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ANTIVAXXERS WERE RIGHT
Adam Walker
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Aaron Phillips
kek
James Watson
Aaaaahhhhh yes
Dominic Hughes
WE WON. NOT ONLY WILL OUR CHILDREN NOT BE AUTISTIC BUT WE WILL BE THE ONLY ONES ALIVE!
Luis Brown
What's Corona virus? I just got out of the mental institution so fill me in. Do NOT ask me why I was in the mental institution.
Brandon Cruz
Sauce on that?
Gabriel Stewart
>Flu shots make you more susceptible to coronavirus
>"Oh shit, hurry up where's my coronavirus vaccine!"
Cameron Adams
Is this adjusted for age/conditions?
It could, otherwise, be explained by the following:
>people more susceptible to the flu get flu shots more often
>people more susceptible to the flu are more susceptible to the coronavirus
Josiah Nelson
Cft team?
Gabriel Morgan
I'm by no means an antivaxer, but I have never gotten a flu shot. Yeah, I'm thinking this is based.
Nolan Flores
Bruce Willis is that you ? Or brad Pitt?
Ethan Edwards
WE ARE ALREADY ALL DEAD. THEY GAVE US THE CANCERS, THE VIRUSES, THE ALLERGIES. WAKE UP PEOPLE BECAUSE THE DEMONS ARE ON THE CUSP OF COMPLETE AND TOTAL DOMINATION. OH COME HERE LITTLE BOY, LET ME JUST POKE YOUR ARM WITH THIS VACCINE FULL OF DIFFERENT VIRUSES SO WE CAN EVOLVE THE SARS, THE MERS, H1N1, HIV ALL INTO ONE VIRUS THAT WILL WIPE EVERYONE OUT AAAAAAAAHHHH
Carter Martinez
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Asher Cruz
why haven't you got a flu shot if you believe they are safe and effective?
Blake Bailey
Source?
Sebastian Gomez
He isnt wrong though. Like he is right a lot bro.
Elijah Bailey
Searched and did not find this anywhere. It would have serious implications. Source?
Jaxon Richardson
>extraordinary claim
>sensationalist title
>no source
cool bait
David Hill
Why where you there though?
Tell me in private chat, type >>
Jonathan Murphy
i dont get flu shots either, capitalist scam.
But i dont think they are some conspiracy apart from wanting to make money, and i think vaccines generally work when used appropriately
Jaxson Morris
see >Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus
Kayden Perez
WHERE'S MY SOURCERINOOOO
Dominic Clark
OH NO NO NO
Vaxxerbros we got too cocky
Gavin Hughes
the burden of proof lies with you
Luke Myers
I only got the flu once when I was like 11 so it really just has never been something I am actively concerned about.
Aaron Bailey
Oh fuck it's real!!!
Colton Richardson
No shit, we've been telling you that the aluminum adjuvant in vaccines fucks up your immune system and that there are NO studies confirming their safety.
>An adjuvant is an ingredient used in some vaccines that helps create a stronger immune response in people receiving the vaccine.
cdc.gov
What the fuck did you think STRONGER IMMUNE RESPONSE means? It means the adjuvant fucks up your cell-mediated (innate) immune system so that the adaptive immune system kicks in. Adaptive immunity is supposed to be a last resort of sorts.
How long does the adjuvant fuck up your cell-mediated immune system? No one knows, and they don't want you to question it. They just tell you it's "safe" without telling you about their biological half-life or long term endocrinological effects.
Nathaniel Sullivan
WHERE IS THE FUCKIN LINK FAGGOT
David Cook
This is hilarious.
1st: They LIE about the flu numbers and deliberately inflate them to sell useless vaccines.
2nd: The flu shots RUIN your immune system.
Now:
Idiots cite FAKE flu numbers as a reason not to worry about the coronavirus AND the idiots who got flu shots are more likely to die.
Wow, ((( big pharma))) and their whores in government have completely fucked everything up with their flu hoaxing. The NPCs really are beyond saving.
Aaron Jenkins
Yas Forums in a nutshell
Kevin Edwards
shit
>Virus Vaccinated (%) Not Vaccinated (%) OR (95% CI) P-Value
>Coronavirus 507 (7.8) 170 (5.8) 1.36 (1.14, 1.63)
Dominic Adams
Does anyone have that stupid Hollywood feminist complaining she’s treated like a sexual object and then posting her ass on instagram
Brody Thompson
IMAGINE MY SHOCK
Dylan Stewart
What, it never struck you as weird that you can call kikes on their shit on Yas Forums, but even vaccines are off-limit? When even flat earthers are allowed and schizo posters are fine, you didn't find it odd at all that even remotely alleging that not all vaccines are perfect magical 100% success rate 0% side effect one-shot-for-life miracles from god is not permitted?
