I get where they're coming from, that people not gathering really is the best way we have to stop the spread of COVID-19. That doesn't change the fact that it's unconstitutional, and that they made such gatherings punishable by fine and/or imprisonment. I want to make sure people are aware of this. What do you guys think?
Isn't the LA order prohibiting assembly of 10 or more people unconstitutional?
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Yes.
States of emergency expand government powers. If you get ticketed, feel free to take it to court.
ITS SPREADING TOO QUICKLY, THE QUARANTINES ARE BEING IGNORED AND RENDERED INEFFECTIVE, WE ARE ON TRACK FOR THE ABSOLUTE WORST CASE SCENARIO, ALL INDICATIONS POINT TOWARD WORLDWIDE MASS FATALITY AND INSTABILITY, SAVE YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY!!
>ITS SPREADING TOO QUICKLY, THE QUARANTINES ARE BEING IGNORED AND RENDERED INEFFECTIVE, WE ARE ON TRACK FOR THE ABSOLUTE WORST CASE SCENARIO, ALL INDICATIONS POINT TOWARD WORLDWIDE MASS FATALITY AND INSTABILITY, SAVE YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY!!
ITS SPREADING TOO QUICKLY, THE QUARANTINES ARE BEING IGNORED AND RENDERED INEFFECTIVE, WE ARE ON TRACK FOR THE ABSOLUTE WORST CASE SCENARIO, ALL INDICATIONS POINT TOWARD WORLDWIDE MASS FATALITY AND INSTABILITY, SAVE YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY!!
Yes
Gun owners need to
Do something about it
Do states of emergency allow governments to ignore the constitution?
wrong
correct
Yes. Basically.
yes
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>Congress shall make no law
Congress isn't making a law, it's the executive branch using temporary emergency powers.
incorrect.
correct.
Yup.
They ignore the Constitution whether there is an emergency or not.
We are under Martial Law now. Constitution suspended.
During the Civil war was the first time wartime emergency powers were used. Lincoln used it to jail journalists and take property.
Fight back
>I’m not permitted to gather in groups of ten or more for wine tasting sessions and basket weaving classes.
>I now care about the constitution of the United States.
Supreme Court has ignored "freedom of assembly" because it also means the freedom to discriminate against niggers, jews, faggots, women, etc.
>Time, place, and manner restrictions are permissible so long as they “are justified without reference to the content of the regulated speech, . . . are narrowly tailored to serve a significant governmental interest, and . . . leave open ample alternative channels for communication of the information.”
>Ward v. Rock Against Racism, 491 U.S. 781
State of Emergency wipes its ass with the constitution, user.
Does this mean I can rape women ?
Well I think you already know the answer to that judging by your OP. Is this violation of constitution illegal? Yes. Do they do it anyway? Yes. Is anyone going to stop them? I don't know, are you?
Where is it written that emergency powers let the government ignore the constitution? I cannot find that written anywhere.
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It's not written anywhere, user. Here, let us make it very clear for you. The constitution is supposed to be followed. That doesn't mean it WILL be followed if no one is enforcing it. So tell me user, if the government chooses to ignore the constitution, who is going to stop them?
If it was written in the constitution that the government could ignore the constitution then they wouldn't be ignoring the constitution, now would they?
Why do lolbertarians forget that they're part of a tribe? Unless you're secluded from society, you will be expected to contribute at times for the common good. If being told to stay home to stop the spread of a pandemic triggers you then the tribe has every right to put you down.
How do you think Hitler seized power, goy?
Article I, Section 8
Constitution is a guide that we must all follow, not rules that you are forced to follow. However, if we stray from this guide, we will collapse. Guess what is happening right now?
Is Puerto Rico part of the American tribe?
All wrong.
There is no "emergency" exception written into the Constitution. Many unconstitutional laws say that in an "emergency" this or that can be done, but these laws are illegal. It's all a bluff.
You nigger, the elastic clause says the government can do whatever the fuck it wants at any time
It’s been a pleasure shitposting with you gentlmens all these years
Ask the charred remains of the branch dividians how they rate the government's compliance with their "rights"
Niggers itt who think the bill of rights is the constitution.
>Isn't the LA order prohibiting assembly of 10 or more people unconstitutional?
Niggers and spics do not care about the Constitution.
Yes, but if you actually.care you are a fucking idiot
Go jerk off over your constitution in an oven you disease carrying scum.
Do americans really believe that no changes should be made to ways of live in an emergency situation?
Arson is against the law, it damages people and property. I don't see why neglegence with a virus should be any different.
I like to tell people I’m Branch Dividian when they ask what denomination I am. If I get a weird look I know they’re well read.
