Due to the nature of Chinese telecoms, your national ID is bound to your mobile number account, which is in turn bound to your Alipay account, the one-stop mobile app that manages all monetary transactions, including banking.
If you lose it you lose access to Alipay, which is basically how the Chinese pay for everything from chewing gum to haircuts to groceries.
People don't just cancel their phone numbers because of that. Even if you change your mobile phone number it's a hassle in Mainland China because of that.
When phone number accounts are not paid for a certain period, or if some other actor (relatives? gov?) shut down your personal account related to the country's database, the mobile phone accounts are automatically cancelled.
Here we see a drastic drop in mobile accounts in all major Chinese telecoms. China Mobile alone reports a disappearance of 7 million and 254 thousand. The actual number of coronavirus deaths may be up to 14,472,000 if we take the three major telecoms in China.
Anons from the previous thread raised the issue of multiple SIMs owned by a single person. Whilst that may be the case for business or other reasons, it still doesn't explain the anomaly here.
Have a (You) for your efforts user, seems you’ve done more work looking into this than anyone in the media. These slanty eyed bat eating insectoids ate definitely bullshitting the world with their numbers.
Caleb Martinez
You don't need phone 4g if you're stuck at home with wifi and this will last from 6 months to a year. Why not cut the cost and drop the phone service. I already cancel my phone plans, netflix, amazon prime, etc to cut back costs. China numbers are definitely fake but no way 15 million died.
Colton Walker
Can you focus your autism on determining if I should sell my Link or not?
Connor Anderson
Supposedly everything is back to normal in China though.
Chase Gutierrez
Maybe in certain regions but no way it's back to normal in regions that got hit hard. They have to worry about wave 2 of the virus if there's any.
Jace Sanchez
Wouldn't make sense if all your banking is tied to your phone number like op claims. We need a gook to confirm.
Ayden Walker
Trying to determine "factual data" about China is next to impossible. It's mostly a waste of time.
People's phones could have been turned off to stop the spread of info, there could just be an issue with their data, etc etc etc
Asher Foster
>kick out all western journos, including globalhomos like nyt we're totally fine dudes
although, couldn't cancelled cell phone account just be brokeass chinks downsizing?
Adrian Peterson
So I didn't feel like it was worth making my own thread for, but I've tried to do some snooping online & can't get a shred of info out of China. I don't want to pretend like I'm some 1337 hacker, but I do know how to find extremly privledged info via irc & tor. Obviously the validity of any info that I get from those sources is suspect, but what really concerns me is that I can't find anything. Not even disinfo. Nothing is leaking out of China, even pro China propaganda.
I went further & went on Chinese only onion based forums, some invite only. I'd scour the entire site with Google translate & there is not a peep. I then asked someone I know who is Chinese to help me set up a fake tinder profile to hopefully trick some simps into spilling the beans. Absolutely nothing.
I don't know what to conclude from this other than it is really bad there--really bad, and people are scared.
Noah Hughes
/thread
communist shut down everyones phone in most infected areas to stop spreading western panic
and we on the other hand have 24/7 news pumped out by every news vultures all around the world to get clicks with clickbaity titles
>meanwhile some chink is sewing my Nike ID's , got confirmation this week
Brandon Ward
in late feb some user posted a link that showed real-time traffic analysis from Garmin for Wuhan. Can someone find this? While not really related to 'deaths' it would show how shutdown is society still? When the user posted it, there was like a 98% reduction in traffic according to Garmin.
Dylan Flores
Can you look at December 2018 and January 2019 to see if they do an annual purge of numbers? Great work here
Charles Reyes
Bump, good research user
David Kelly
Based consoomer with the manufacturing data
Joseph Morales
Racist frog/anime website doing better investigative journalism than the mainstream media
Aaron Cook
bump, I hear some anons talk last month about massive # of bodies being burned in wuhan from weather/sat data
It's a meme, Trump just let it slip that it's a complete Hail Mary.
Hunter Gomez
Without doubt the dumbest fucking thread on Yas Forums right now and that's saying something
Ah yes, China must have thousands of times more deaths than all other affected countries and this is adequately evidenced by mobile phone contracts.
Just fuck off you stupid fucking retard, it obviously doesn't make any fucking sense but because you think you have a shred of evidence to support a completely illogical argument, you thought "hey, better not let this go to waste as I can get some attention from other idiots on the internet".
