ANTIVAXXERS WERE RIGHT
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Aaaaahhhhh yes
WE WON. NOT ONLY WILL OUR CHILDREN NOT BE AUTISTIC BUT WE WILL BE THE ONLY ONES ALIVE!
What's Corona virus? I just got out of the mental institution so fill me in. Do NOT ask me why I was in the mental institution.
Sauce on that?
>Flu shots make you more susceptible to coronavirus
>"Oh shit, hurry up where's my coronavirus vaccine!"
Is this adjusted for age/conditions?
It could, otherwise, be explained by the following:
>people more susceptible to the flu get flu shots more often
>people more susceptible to the flu are more susceptible to the coronavirus
Cft team?
I'm by no means an antivaxer, but I have never gotten a flu shot. Yeah, I'm thinking this is based.
Bruce Willis is that you ? Or brad Pitt?
WE ARE ALREADY ALL DEAD. THEY GAVE US THE CANCERS, THE VIRUSES, THE ALLERGIES. WAKE UP PEOPLE BECAUSE THE DEMONS ARE ON THE CUSP OF COMPLETE AND TOTAL DOMINATION. OH COME HERE LITTLE BOY, LET ME JUST POKE YOUR ARM WITH THIS VACCINE FULL OF DIFFERENT VIRUSES SO WE CAN EVOLVE THE SARS, THE MERS, H1N1, HIV ALL INTO ONE VIRUS THAT WILL WIPE EVERYONE OUT AAAAAAAAHHHH
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
why haven't you got a flu shot if you believe they are safe and effective?
Source?
He isnt wrong though. Like he is right a lot bro.
Searched and did not find this anywhere. It would have serious implications. Source?
>extraordinary claim
>sensationalist title
>no source
cool bait
Why where you there though?
Tell me in private chat, type >>
i dont get flu shots either, capitalist scam.
But i dont think they are some conspiracy apart from wanting to make money, and i think vaccines generally work when used appropriately
see >Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus
WHERE'S MY SOURCERINOOOO
OH NO NO NO
Vaxxerbros we got too cocky
the burden of proof lies with you
I only got the flu once when I was like 11 so it really just has never been something I am actively concerned about.
Oh fuck it's real!!!
No shit, we've been telling you that the aluminum adjuvant in vaccines fucks up your immune system and that there are NO studies confirming their safety.
>An adjuvant is an ingredient used in some vaccines that helps create a stronger immune response in people receiving the vaccine.
cdc.gov
What the fuck did you think STRONGER IMMUNE RESPONSE means? It means the adjuvant fucks up your cell-mediated (innate) immune system so that the adaptive immune system kicks in. Adaptive immunity is supposed to be a last resort of sorts.
How long does the adjuvant fuck up your cell-mediated immune system? No one knows, and they don't want you to question it. They just tell you it's "safe" without telling you about their biological half-life or long term endocrinological effects.
WHERE IS THE FUCKIN LINK FAGGOT
This is hilarious.
1st: They LIE about the flu numbers and deliberately inflate them to sell useless vaccines.
2nd: The flu shots RUIN your immune system.
Now:
Idiots cite FAKE flu numbers as a reason not to worry about the coronavirus AND the idiots who got flu shots are more likely to die.
Wow, ((( big pharma))) and their whores in government have completely fucked everything up with their flu hoaxing. The NPCs really are beyond saving.
Yas Forums in a nutshell
shit
>Virus Vaccinated (%) Not Vaccinated (%) OR (95% CI) P-Value
>Coronavirus 507 (7.8) 170 (5.8) 1.36 (1.14, 1.63)
Does anyone have that stupid Hollywood feminist complaining she’s treated like a sexual object and then posting her ass on instagram
IMAGINE MY SHOCK
What, it never struck you as weird that you can call kikes on their shit on Yas Forums, but even vaccines are off-limit? When even flat earthers are allowed and schizo posters are fine, you didn't find it odd at all that even remotely alleging that not all vaccines are perfect magical 100% success rate 0% side effect one-shot-for-life miracles from god is not permitted?
Thicc
No thinking allowed, goy!
Could be, but I'm sure it's legit. Cytokine storms...
Where’s the actual link faggot
ahahahahaa now its truly gonna be a boomer remover YEEHAAAA BOYS here we go
there's a pic of a post that talks about this phenomena of flu vaccines making you more susceptible to naive viruses
i don't have it saved though
Can someone neutral explain "antivaxxers" to me? Because from what I've read, some vaccines have been useful, and other vaccines have been not useful. Is anyone really an "antivaxxer"? Or is it just a bullshit media term like everything else?
Imagine getting a flu shot. Fuck that shit. The military uses the spray. I’m glad I haven’t had one in 4 years.
Pretty sure even if this is true, there will be a flurry of studies and stories to refute this, and condemn the study
>New Study Shows that Inhaling Oxygen Makes Recipients More Susceptible to Coronavirus Lung Infections
>Pretty sure even if this is true, there will be a flurry of studies and stories to refute this, and condemn the study
doesn't matter anymore, the vexxed will die
Same
We made it boys
>some vaccines have been useful, and other vaccines have been not useful.
Would you take a vaccine knowing it might not be useful at all?
good thing I didn't get literally any of them
might be bait thread seeking anons who brag how long it's been since having le flu shot
Guys, what if I never got the flu shot but got the tetanus shot 5 years ago? I'm 32, am I safe?
Yay I get to die now
The first few sets of vax are all you need. Tb, polio, mumps, tetanus, etc. Flu vax is definitely a scam and fear mongering.
good goy
Wait. Isn't this just because it's usually only old people that get flu shots?