Nathan Cook
Thicc
Luis Long
No thinking allowed, goy!
Carson Roberts
Could be, but I'm sure it's legit. Cytokine storms...
Julian Gutierrez
Charles Cruz
Where’s the actual link faggot
Lucas Robinson
ahahahahaa now its truly gonna be a boomer remover YEEHAAAA BOYS here we go
Michael Murphy
there's a pic of a post that talks about this phenomena of flu vaccines making you more susceptible to naive viruses
i don't have it saved though
Juan Hall
Can someone neutral explain "antivaxxers" to me? Because from what I've read, some vaccines have been useful, and other vaccines have been not useful. Is anyone really an "antivaxxer"? Or is it just a bullshit media term like everything else?
Carson Green
Imagine getting a flu shot. Fuck that shit. The military uses the spray. I’m glad I haven’t had one in 4 years.
Nolan Johnson
Pretty sure even if this is true, there will be a flurry of studies and stories to refute this, and condemn the study
Aaron Hughes
>New Study Shows that Inhaling Oxygen Makes Recipients More Susceptible to Coronavirus Lung Infections
Oliver Bailey
>Pretty sure even if this is true, there will be a flurry of studies and stories to refute this, and condemn the study
doesn't matter anymore, the vexxed will die
Easton Nguyen
Same
We made it boys
Jason Rodriguez
>some vaccines have been useful, and other vaccines have been not useful.
Would you take a vaccine knowing it might not be useful at all?
Joseph Howard
good thing I didn't get literally any of them
Ayden Watson
might be bait thread seeking anons who brag how long it's been since having le flu shot
Zachary Ward
Connor Wilson
Guys, what if I never got the flu shot but got the tetanus shot 5 years ago? I'm 32, am I safe?
Jacob Allen
Yay I get to die now
Gabriel Clark
The first few sets of vax are all you need. Tb, polio, mumps, tetanus, etc. Flu vax is definitely a scam and fear mongering.
Adam Moore
good goy
Sebastian Watson
Wait. Isn't this just because it's usually only old people that get flu shots?
Mason Nguyen
Makes sense. I avoided the flushot, ended up with H1N1 and it was surprisingly mild, like a common cold
Logan Long
Brody Young
>Not dying from coronavirus
>Dying from the common fucking flue
KEK
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Alexander Sanchez
It's confirmed vaccines cause your eyes to bleed.
Logan James
i've only had a couple. was going to get one this year because had a nasty flu years back.
but no one was selling any nasal shots.
then i learned it didn't even do shit this year. fuck that I'm not pumping mercury into my system to just get a 50% chance of reducing flu symptoms.
David Nelson
Is this because vaccines are weak viruses you have to fight and your immune system is compromised until you develop antibodies or is this saying that having gotten the flu shot and then fully recovering means you're more likely to get it?
Cause it sounds like it's the first one
Dylan Green
>without
Depepnds on the type of antivaxer. Some antivaxers have it correct, in that there are some vaccines in America that increase the risk of autism and have harsh chemicals in them.
Some of the required vaccines sold in the US are banned or partially banned in Kikeland because they have carcinogens.
Healthy shots for me but not for thee, goy!
Adrian Harris
>proof/sauce posted in thread but user continues to be a clueless, lazy faggot as usual.
Ryder Rivera
NO, but that isn't what I asked
Samuel Miller
kek
Zachary Watson
she must have taken all the vaccines
Nicholas Long
I've never had the flu and everyone I know who gets flu shots still gets the flu
Luis Flores
OH NO NO NO NOOO
Ayden Nguyen
Conclusions
Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population. Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections.
p=0.60
William Bailey
Ok but you are an anti-vaxxer if you refuse to get a shot because you do not believe they will be worth the potential risk. You are right, the media has portrayed anyone who has questions or hesitations about vaccinations as 'anti-vaxx', which is the same as being a flat earther or a Nazi
Jaxson Watson
NO IT WASNT SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN LIKE THIS. WHAT ABOUT MY BOAT?? WHAT ABOUT MY GATED COMMUNITY. WHOSE GONNA CLEAN MY MCMANSION WHEN IM GONE
Adrian Powell
>unsourced screencap
BASED
Camden Jones
People getting flu shots are usually very fragile people because flu could be dangerous to them since they are well fragile.