It's like wandering into some backstreet and witnessing some retarded bum pissing into the mouths of a dozen other retarded bums.
Most cases of covid are mild. The side effects of these anti malaria drugs include shit like blindness, deafness, & seizures. Mild cases have a low death rate, so 95% of covid cases would be better off not taking it even if it does cure it 100% which is still only tentative based on studies with small samples.
Luis Thomas
One thing I dont understand is if they are still in a bad situation, why are they sending supplies to Europe?
Henry Evans
You have to go back
Brandon Cruz
You are doing absolutely based truthful journalism user, keep it up
Josiah Fisher
The original number of people who fled Wuhan was 9 million. They were then labelled as enemies of the state, with bounties, numberplate tracking and phone tracking used to reel them in.
That's the only thing I can think of at the moment.
Ethan Rivera
>Total customers 1 million
What? Our top mobile carrier has 5 million or so.
Charles Campbell
Millions have died in China, but that doesn't mean their government is in a bad situation.
Is fake news trying to hype the stupids so they stop crashing the markets
Henry Reyes
>China must have thousands of times more deaths than all other affected countries It's probably fake but why can't it be real? It's the biggest country, it started there, they had been covering it up for weeks and eventually there was an unexplained decline in cases
Josiah Stewart
>why are they sending supplies to Europe? they don't need them if they just let their own people die. its part of their propaganda to show europe how great china is compared to the us as an ally
Andrew Nguyen
It's not very far fetched at all considering it's China we're talking about. You know the same China that slaughters thousands of student protesters and then pretends it didn't happen at all and you'll go to prison if you talk about it. Is it not even slightly suspicious that the reported cases in China just came to nearly a complete halt as soon as it started exploding in other countries so people weren't paying as close attention to them anymore?
Joseph Sanders
It works, but it has a good chance to make you blind, deaf and cause a heart attack. It's a drug you take when you know you will die anyway.
Thomas Wright
Oh i get it, it's in thousands lol, i'm too drunk for this.
Leo Parker
You're a fucking nutcase. No country would be able to hide 100k dead bodies let alone 14.5m, especially when the entire world was watching it.
Here's a far simpler explanation - phone bills are one of the first expenses people would cut in these types of crises when their workplaces shut down and they lose almost all their income.
Verizon stocks are down right now because Americans are doing the same. This will only intensify as millions of Americans file for unemployment next week.
Adrian Richardson
fucking retarded. if 15 million died, someone would have noticed. there are hundreds of thousands of expats living there. thousands of foreign journalists.
Isaiah Cooper
Except the Chinese use their phones for everything. You can't just not use your phone over there
Zachary Cooper
fucking hapooning disinfo agent. chloroquine is so benign its used as a prophylactic by tourists against malaria.
Benjamin Cooper
That and the most obvious explanation - chink government started shutting of services to individuals who were leaking out info, messages etc that shouldn't be.
Juan Perez
Feeling nervous moonboi?
Lincoln Mitchell
The CCP is pretty good at keeping shit under wraps. 15 million dead chinks is a drop in the ocean.
Leo Murphy
>bullshit numbers What about the Diamond Princess?
Samuel Ward
>muh diamond pwincess Most of those cases are still ongoing
Bentley Taylor
Bump
Christian Roberts
15 million is only 1 in 100 chinks, and even if it's 1.5 million or a few hundred thousand that's way way higher than what they're reporting
Oliver Clark
American settlers gave smallpox infected blankets to Native Americans. Who has the means to screen literally millions of paper products from China right now?
>poor workers sent home for a month >have money to pay all the bills
necc, first thing they drop are cell phones for children stuck at the house and later their wives phones as they have to move to a family phone.
Fear mongering faggots can't think through anything like a human because they are sub-human.
Ethan Russell
>900m line to the mass graves
Josiah Bailey
>muh inhuman bugpeople There's no reason to blame the poor sods living in a totalitarian hellhole for their weird antisocial behavior. Human beings aren't designed to develop into functional adults when they know that they're being surveyed, judged, measured at all times by an entity they aren't allowed to question and that has absolute power over their lives.
Kayden Ross
Screencapping a ton of this thread, I want to see you do the same and reposting it so we can see if it's true in a month or so
Justin Hill
Chinks are insects though, death numbers are meaningless compared to one white person
Lincoln Williams
Sure, if China wanted to get a purge going this would be the time to do it.
