Why do liberals think Trump voters are opposed to the check?
>liberals think we’re not populist
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How the fuck is helping people survive a major crisis with a one time only $1000 socialism?
How is it not?
How is it not a capitalist government using its prosperity to protect its people?
It’s socialism as much as pumping the market is corporatism
technically it is a socialist program along with tons of stuff that already exists in every single government on the planet. why people fear the "socialist" word like some kind of boogeyman is the real mystery.
>he still takes anything related to Bernie Sanders seriously
We really need to bring Trump voters over to socialism as soon as possible, so we can outflank the dnc on all the left wing policies that are actually good
t. poplulist
This doesn't make sense .
#TheLeftCantMeme
>why people fear the "socialist" word like some kind of boogeyman is the real mystery
Brainwashed boomers.
why do you think we are trump voters
that's the plan. trump only met with Kim jong un to establish white juche for us all and destroy israel
Only Americans get the money so it’s National Socialism.
Because political ideology is gay as fuck and causes grid lock
on a basis where the government uses this policy consistently; it sucks.
if it helps the average person in the midst of a crisis; it does not.
why in the fuck do you think one VERY SPECIFIC instance has anything to do with socialism? if people are going to lose their jobs/homes because of government told them to stay home, why not help them out?
it seriously does not justify an ideology just because YOU think its similar. these people who get the money paid taxes in 2018, meaning its THEIR money.
youre a fucking retard that should be sterilized and not allowed to vote.
> you can only choose one truth
> two truths
It is kind of funny
You also don't understand what's being said.
>leftist detected
>mental retardation detected
>exitthread.Exe
Right wing socialism is a thing, libtards will never win an election once we evolve.
> Genders are equal
> There are more than two
Socialism with strong borders is amazing. Only whites? Even better.
Yeah sure as long as it doesn't turn us into more of a (((multicultural))) shithole. I'd compromise with lefties if they'd first agree to get rid of nonwhites in our nations.
it's literally national socialism
they will nationalize industries next, and we will manufacture everything here again. it's happening. history repeats, let's do it right this time.
THE MAJORITY OF BERNOUTS DO NOT KNOW WHAT SOCIALISM IS
IT LITERALLY JUST MEANS "FREE SHIT" TO THEM
Because it's the government distributing money to citizens.
>temporarily government assistants is the same as permanent government assistants
Retards.
People who think one fucking check is socialism really are stupid
What industries are being nationalized? Where’s the committee for central planning of the economy?
socialism is the strategy to nationalize all industries, power, and lifestyle
communism follows socialism and intends to break down all forms of "slavery"
distribution of wealth from a centralized manager is not a key tenant of communism or socialism because wealth itself is a form of slavery and must be abolished. the only function that distribution of wealth serves is the very first steps in nationalizing production. the ultimate goal is to abolish money entirely.
Liberals don't think. That's why they're liberals.
Cause you spend years calling niggers welfare queens to getting the same thing. Then use mental gymnastics to justify it for you.
If you ever lost it, you would go right back to calling blacks welfare niggers.
If it doesn't happen, you will blame jews and blacks with no evidence till there is a collage of cropped Stormfront articles that you think prove your point. It doesn't but it's enough to make most people think you are a lost cause and walk away.
Tl:Dr you are niggers and refuse to call niggers niggers.
If implementing only one or two key aspects of socialist policy does not warrant any comparisons to that ideology, Bernie Sanders does not fit the definition of ‘crazy socialist’.
It's called straw-manning, they male out everyone the right to be as retarded as our most retarded members (ancap libertarians) just as we make them all out to be as retarded as their commie Maoists.
If Bernie is a socialist for being a populist, you are too seems to be the logic?
see: socialists have blinded you to reality, they want power to destroy all institutions and they promise free shit in return for the intent destruction of society. go read up on communism abolishing all forms of slavery and ditch your shitty beliefs. specifically go read up on communism abolishing the concept of the family unit, if you think I'm joking then you shouldn't be afraid to check.
You are conflating communism with socialism. Communism seeks to abolish currency, socialism does not
socialism is ONLY the effort to nationalize every form of power in society, IN ORDER TO DESTROY ALL FORMS OF POWER. marx did not design socialism to be maintained, it's a revolutionary effort to overthrow all forms of slavery BY FIRST NATIONALIZING ALL POWER. it does so "by helping workers" to unionize and punishing companies into a submissive state where they may be easily nationalized, and spreading this theme of power overthrow across all power institutions.
socialism and communism both seek to destroy wealth because socialism is step one to the second step of communism. i implore you to actually learn about socialism and communism before you pretend to understand it.
That's communism. Socialism is just society. Things like roads, borders, healthcare, utilities, etc.
Welfare is not socialism, taxes are not socialism, socialism is when workers own the means of production.
Yep, Demsocs are uneducated losers and many haven't read a single word of Marx.
lolno
socialism is the effort to bring everything into public ownership. none of the things you mentioned are nationalized, and only roads and borders can be considered publicly owned (but that's taking huge liberties with the term public ownership, these things are still paid for by taxes, built/maintained from taxes and enforced through taxes)
even wikipedia will tell you you're a retard.
You need to read Mein Kampf again. And Spengler
Yes this is the biggest problem with MARXIAN socialism. It's not the economic policies of Marx per se. It's the fact that he comes from the position of wanting to destroy all institutions to do so and places class struggle as the main goal.