Makes sense. I avoided the flushot, ended up with H1N1 and it was surprisingly mild, like a common cold
>Not dying from coronavirus
>Dying from the common fucking flue
KEK
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It's confirmed vaccines cause your eyes to bleed.
i've only had a couple. was going to get one this year because had a nasty flu years back.
but no one was selling any nasal shots.
then i learned it didn't even do shit this year. fuck that I'm not pumping mercury into my system to just get a 50% chance of reducing flu symptoms.
Is this because vaccines are weak viruses you have to fight and your immune system is compromised until you develop antibodies or is this saying that having gotten the flu shot and then fully recovering means you're more likely to get it?
Cause it sounds like it's the first one
>without
Depepnds on the type of antivaxer. Some antivaxers have it correct, in that there are some vaccines in America that increase the risk of autism and have harsh chemicals in them.
Some of the required vaccines sold in the US are banned or partially banned in Kikeland because they have carcinogens.
Healthy shots for me but not for thee, goy!
>proof/sauce posted in thread but user continues to be a clueless, lazy faggot as usual.
NO, but that isn't what I asked
kek
she must have taken all the vaccines
I've never had the flu and everyone I know who gets flu shots still gets the flu
OH NO NO NO NOOO
Conclusions
Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population. Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections.
p=0.60
Ok but you are an anti-vaxxer if you refuse to get a shot because you do not believe they will be worth the potential risk. You are right, the media has portrayed anyone who has questions or hesitations about vaccinations as 'anti-vaxx', which is the same as being a flat earther or a Nazi
NO IT WASNT SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN LIKE THIS. WHAT ABOUT MY BOAT?? WHAT ABOUT MY GATED COMMUNITY. WHOSE GONNA CLEAN MY MCMANSION WHEN IM GONE
>unsourced screencap
BASED
People getting flu shots are usually very fragile people because flu could be dangerous to them since they are well fragile.
Source: dude trust me bro
I could give her an injection she hasn't had yet.
>but it works goy, its "free"
Same boat, never had it, never go the shot but literally every single person I have met who got the shot had the flue within a day or two.
Flu shot is a fucking scam. I doubt its really about inoculation.
haha yes vaccine bad
>Wait. Isn't this just because it's usually only old people that get flu shots?
flu shot protects against flu, but makes you more susceptible to other virus, there's even a term for it, the original antigenic sin
garbage study, also has nothing to do with coronavirus
Vaccines work , but their mechanism behind why they work is also causing an increase in autoimmune disorders in the population. Also safety is questionable because companies have limited liability - cannot sue them in a real court, have to go through a "vaccine arbitration" court.
Vaccines could be safe and effective but I don't trust the government enough to blindly get a flu shot every year, ridiculous. People who say vaccines don't work do not exist, and those opposing science deniers are strawmanning the other side. Also there is bias in both dirrctions
Coronavirus isna big nothing burger and Donald Trump may or may not be working with Jesus by his side to take down the baby eating Satanic elite that controlled society. Welcome back to society friend.
>mentally ill german pushing drugs
It's so stereotypical that it actually hurts
sciencedirect.com
>he virus interference phenomenon goes against the basic assumption of the test-negative vaccine effectiveness study that vaccination does not change the risk of infection with other respiratory illness, thus potentially biasing vaccine effectiveness results in the positive direction.
vaccinated people were 33% more likely to get respiratory viruses than non-vacced
>age/conditions?
Age Group
0–17 1237 (42.9) 685 (21.1)
18–35 1074 (37.3) 1562 (48.2)
36+ 569 (19.8) 993 (30.7)
almost none of them were over 40
>temporarily
So this means flu shots just reduce your immune system for a short while after the shot? This is known already and not specific to cv
ADE in influenza and variants have been noted but few studies were properly done about seasonal flu variants.
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for example.
No surprise that it would have similar effects in the case of seasonal flu, and some studies have in fact shown results suggesting that (see "the Canadian problem").
>Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus
Learn to fucking read - viral interference is when on virus STOPs another coinfecting. The suggestion is vaccination against flu STOPS superinfection by coronaviruses...
underrated post
No source.
Is not a source for OP.
>One study in the United States found similar results [12]. The study found influenza vaccination was not associated with detection of non-influenza respiratory viruses [12]. Additionally, the laboratory data in our study showed increased odds of coronavirus and human metapneumovirus in individuals receiving influenza vaccination.
Retards will stop reading here. Meanwhile:
>The study finding similar results to our study found no association between influenza vaccination and RSV, adenovirus, human metapneumovirus, rhinovirus or coronavirus [12]. The same study did find a significant association between parainfluenza and influenza vaccination, but the association was in opposite directions when comparing children and adults [12].
Importantly:
>In our disease specific investigation, virus interference trends were noticed for coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, two specific respiratory viruses (parainfluenza and RSV) showed significant protection associated with influenza vaccine receipt, and all others tested (adenovirus, human bocavirus, and rhinovirus/enterovirus) showed protection, although non-significant, associated with vaccination (Table 5).
Highlighted for illiterates:
>In our disease specific investigation, virus interference trends were noticed for coronavirus and human metapneumovirus.
And what is viral interference?
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
>Viral interference is a phenomenon for which a cell infected by a virus becomes resistant toward a second outcoming infection by a superinfectant virus.
Translation into board appropriate 80IQ speak:
When specifically studying what effect the flu shot has on coronavirus and controlling for other factors, it is shown to have have a resistance trend due to viral interference.
OP's quote does not exist anywhere.
Checked! Corona virus is a term for how you feel after you drink way too many Coronas. It's why people are avoiding that brand.
>So this means flu shots just reduce your immune system for a short while after the shot?
yes, once the shot is no longer effective you return to normal
I wonder if having had pneumonia in the past will have an effect on it.
I had bad pneumonia when i was 8 or 9