Cameron Stewart
Absolutely the best thread on Yas Forums right now, peak internet detective.
lmao. it always cracks me up when I see moronic anons post shit from jennifer zeng or china uncensored and think its some underground fringe info. both outfits are glowie as fuck; not saying that the chinese can always be believed either but if you take what people like jennifer zeng say without a grain of salt then youre just unwittingly whoring yourself out to glowie psyops
Luke Russell
Good bread, makes me wonder why on /pol you can't find a thread like this.
It's posted on Yas Forums first At the very least this didn't come from that twitter whore specifically, pretty sure it started on some HK forum first. Besides that, you can check the info yourself for this one. No trusting anyone necessary, just that the reasoning/interpretation behind the data may be different
Sharing extra information some HK user posted
"From what I read in HK forum, the chink mobile subscription work like this: Every subscriber has a stored-value card which they need to transfer money in it, the telecom company will deduct the subscription fee every month, if you didn't have enough money they'll cut your subscription and chinks usually wouldn't store a lot of money in their cards, but rather transfer money on a monthly basis. It is possible for a single to have multiple subscriptions, but since your number is bound your real identity it is not common for your average guy to have multiple numbers, also it is important to have a subscription since china has pushed the electronic wallet (alipay) very hard, you basically must have an number in order to use alipay"
Asher Hughes
>no country would be able to hide 14.5m dead bodies Most chines have multiple accounts and other reasons may exist for cancellations. Still china has 1.4b so 1-2m dead would be easy to hide, especially with the military, big construction for hospitals, and so on. Current activity in china could easily disguise the deaths.
Michael Cox
>14 million deaths in two months And I thought 6 million was crazy!
It is bullshit, malaria is not a virus it is a parasite
Owen Peterson
More like 4%
Kayden Wright
A 1% death rate with all the authoritarian bullshit they pulled that wouldn't get any traction in any sane country
James Bennett
you're actually retarded if you think 15M died in China. I could see it being much larger than they let on, maybe up to 100,000 dead.
15M means they're lying by a factor of 5,000x. You can't cover that up. That's not a drop in the bucket either. Stop being a wigger.
Jason Ross
I wonder if PREP would be a better medication to take since it's actually meant for a virus. Too bad all the degens buy out all the stock to fight off HIV
Jacob Allen
>16, 849 dead in the US >Times a 1000 >16, 849, 000
Those numbers are actually credible in chinese scale
Cooper Bailey
>you can’t cover that up Mao covered up 100 million dead chinks and those numbers were only learned after his death.
>They can't cover that up all they have to due is test 1 out of every 5000 people who have Coronavirus, and all the others that die would be listed as a seperate statistic. They don't report people as coronavirus deaths if they were never tested for coronavirus.
Benjamin Lopez
Just to take that 3.4% mortality rate estimate from the WHO as an example, if 1 billion Chinese contracted the disease, then we would expect 34 million dead. The Chinese population according to their 2019 census is over 1.4 billion (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China). If the entire 1.4 billion population were infected, even at a 1% mortality rate, that would be 15 million. Depending on what the actual mortality rate is and how wide the actual spread is, 15 million doesn't sound too far off of what's possible.
Cameron Collins
The international community wouldn't call them out on it because the resulting panic would further tank markets.
I wouldn't say it's nothing, but honestly? I feel like a likelier explanation is genocide/removal of dissidents. Either actual removal or societal deletion.
In other words, there's more than one way for China to be shady.
Jason Nguyen
Just ask china bro
Thomas Ortiz
>official number of confirmed deaths in Italy is currently 4,032 out of 47,021 confirmed cases >the ""official"" number of deaths in China is 3,253 out of 81,250 Yeah, I'm sure the Chinese are just completely truthful about the actual number of cases and actual number of deaths.
Oliver Hill
did you even read the post you quoted, nigga?
Thomas Ross
or maybe they know how to cure it because they created it in their labs
Justin Carter
>don't have to report them as corona victims if you shoot them for dissent
This...China is def lying. However I seriously doubt millions have died or it would be way worse everywhere by now. I think the user who suggested that they shut down phone services to keep information from leaking is probably right. well done chingchongs....
Joshua Sanders
if the chicoms scrub these websites tomorrow, then it basically confirms it really interesting stuff, and the death numbers would match the fatality rate for Italy
Aaron Smith
they could just disconnect them from towers or block sims, not delete the accounts.