Connor Smith
Source: dude trust me bro
Carson Hill
I could give her an injection she hasn't had yet.
Isaiah Rodriguez
>but it works goy, its "free"
Same boat, never had it, never go the shot but literally every single person I have met who got the shot had the flue within a day or two.
Flu shot is a fucking scam. I doubt its really about inoculation.
Ian Sullivan
haha yes vaccine bad
Jordan Lewis
>Wait. Isn't this just because it's usually only old people that get flu shots?
flu shot protects against flu, but makes you more susceptible to other virus, there's even a term for it, the original antigenic sin
Benjamin Reyes
garbage study, also has nothing to do with coronavirus
Chase Hall
Vaccines work , but their mechanism behind why they work is also causing an increase in autoimmune disorders in the population. Also safety is questionable because companies have limited liability - cannot sue them in a real court, have to go through a "vaccine arbitration" court.
Vaccines could be safe and effective but I don't trust the government enough to blindly get a flu shot every year, ridiculous. People who say vaccines don't work do not exist, and those opposing science deniers are strawmanning the other side. Also there is bias in both dirrctions
Easton Reed
Coronavirus isna big nothing burger and Donald Trump may or may not be working with Jesus by his side to take down the baby eating Satanic elite that controlled society. Welcome back to society friend.
Mason Wilson
>mentally ill german pushing drugs
It's so stereotypical that it actually hurts
Connor Roberts
sciencedirect.com
>he virus interference phenomenon goes against the basic assumption of the test-negative vaccine effectiveness study that vaccination does not change the risk of infection with other respiratory illness, thus potentially biasing vaccine effectiveness results in the positive direction.
vaccinated people were 33% more likely to get respiratory viruses than non-vacced
>age/conditions?
Age Group
0–17 1237 (42.9) 685 (21.1)
18–35 1074 (37.3) 1562 (48.2)
36+ 569 (19.8) 993 (30.7)
almost none of them were over 40
Angel King
>temporarily
So this means flu shots just reduce your immune system for a short while after the shot? This is known already and not specific to cv
Hunter Campbell
ADE in influenza and variants have been noted but few studies were properly done about seasonal flu variants.
lib.dr.iastate.edu
stm.sciencemag.org
for example.
No surprise that it would have similar effects in the case of seasonal flu, and some studies have in fact shown results suggesting that (see "the Canadian problem").
Ayden Sanchez
>Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus
Learn to fucking read - viral interference is when on virus STOPs another coinfecting. The suggestion is vaccination against flu STOPS superinfection by coronaviruses...
Joseph Torres
underrated post
Jason Sanchez
No source.
Is not a source for OP.
>One study in the United States found similar results [12]. The study found influenza vaccination was not associated with detection of non-influenza respiratory viruses [12]. Additionally, the laboratory data in our study showed increased odds of coronavirus and human metapneumovirus in individuals receiving influenza vaccination.
Retards will stop reading here. Meanwhile:
>The study finding similar results to our study found no association between influenza vaccination and RSV, adenovirus, human metapneumovirus, rhinovirus or coronavirus [12]. The same study did find a significant association between parainfluenza and influenza vaccination, but the association was in opposite directions when comparing children and adults [12].
Importantly:
>In our disease specific investigation, virus interference trends were noticed for coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, two specific respiratory viruses (parainfluenza and RSV) showed significant protection associated with influenza vaccine receipt, and all others tested (adenovirus, human bocavirus, and rhinovirus/enterovirus) showed protection, although non-significant, associated with vaccination (Table 5).
Highlighted for illiterates:
>In our disease specific investigation, virus interference trends were noticed for coronavirus and human metapneumovirus.
And what is viral interference?
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
>Viral interference is a phenomenon for which a cell infected by a virus becomes resistant toward a second outcoming infection by a superinfectant virus.
Translation into board appropriate 80IQ speak:
When specifically studying what effect the flu shot has on coronavirus and controlling for other factors, it is shown to have have a resistance trend due to viral interference.
OP's quote does not exist anywhere.
Jordan Baker
Checked! Corona virus is a term for how you feel after you drink way too many Coronas. It's why people are avoiding that brand.
Cameron White
>So this means flu shots just reduce your immune system for a short while after the shot?
yes, once the shot is no longer effective you return to normal
Isaac Flores
I wonder if having had pneumonia in the past will have an effect on it.
I had bad pneumonia when i was 8 or 9