Due to the nature of Chinese telecoms, your national ID is bound to your mobile number account, which is in turn bound to your Alipay account, the one-stop mobile app that manages all monetary transactions, including banking.
When phone number accounts are not paid for 2 months, they are automatically cancelled.
Here we see a drastic drop in mobile accounts in all major Chinese telecoms. China Mobile alone reports a disappearance of 7 million and 25 thousand. The actual number of coronavirus deaths may be up to 144,72,000 if we take the three major telecoms in China.
Or you know, people no longer need multiple phone lines when the economy is frozen. I have 3 separate cell phones because I'm in the real estate business.
Ethan Powell
they are gonna cover it up in china
Easton Stewart
All made up crap. The real real numbers are 7 and 3.
Anthony Baker
lmao fake and gay
Brody Miller
>multiple phone numbers No, your phone number is bound to your national ID in China. You're not allowed to not use your real ID and just buy numbers.
Andrew Morgan
It's definitely in the millions. Even if it's only killing 1% of the people infected, that would be millions throughout China. Crazy to think people believe that Italy has somehow surpassed China's numbers. It's impossible
Owen Moore
nice
Andrew Reed
Very cool thanks
William Turner
How many people die in China every month? I mean besides corona
Henry Watson
>going to they already did
Jose Davis
The drop could also be partially related to the economic impact of the virus.
Jayden Campbell
Even if you're having say 3 numbers due to business, the numbers being disappeared are still far too many for your scenario. We're talking millions here.
Aiden Phillips
a lot 1700 burgers die every single day just from heart disease
Camden Garcia
How do foreign national get phone number then? Especially those who left the nation when the news broke.
Nathan Wood
If you go and check all the previous months and years of data, you never see this sort of drop.
For comparison, Ukraine hasn't done a pop census since 2001 when they had 48 million but gov was saying until half a year ago that massive depopulation numbers are a lie.
Then people took the data on national electricity and bread consumption and came with a number of around 35 million.
Factor in normal rates of death by comparing past dates if possible. Subtract and get the answer
Jacob Russell
>China burns 14 million chink bodies >And will get away with covering it up Jeez it's almost unbelievable
Jaxon Roberts
so you estimate potential deaths to be over 14 million
Daniel Carter
Even if you account for foreigners and let's say 3 separate numbers because your business calls for it, you're still only decreasing the total number of cancelled phone numbers by a small margin.
Brayden Morgan
If you go and check all the previous months and years of data, you never see this sort of drop.
What are you going to do about it mutt? Nobody cares what you say, nobody will listen to what you say. We have won and we will replace you in your own countries. China forever
Asher Gray
A) China is being typical lying gooks and its completely out of control and in many areas of China with cases in the tens of millions, with hundreds of thousands of deaths, and growing.
B) China used its tyrannical government powers and sealed people off into their homes and arrested & execute anyone who broke quarantine so the numbers are actually real, they did managed to put a pause in cases spreading anymore
Brandon Baker
>posted from the epicenter of death how could the eu fuck their response up so much?
Liam Anderson
Thanks. Your reaction is a gauge for this finding.
Chase Anderson
Yea, but what is the exact figure? Natural death, fleeing foreigner and even Chinese national, along with the business phones that got shuttered because economy being frozen.
This is a classic case of correlation/causation problem.
Ayden Kelly
Post the underground body bag storage CHANG
Samuel Russell
these poor communist chinese probably just can't pay their bills because they're all broke as fuck now.
Michael Cook
>We have won Yes, the has won. China has lost and will dissolve into irrelevancy.
Christopher Robinson
I don't know the exact estimation, but it's definitely much higher than the official figures.
Jaxon Anderson
Or perhaps they couldn't pay because they couldn't go to work and as a result did not get a wage? Look for a spike in increase in a few months once more and more people start going to work.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if it numbered in the millions anyway.
Adrian King
take your medication schizo
Isaiah Scott
Is there any other data available that we can correlate to see if it’s people just not lying their phone bill or actual deaths? Like water water/power usage? I’m not a statistician at all so I have no idea how to crunch numbers to get a picture.
The people of a country experiencing economic downturn shut down extra accounts and work to trim the fat from their budgets as much as possible because they know hard times are coming. Phones might be cancelled because businesses are being shut down and/or offices are telling workers to use their personal phones for business rather than paying for a special work phone. Families might be pinching pennies and dropping an account for a family member that doesn't have a major need for it. Etc. Additionally many Chinese are probably quarantining in place and don't necessarily need to be paying for a mobile phone right now if they have a land line. It's certainly possible that many of these people are dead and the casualty numbers are lightyears more than we've been told, but I'd put things down to penny pinching due to the economic downturn.
Xavier Nguyen
You have to understand how mobile numbers are used in China. It's bound to your bank account even. If you lose it you lose access to Alipay, which is basically how the Chinese pay for everything from chewing gum to haircuts to groceries.
People don't just cancel their phone numbers because of that.
Camden Richardson
When I lived in China, someone where I worked just let me borrow one. I was very careful with what I used it for of course, just the basics.
Asher James
even if they account for foreigners, there's only like 40k foreigners in china at any given time.