Ok but the earliest losses were for Unicom. Which isn't the top provider in Wuhan. So how does that make sense?
Gavin Russell
This is the other most plausible hypothesis for the sudden drop-off in cases. China allowed Corona-chan to spread through its population until it started taking off internationally, then dumped the cure into the drinking water. Their rivaling countries are weakened economically, China gets to buy up valuable strategic assets at a bargain and look good on the world stage for its efficient containment measures.
Jaxson Morgan
This is honestly worse than nuclear war.
Grayson Roberts
I agree with that, it certainly isn't as severe in adjacent countries like SK and Japan. You'd figure that those countries would be screaming for help if that was the actual death toll given the time frame, their methods of containment aren't nearly as severe as China's welding people into their apartments.
Nolan Stewart
You have to remember, China has a much larger population than the US and Europe. 1,433,783,686 was the number in 2019
Landon Peterson
and now they also send relief aid and experts to help governments contain the spread, undermining the American influence worldwide while it's busy fighting the epidemic in its own territory
Jace Kelly
if you cant go to work, how do you pay for your cell service?
Christopher Wood
They’re just the ones we caught tho...
John Gutierrez
Then they’re lying about things being back to normal
Jose Hughes
This is insane.
>I will win a fight by punching myself repeatedly in the head.
Seriously, the world doesn't work like that.
Evan Taylor
lol. You either don't know China or are a CCP. Shill. There is 0 chance that less than 4000 people died when they allowed this virus to spread throughout the whole country completely unchecked for a month without anyone even knowing there was an outbreak. In a country of nearly 1.4 billion people, where the hygiene conditions are atrocious and places like Shangai have over 10 million people use the metro in 1 day. No chance in hell that they have less deaths than Italy that only has 60 million people.
Luke Hall
Hi Chang
Leo Sanders
Plausible deniability is the key to economic warfare, especially in a globalized world. You have to find a way to weaken your opponents without giving them regress to punish you for it, keep public opinion on your side and so on. That aside, taking calculated losses that you expect to be compensated for isn't anything so new.
Mason Martinez
You thought those were temporary hospitals those bulldozers were digging eh?
Dominic Allen
This is a good post, I'll keep this in mind whenever I criticise the Chinese. Thanks for the kind insight user.
Luis Carter
>calculated losses
China's economy will take at least 18 years to recover to 2019 levels. That's not calculated losses, that's suicide.
If western countries are unable to get this crisis under control, they'll be hit way harder than China has been. Sure, China is taking some losses as well, but Xi Jing Peng isn't interested in increasing Chinas absolute wealth, he wants his country to have cultural, political, economic influence over other countries, and that war over influence is a zero-sum game. In that context it doesn't matter how much your economy suffers so long as you beat out your competition and become the new hegemon.
Lucas Perry
Not my claim.
Big brain plays.
Parker Kelly
It wasn't created in the Chinese lab, it was snuck over from a lab in Winnipeg by one of Chinese working there.
Grayson Green
>your national ID is bound to your mobile number account, wrong >it's a hassle in Mainland China because of that. wrong >the country's database, the mobile phone accounts are automatically cancelled. wrong
roundeyed and fearspreadpilled
Evan Jackson
They were burning bodies. We already know all the crematoriums in Wuhan were working 24/7 and couldn't handle the case load (remember the leaked call from the funeral home lady).
Later CCP sent 40 mobile furnaces to Wuhan (and presumably other cities):
I believe what they smuggled was an original SARS virus that they didn't have in China because they lacked proper facilities at that time. I doubt that fucking Canadians would modify an already lethal coronavirus to be even more dangerous.
>chloroquine >causes blindness. >ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4709532/ The study says that the main reason behind the blindness is because it's taken over the counter by Nigerians for literally years at a time. It also says in the article that overusing it is extremely common and it's often taken without seeking a medical professional first. Blindness is literally a non-issue unless you for some reason take it for years on end even after the sickness has gone away or you take 100x the recommended dose all at once.
Lincoln Wilson
holy fuck that's huge congrats user, keep doing the great job
Or maybe with the quarantine people aren't working which means no income. No duh people would try to cancel as much expense as possible.
