: for with the gendarme the property owner could not exist, indeed the government’s powers of repression must perforce increase as free competition results in more discord and inequality.” [Anarchy, p. 46]

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Give the money directly to the employees they fire

Companies should be allowed to dump chemicals into the water like they did 100 years ago when our rivers were literally on fire. If you disagree you're a statist/commie/whatever. Corporations are people too. EPA and other regulations = bad.