Hitler's revolution was from the position of being German, not just some laborer, and cleaning the state of moral maladies. The priority was the people, not a communist principle. This is one of the main reasons Stalin was so bloody.
I absolutely recommend reading Communist Manifesto to see what the enemy believes. Part 1 is the most right-wing shit imaginable. Part 2 and 3 is pure fucking insanity.
tl;dr Marxian socialism and German socialism have no relation whatsoever
So in your mind, communism doesn't exist, and there's nothing stopping the USA from adopting first world policies like national healthcare?
Idk. They're biggest insult is to call Trump supporters national socialists so who really knows what they're thinking.
Socialism is good when it’s based on race and you liquidate all the degenerates, cripples, and traitors.
Large-scale communism has never been achieved. There have only been socialist states.
both marx and hitler sought to nationalize industry in revolution/crisis, hitler just returned his country to capitalism once its production had been restored. natsoc is a revolution exactly like marx envisioned, but it was never meant to be maintained in germany.
distributing whos money? its just made up amounts
No, it isn't, Mugabe. Industry and economy is necessary.
You need to read Marx and Hitler. You have no idea what you are talking about. Fascist economics rely on corporatism (not corporatocracy) with state oversight. The world does not revolve around capitalism (a Marxian term) vs communism. Nationalizing industry is just an economic strategy. It doesn't have to be capitalist or communist.
>both marx and hitler sought to nationalize industry in revolution/crisis
To different ends. And there were commies in the Nazi Party. But again, they put class struggle over the people and they betrayed the movement.
>natsoc is a revolution exactly like marx envisioned, but it was never meant to be maintained in germany
That is factually untrue. That's like saying, oh well a revolution's a revolution's and we all know how commies love revolutions, so Hitler was a commie.
Come on.
communism is the intentional complete breakdown of society once all power structures have been nationalized. countries fall apart before they can nationalize everything because government bureaucracy ultimately fails in its intentions and people will overthrow the suddenly-powerful centralized authority commanding the power grab. socialism is the means to set the stage for communism.
nationalizing healthcare is a socialist policy, yes. but it's not a first world thing, go look up what countries have nationalized healthcare now and in the past. then you'll see you're a retard and everything you believe is a lie.
Socialism is how nations have always worked. Communism is separate, and only a few small scale places have worked with it.
>go look up what countries have nationalized healthcare now and in the past
Yea, all first world nations.
my favorite part about your post is how you didn't even read my post and you agree with most of what I'm saying while struggling to disagree.
maybe you don't like the idea that hitler followed marxist ideology to nationalize german industry, and that it was its own unique effort. frankly i don't care what you want to believe. you and i both see that it was necessary to restore the german economy. the only difference was marx wanted nationalization in order to destroy society, not restore order.
This is what your team has been saying for the last 100 years.
It's a small socialist program.
The problem is the government shutdown businesses in the first place (socialism). So now they have to correct that error with handouts (more socialism). I'm ok with this, but I'd prefer no government intervention at all.
your definition of socialism and communism have zero basis in reality. go find anyone that agrees with you who isn't a retard armchair politician and report back.
>every green country in pic related is first world
you're really fucking retarded aren't you
>socialism is the means to set the stage for communism
According to Marx. Fml. Marx socialism and National socialism mean different things.
>maybe you don't like the idea that hitler followed marxist ideology
He didn't. Like at all. Marx did not invent state intervention. Hitler was literally copying the Prussian model. Horseshoe theory is an overly simplistic understanding of what happened.
This guy is a great resource to understanding Third Positionism
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My definition which stipulates that they are in fact two different things? Yea, that sure is controversial.
But the words don't mean much to me. If you want to come up with a new one to define tax being used to pay for basic services, that's fine
>every green country in pic related is first world
Nope. But there's no first world nation without it.
>ruining your country so you can get your hands on $1000
just get a job you dumb cunt
it doesn't matter what actually informed hitler's deliberate efforts because hitler understood revolution, not maintaining society. his revolution rightfully failed.
you can believe what you want to. if you read what i say then it's clear that I'm not claiming hitler directly followed marx, in fact i don't believe he followed marx.
>My definition which stipulates that they are in fact two different things
no, your definition that socialism is just society. only a retard like you believes that.
>Large-scale communism has never been achieved
probably for a reason
hint: it doesn't work
>I'm not claiming hitler directly followed marx
>maybe you don't like the idea that hitler followed marxist ideology
>it doesn't matter what actually informed hitler's deliberate efforts because hitler understood revolution
Ok so what? American Revolution was a thing too. This is a non argument. This reeks of newfag repeating neocon talking points.
>his revolution rightfully failed
Wouldn't be because of a massive invasion or anything would it?
You've not made any claims other than socialism can only be defined by Marx. You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Please go watch that video and read up on NatSoc ideas. Wages of Destruction and Hitler's Revolution are good books.
>maybe you don't like the idea that hitler followed marxist ideology
i was accusing you of being intellectually dishonest by adding your own bias into the equation. i don't think it's worth my time continuing to discuss this with you, so tl;dr.
>Citizens pay taxes
>This functions as a communal fund
>In turn this pays for utilities, roads, defence, healthcare, etc.
Yea, I'm just crazy. Nowhere has ever worked like that.