Hunter Peterson
there gotta be a lot of natural deaths every month with over a billion people
Austin Wood
Then the Chinese are lying out of their asses about things being back to normal
Gavin King
Chinese shills are going into damage control mode
Daniel Gomez
This might be the dumbest comment in the entire thread congrats cletus
Jack Cox
>China would never lie to make themselves look better though they lied at the start until they couldn't anymore
Michael Watson
SHILL FRICK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Thomas Brown
Just jack off bro. Kill your shitty sperms and make new ones retard.
Joseph Morales
I just talked to my American friend who lived in Beijing for 4 years and married a Chinese girl and asked him what is going on over there
Andrew Hughes
aaand?
Jose Smith
and?
Joshua Nguyen
Oh shit the Chinks got to him
Adam Martin
all the shills bring up the diamond princess all the time fuck off with your diamond princess shit
Eli Long
Hasn't even been two months yet, so those accounts can't have been deleted yet. I even remember reading an article where the Chinese businesses affected by the quarantine were taking out loans so that they can pay their employees while the lockdown was in effect.
Isaac Morgan
But it says in the OP that they use their mobile accounts to pay for everything in China.
Alexander Morris
via telephone. this corona shit is getting serious.
The first link the base units are in thousands so its only -7254 less customers for February.
Second link is also in thousands so the difference again is only -1200.
The third link is the only one where the units are in millions and yes theres a -5.6m. However comparing December 19 to January 20 there was only a 430,000 increase and numbers were on a steady decline from September 2019. Is it not possible a new provider that offered better money for value came on the blocks during this time? Or some other valid reason for the decline of this companies numbers.
If I'm missing something can somebody please point out my mistakes.
Charles Ortiz
>the gweilo know
Eli Evans
It’s very different in China. OP is correct with regards to the mobile payment system there.
Samuel Jackson
I'm not good at numbers, but if people were disconnecting their old accounts and replacing it with better accounts, then the numbers should not have declined, numbers should have remained the same or even climbed higher since more people would have chosen the better value offer.
Andrew Miller
is it possible those accounts where held by entities outside of china?
Justin Kelly
The government uses mobile numbers to track people, surveil people, issue social credit scores, etc. so that seems unlikely.
Nathaniel Williams
That is becuz the US Gov kicked their Jounalists out and restricted them under 'Foreign diplomatic mission'
Shhhhhhh Let the Americunts stew in their stupidity
Matthew Butler
upper bound on possible chinese deaths is 50 million @ 3.5% due to long incubation period, it is unlikely that the entire population was infected, i estimate upper bound of 2% infected as of today.
at 2% infected that's 1 million dead. 100,000 if cases aren't being reported because they're usually mild. but 1 thing is certain and that is china's official numbers are bullshit
Lincoln Mitchell
True if big
Nolan Ramirez
>You're a fucking nutcase. No country would be able to hide 100k dead bodies let alone 14.5m, especially when the entire world was watching it. Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.
Jonathan Thompson
But in the OP, it's said that they use their mobile accounts for everything in China. I even read on some article back when this was all starting that the businesses affected by the quarantine were taking out loans to pay their employees so that they have some money for the next couple of months. It hasn't even been two months since the beginning of the lockdown, so those accounts should not have been deleted.
Also this: . China has even had gulags for decades and have been sending political detractors and anyone opposing the Communist regime to the gulags.
Kayden Garcia
bold of you to post that picture of yourself while calling other people retards
Justin Martin
Actual french frog expat living in china here.
Yes, CCP is definitely lying about the number of death, but I suspect most of these phone sub going out is because of the absolute massive hecatombe of chinese businesses. I would say that half the small businesses renting a shop space in China went bankrupt. Current projection of GDP is -33% for Q1 2020. Actual hunger is a serious concern, and even if the lockdown is basically lifted, the army/CCP is still mobilized and anyone spreading "disinformation" politely silenced. (like for example that what a coincidence that the most advanced chinese doing research on weaponized bat-borne coronavirus viral lab is a mere 20km away from the primary cluster of a bat borne coronavirus turned pandemic while several scandal of lab reseracher selling animal corpses to food market hapenned only a few years before).
I would say that half the population believe that trump did it, the other half doesnt care and only think about scamming the others in order to pay for food next week.
Juan Flores
maybe china made the corona virus to gain maximum power from the west. now chinese can buy cheap stocks, even cheaper oil and dollar, strategic sites etc...
Isaac Sanders
Just the flu bro, the Chinese have it all under control, they would never attempt to cover up the true numbers!