Carson Thomas
You have to understand how mobile numbers are used in China. It's bound to your bank account even. If you lose it you lose access to Alipay, which is basically how the Chinese pay for everything from chewing gum to haircuts to groceries.
People don't just cancel their phone numbers because of that.
David Rodriguez
I see. 7 million really a fucking lot more than I expected. But yeah we know from Italy the death rate is way higher than we were led to believe from the China numbers.
Kevin Price
400k* I forgot a zero, just one zero. I wonder how many zeroes the CCP has dropped from their totals.
Easton Morales
it's interesting how people keep coming in here with "no it's just because they don't have much money, shut up REEEEE" despite honkongbro repeating over and over that it isn't how it works, almost like some kind of chinese shill army that gets payed 50 cents a post to try and make people not know what's happening.
Ryder Ross
Or you can go and check the data published by the Chinese telecoms themselves.
Jack Flores
>China and Italy >no mention of South Korea
Thomas Lewis
ples show chart for the last years
Asher Morgan
You also have to understand how mobile numbers are used in China. It's bound to your bank account even. If you lose it you lose access to Alipay, which is basically how the Chinese pay for everything from chewing gum to haircuts to groceries.
People don't just cancel their phone numbers because of that. Even if you change your mobile phone number it's a hassle in Mainland China because of that.
Juan Turner
This is what we have to do to squeeze real numbers out of the CCP because they sure as shit aren't forthcoming and sure as shit they never will be.
Mason Foster
nice information wild range chinese, this might be one of the good ways to find the numbers, better than believing their numbers
Charles Allen
What about South korea?
Andrew Foster
Few years ago it came out that SK was literally being run by a shadow government of elite shamans. But sure, they're probably on the up and up now right?
Juan Nelson
Here's 2019 for China Mobile. As you can see, no dips at all.
Or you know, extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence that isn't just drawing a conclusion from a data set.
I have no doubt that their deaths is higher than what the official figure is. But in the millions? You will need some pretty convincing evidence for that.
Jeremiah Reyes
>>China burns 14 million chink bodies >>And will get away with covering it up >Jeez it's almost unbelievable Well, it WAS noted from satellite observation that a huge increase in the burning of biological material took place (somebody needs to check if it's still elevated), and we DID get leaks from inside China that they were open burning masses of bodies.
Dylan Morris
It's good that they swarmed this thread. Pic related.
Yep. Can confirm. Interesting thread OP. Many reading this won't understand how these things are tied together. Mobile phone is inextricably linked to your finances, your life. If your phone stops showing up that's a real bad sign for you.
Josiah Hughes
They're below 1% mortality rate with blanket testing
So maybe people stopped paying because their economy shut down?????
Carter Cook
This data set needs to become part of the pastebin copypasta used for the /cvn/ threads
Mason Wright
Yea, nobody on Yas Forums knows we've been flooded with Chinese shills throughout this mess...
Robert Edwards
I'm reposting this many times now, but just in case you didn't see it:
You have to understand how mobile numbers are used in China. It's bound to your national ID, and it's bound to your bank account even. If you lose it you lose access to Alipay, which is basically how the Chinese pay for everything from chewing gum to haircuts to groceries. It could be said that to survive at all in China, you need your personal mobile phone number.
People don't just cancel their phone numbers because of that. Even changing your phone number is a huge hassle.
Luis Johnson
How does this make any sense? The lock down wasn't even close to two months old in February.
Hunter Ortiz
You are onto something. Take good care fren. You know the law of the jungle. Take good care. Gather as much information and then spread it.
William Lee
Even if they were out of work, they would be on some form of public assistance, and would need that account to utilize the dough. They pay for everything utilizing that account.
Oliver Collins
Yes, but you have to remember that the supposedly earliest case was in November.
So if you plot the infection curve from other countries, and then paste that into China, you'll see how by Feb we have quite the problem, especially with all the covering up they had initially.
Jaxson Parker
What do the average monthly totals looks like?
Jeremiah Nelson
Save webpage? Or just screenshot everything + waybackmachine.
Jaxon Hernandez
Do you know of a single person who cancels their cell phone contract because they’re sick? Doesn’t even make sense
Jonathan Watson
See for China Mobile's 2019 data. (And all other years as well, see the links)
Kevin Cooper
They killed over 100 million in the 20th century. This is child’s play for them
Dou you wanted to write „144,720,000“ oder „14,472,000“?
Kevin Cooper
C) China used it’s tyrannical government powers and sealed people off into their homes and arrested & executed anyone who broke quarantine but they had already failed to contain the outbreak and its completely out of control and in many areas of China with cases in the tens of millions, with hundreds of thousands of deaths, and growing.
Here’s your most likely scenario.
Benjamin Perez
14 million isn't even 10% of the US population. china's population is like almost a billion or some crazy shit, it is nowhere near the realm of the extraordinary to think 14 million chinks died from a plague that has been fucking them up so hard that you can actually see the sky in china.
Carson Bailey
Two of the three major telecoms are now archived on Wayback Machine (China Unicom doesn't seem to work):
Sorry, I meant 14,472,000 Anyway, you can just add the three numbers up yourself.
Carter Nguyen
There’s nothing extraordinary about millions of dead chinks. They kill off large amount of their population all the time but it doesn’t matter cause there’s over a billion of them.