Fuck you and your (((tribe)))
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Depends on what ways exactly they decide to not follow it. I'm just asking from a technical legal standpoint though. My question is, if someone were to take a stand against this order, would they be able to logically use the written law to back them up? Or could the county say, "No, actually, since we're in a state of emergency, the 1st amendment doesn't apply, and I have this written law to prove it"?
I intend on following the order anyways as it's a good idea from a health perspective. The problem would be if they started to use stuff like this to push something more like real authoritarianism, and there was actually a cause to stand against them. Better to make the line clear before it becomes a critical matter.
I'm assuming you're referring to the constitution.
constitutionus.com
Article 1, section 8 of the US constitution says nothing about being able to ignore the US constitution or about emergency powers.
You odious nigger-brained dunce, listen to what our esteemed President William Howard Taft said:
>“the President can exercise no power which cannot be fairly and reasonably traced to some specific grant of power or justly implied and included within such express grant as proper and necessary to its exercise.” In his view, such a “specific grant must be either in the Federal Constitution or in an act of Congress passed in pursuance thereof. There is, no undefined residuum of power which he can exercise because it seems to him to be in the public interest.”
can't have your obviously unconstitutional order declared unconstitutional if you ban the courts from meeting
I've never considered that, what a great litmus test to weed out the sheep.
Truly sad that most people my age have no clue about that event. And most that have an ounce of knowledge only know of the official narrative.
The President isn't shutting down states, retard. It's the Governors are.
Whether the constitution should be changed or even totally done away with is certainly something that could be considered, but it actually can't simply be thrown out at first inconvenience. The issue with this Order isn't that it's a bad idea health-wise, because it is a good idea health-wise, but that it violates a deep part of our law that was created to protect us from tyranny. Negligence with a virus can kill people, so maybe it should be made illegal and punishable. Not allowing people to gather in assembly against a tyrannical government can also kill people, and put people into poverty, and so it's been illegal to make that illegal for a few hundred years in America. It's important to be ready to change as the times change, and it's just as important to know what shouldn't change.
>trying to justify welding people inside their homes
The government doesn't have the power to enforce any of these edicts they are declaring. Do whatever the fuck you want. Raiding parties are forming now. Shut everything down and we will take it.
It is part of the constitution you absolute fucktard kike jew
Oy vey, it all makes sense now!
>esteemed President William Howard Taft
kek, no. he was one of the worst and most retarded presidents in history. he came in 3rd when he ran for re-election (only time that's ever happened)
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fuck off kike
Yes, and if they actually enforce it they'll have to pay out millions in civil rights lawsuits, in 5 years.
This is the sort of shit you get when you vote yourself into being disarmed and have to rely on big daddy government for everything, especially protection, once you've voted in unlimited hordes of 75 IQ illegal immigrants and their welfare anchor babies.
Fuck California, hope it rots.
arson may be illegal, but its a really efficient way of burning down your institutions.
Where are the gun-toting rednecks who are usually so eager to defend the constitution from big government?
With the quarantine and everything I always imagined chunks of America will start to actually fight back with their right to bear arms.
we're right here, ready to kill tyrants. And, they're itching for it.
No one's been welded in Vietnam, it was contained early on. Foreigner shits from us and EU brought more cases in.
>Not an argument
So is allowing a virus that hospitalizes was more than your capable of handling to spread uncontrolled.
At some point, you have to have a bit of faith. A pandemic like this is one of the few things you actually do need to rely on governments for, as much as libertarians would hate to admit it. Borders need serious control, people may be forced into quarantine and whole areas may need to quarantined infringing the rights of some in order to maintain the country.
>So is allowing a virus that hospitalizes was more than your capable of handling to spread uncontrolled.
I dont know anyone with corona or anyone who knows anyone with it. As far as I am concerned it is a hoax and a pathetic attempt by an impotent government to attempt a coup, but I know they're going to be slaughtered if they fucking try so I don't worry even a little.
Where?
Several places have ordered quarantine and shut down places of business over there.
They couldnt shut us down so they shut the whole world down around us. We're still engaged in battle.
You deniers are worse than flat earthers at this point. I hope at lease you are taking precautions and making sure your elder relatives have supplies they need so they don't need to go out and can stay relatively isolated.
And now no jury can possibly be convened in LA or NYC.
It's coming.
Sadly, this.
I'm pretty sure he's just doing an internet tough guy, if police comes and tells him to go home, he'll go home.
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>Oh no this piece of paper says we can't do it
lol. Imagine if Yellowstone was set to erupt in a month or something and you said forcing everyone to evacuate was unconstitutional.
Honestly people in general are fucking disgusting and they need to stay home. Virus or not, learn some fucking basic respectful human hygiene. Like fuck, cover your damn cough and wash your hands. Learn how to be a civilized human in 2020
But nah everyone doesn’t give a Fuck and it’s stupid af. Careless self absorbed selfish assholes.