They are preparing themselves for the collapse of western hegemony
Adam Wilson
This. I mean, I always look at the Taiwanese and the people of HK as examples of what China can potentially be like. They're basically the same people, but without the retarded-ass communism.
Anthony Sanchez
Cont
Again, China is fucked because of the coronavirus fucking it's own economy, and then because no one is gonna want to deal with china with the anti-globalization movement that is gonna sprew as a consequence of the current crisis (Just look at 1929... Reaction in every fucking coutry was national protectionism)
The west is also fucked, because all the growth since 2009 was based on companies buying their own stocks thanks to easy money from the central banks, and now the market is correcting.
The Fed is gonna print 30 trillions of extra dollars over the next month, and is never gonna offload the assets.
That's more than two time the amount of repo of the last ten years... over a month.
The funniest in all of this ? It's not gonna inflate the dollar. Everyone is hard as fuck for the USD, because of it's utility value. When everything is going to shit, you want to sell sell sell so that you can buy the dip/TP/Food.
Corona-chan was not the trigger in the west. It's the oil price war. OPEC is fucked, Shale in canada/Us is fucked. FFS, candian baril went to fucking $5 today, and WTI hit below $20.
A bunch of boomers dying will also not impact the economy much (if anything, less leech and rent seekers). However, because everyone is looking at corona, it will have long lasting effect on politics and will push people to ask for stronger border, immigration control, currency sovereignity. I believe it could be the end of the EU in it's current form.
What's the story behind this table? Is it just bullshit fakery or is there some elaborate mysterious story behind it?
Juan Martin
based microwave death ray and corona catalyst
Henry Lopez
Agreeing with everything except >and will push people to ask for stronger border, immigration control, currency sovereignity Like people have a say in this...
Ryder Barnes
iirc it was a hack and it was fixed within an hour. I guess the official statement was haha silly hacker nothing to see here.
Ethan Adams
Did all the dudes on Chinese tinder look the same?
Jose Diaz
Ahh, so most likely accurate if true.
Nathaniel Torres
The only Wuhan has 11 millions of people, if just 10% of the poulation got sick, this is makes at least 1.1 millions of infected, if we calculate a 1% mortality rate there are at least 11.000 deads, but i doubt they managed to close the area before the virus spreaded in all china (since people infected spreaded all over china too).
Xavier Hill
If you all really wanna get info try finding an Army dude in S2 (someone has to have an army friend) and see if they have any info on China? Of course their intel is probably Chinese manpower... come on bro’s think outside the box here
Colton Long
>ever considering selling link >never gonna make it
15 million dead is a way more reasonable number when you consider they were mass deploying mobile cremation centers, and locked down a population greater than that of the entire USA.
Lucas Gray
This good find. China is probably about to execute every CEO of this company for not hiding this info. Such is the way of communism.
Logan Murphy
They were destroyong everyones phones in wuhan when it started getting bad and they started locking people up, there was a video and all of this happening.
Easton Bennett
The 3.4% CCDR as given by the WHO is derived from observations that include Chinese numbers, and has been consistently revised upwards as this has gone on; it was originally about 1% at the outset of WHO estimates Countries testing the population at large, and not just critical cases, seem to average out at closer to 5% If 1/4 of China's population got it, that's 350 million people With a 5% death rate, that's about 17.5 million That really doesn't make the 15 million number seem so far-fetched, especially when you consider that countries are outright stating that anywhere from 50%-70% of people could get infected
LMAO BRO FUNNY AF if I get China virus I’m partying harder and thinking of this post
Tyler Butler
And???? Come one asshole we’re all waiting
Cooper Davis
100k dead seems like a good ballpark, extrapolating from Italy's figures
Gabriel Taylor
literary Yas Forums the thread
Austin Perez
Thx
Levi Wilson
for 15 million people to die at a 3.4% death date, over one third od their entire country would have to be infected. We got a shitton of footage of Wuhan government activity. Wouldn't we literally see even more of that if China was trying to contain a nation wide epidemic?
Grayson Adams
m8 they quarantined 700M people and with how easy the virus spreads, it's perfectly reasonable
Brody Adams
Estimates in Europe and the US are projecting 60-80% of the population could get it
Ethan Reed
that's a lot of bats
Gavin Bailey
>slanty eyed bat eating insectoids Wow such originality, I hope your mommy's proud of you for coming up with that.
wait so they cant prank phone call or order pizzas to someones house because your national ID is tied to your phone?
Asher Edwards
people caught spreading info can be put to death or sent to labor camps
Ryder Parker
This, there's a reason why Hong Kong is one of the world's best economies
Asher Cruz
That didnt happen
Cooper White
I lived in China. You can buy sims in a street store easily. It's not tied to your Chinese ssn. WeChat is even free....
Jeremiah Clark
Why'd you live in China?
Leo Turner
you are right
Elijah Allen
you idiots are both right and wrong becuase you are arguing about two different things. chloroquinine has a range of side effects on many people and can be dangerous for some people depending on underlying condiitons and genetics. hydroxychloroquinine is much more benign and well tolerated but slightly less "powerful" against malaria yet it is universally preferred these days due to lower risk of side effects. almost nobody makes or prescribes chloroquinine anymore. hydroxychloroquinine has been the standard for a few decades now
of course every drug even the most common oones have risks and there will always be some people who have bad reactions and cant tolerate it but for most people hydroxychloroquinine is safe and well tolerated.
Cameron Jenkins
holy shit is this the product of millennial college indoctrination i mean education? google tiananmen square and mao tse dong idiot
Angel Parker
I WENT TO THAT EXHIBIT, they display real human bodies preserved with plastification. That image is the perfectly intact cardiovascular system of a real human head, capillaries and all
the bodies are purchased from china, who gets them by executing Uyghurs and people caught practicing Falun Gong
Chase Fisher
this so much. its biowarfare. and the italian retards are falling for the propaganda campaign
Gabriel Hernandez
So in china lives 1,4 bill people? If one in average live 70 years 1,4 bill / 70 = 20 million die naturally every year, 1 million 6 hundred die every month 55 thousand people die every day in China and that is naturally normal for 1,4 bill population. Can you see how many unsubscribes suppose to be by naturally cause with out virus swindle? So your numbers you stupid baboons show that market is not saturated yet. when you see 4 - 5 thousand unsubscribes because of natural death, only then you can declare that everyone in China have smart phone soon. It does not mean anything truth in this whole tread just agents misleading people , spreading fear... . do you know what gov fear ? we get together in to rule of the people (direct democracy) and first we will hang all representatives. Fear no one but God (if you dumb) or fear only to lie to the other people because we need hang fiew deceivers in public place and start hunting psychopath 1% medically incapable for compassion people, 'Fish heads' we use to club for everyone's safety. Just get together and look in to it who give orders find that dude and club it out! Any one who with out sincerity about own needs suggest to imagine for many people, We need identify clowns and club them immediately if we want to survive. oh you closed your business? Lead us to a person who delivered that order to you , if no wack dude out if Yes take next to responsibility for own actions. We need to purge gang of free masons and other gangs secret hand shakers . Everyone who does harm disturbances for peoples life just shoot in a head there is no time to wait . Other ways they will come with bamboozled youth in uniforms and will kill you. Kill every single leader delivering orders and telling to people what to do. Highest authority is we all gathered in a millions of meetings called Popular Peoples Congress where all our decisions will be made in the future. Point your guns to leaders, hang on the trees owners
Andrew Reyes
NO china has 1/5 worlds population 1.4 billion people . 1 400 000 000 (billion) milion is 1 000 000 Free masons jew servants steal from humanity only with imaginary space swindle $19.4 billion every year from tax payers pockets
Jose Hernandez
Some Twitter fag said it causes retinal damage. Not a good idea for us 4 eyed neets
Angel Brooks
Well said, hang the supreme leader and tear down those 5G towers
Levi Hughes
do you know that in china 55 000 people die evry day of natural cause because they have got population 1 400 000 000 (bilion people) one fifth of the worlds population. THEY LIE, STOP BELIEVE , CHECK EVERY SINGLE STATEMENT and it is time to hunt down deceivers it is a very small amount of lying agents that manipulate public, just find and club them and all thins swindle will be over. Lead me to the man that deliver orders to you or die by yourself
Having lived there, not only is every Chinese person glued to their phone constantly as well as phones being absolutely essential to life there now with mobile payments, but it's cheap as hell to have mobile service. Good quality phone service is like $8 a month. Even the dirt poor can afford that.
Dylan Ramirez
based useful OP. more threads like this less link dog shit