The virus itself has an extremely low death rate (around 0.2% for those without any pre-existing conditions or are under 60). We can protect those people who are the most vulnerable from the virus WITHOUT causing massive economic damage. Countries that have imposed a quarantine or lockdown must immediately cease their extremely destructive policies that are causing more harm than the virus itself. Kids need to go back to school, businesses need to re-open. People spreading harmful rumours and hoarding toilet paper need to be prosecuted. It’s time for some common sense.
Coronavirus alarmists need to be shot
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>11% of infants are hospitalized
>6% of 1-20 are hospitalized
>10% of 20-40 are hospitalized
nothing to worry about bro
>(around 0.2% for those without any pre-existing conditions or are under 60)
First of all, that figure is from Chinese data. Second, the TOTAL death rate for the seasonal flu is 0.1%, so the death rate for healthy people under 60 is an even tinier fraction of that. Third, you're ignoring the fact that an overwhelmed healthcare system will lead to even more unncessary deaths (such as you getting run over by a truck of peace and not able to receive emergency care). Last, but not least, there are reports of younger people who recover having permanent lung damage.
In conclusion, we need another potato famine.
>hospitalized means you're dead
Let's shoot this retard first.
It means an overwhelmed Healthcare system and increase deaths once there's no more hospital beds you fucktard
Hi boomer/gen x'er... tick .... tock.... tick... tock
>hospitals are full (very realistic scenario)
>11% of infants die
>6% of children die
>10% of young adults die
>just a flu bro nothing to worry about
>10% chance for young adults to get severe pneumonia
>nothing to worry about bro
leafs and foresight lmao
Hospital beds aren't even required for this flu. Majority of cases are being sent home to recover and quarantine, literally just a cough and sniffles. Only the extremely old need the beds to survive.
why are you commenting on shit you have no clue about? i literally just told you how many % are HOSPITALIZED WHICH MEANS VENTILATORS/ICU BEDS you fucking retarded nigger
You do realize hospitals aren't treating this virus right? They can only quarantine a person for a bit to monitor symptoms then discharge them, it's old seniors who were already dying that need beds and have breathing problems. Young people already being sent home to quarantine en masse is happening. ZERO fatalities from ages 0-9. Take your meds schizo.
you are literally retarded, beyond salvation.
>all the smokers and AIDs carriers are now requiring hospitals to save them
99% of Italians hospitalized and dying already had SEVERE underlying health issues. Look it up. The 99% isn't even a joke.
>t. old fuck or loser with nothing to do in life
You're gonna die boomer.
i'm fascinated how stupid someone can be.
are 11% of infants and 6% children are hospitalized you dumb retard, nothing to do with chain smokers and aids carriers.
once hospitals are full they cannot help those who need special care (11%, 6%, 10%).
this means the date rate is going up by those exact numbers.
how do you manage to turn on your machine when you can't understand something this simple?
they're treating the respiratory problems (pneumonia) that arise in some small % of people after the virus
this pandemic has shown that plenty of people, some worth billions, some with PHDs, and some with MDs, fail to project changing circumstances into the future, it's all "the now" for them and all they can do is project further "the now"
it's the difference between thinking 2,000 hospitalizations can turn into 20,0000 by the end of the week and 100,000 by the end of the month
and
thinking 2,000 hospitalizations every week aint so bad
Italy is the worst case scenario and has been at capacity for over a week and not a single reported death due to overcrowding much less a epidemic do you know how many accidents and or regular visits the get a day....
The issue not materializing
> for over a week
>The issue not materializing
lol
we can possibly be months away from peak infection rate
No they don't bud in America for instance only 12 percent under 50 went to be ICU tons ess a regular care quarantine and the bulk infected in that group stayed home and got better with medicine.....
The majority of people will have less then a percent chance to die and can weather it at home this is reality
Where are your figures first second
Italy has been at capacity for a week and not a single death due to overcrowding you also seem to not understand how triage works
>bloomberg
I noticed these fucks are all over the place including john hopkins
Bud your narrative is all over the place
Hospitals in every country get hundreds of accident and regular visits a day yet italy has no capacity for a week and not a single preventable death is reported
The math does not add up and u brought infections back up for some reason when as I said the majority of people will have a one percent chance of dying and or need a a bed even and u suggested overcrowding will cause issue and got btfo
>Implying the government could run anything
How will Trumptards ever recover when it is proven in a few weeks that corona is literally the normal flu? If the annual lung illnesses are not higher than in every other spring, then you alarmists are fucked. And they won't be higher.
Dude those are weak examples, the best ones to give are Diabetes and Cardiovascular issues. If you have either of those comorbidities it's a flat out 10% CFR, forget the number needing to be hospitalized. Conservatively, in NA 25% of our adult population have either both, or one of the conditions above. We could easily lose a good chunk of our seasoned workforce to this.
So many people go to the hospital because of the alarmists retard. If they wouldn't hear each hour they could die because this crap they wouldn't go to the hospital and be just fine.
Trump told us it was the flu....you guys need to get your narrative together before you start pretending the leftist shills were calling it nothing lol
Either take your meds or kys you retarded gullible schizo.
Nope again in Italy 99 percent of the dead were 60+ with 2.7 prior health issues
And no no amount of memes will make the average American being as unhealthy as the average italian SENIOR CITIZEN a reality
I know but he caved in the end. I am not saying it would have been easy to do the right thing, but he didn't, he caved.
Maybe you should consider the fact that the decision makers have information you don’t, like it isn’t curable, causes permanent damage, and is eventually 100% lethal? Maybe we get a nice 4-6 weeks with our loved ones before it all ends anyhow. You don’t have loved ones? Well then KYS faggot
The death rate is actually smaller than that because they are only using confirmed cases. When they calculate death rate for the seasonal flu, they use estimated cases as well.
86% of coronavirus cases are asymptomatic. So the death rates you are giving are literally only actually 14% of that.
>0.2%
>obvious nothingburger faggot
The death rate is actually 109% and predicted to go higher
Actually 98% were at or above the age of 81.
This is just one of the worse types of flu, usually not really newsworthy.
But the elite is using it to lock us all down and wreck the economy.
did you mistake my posts for someone else's?
I don't think you're following
You suggest that italy is the worst case scenario and that they have been at capacity for over a week with no problems
I say that this isn't the worst the pandemic can get [because the rate of infection is likely to keep going up]
????
Nope he still is downplaying it versus the left
For instance the 18 months figure they pushed out yesterday and fucked the market more after trump successfully implanted it would take two months to three
Keep trying you won't win this
Maybe you are just full of shit?
Sit down Bill Gates
So this really does have the potential to just wipe out the entire boomer generation doesn’t it? They own about 80% of the real estate market, what happens to all that once they’re gone?
needing hospitalization and not having capacity for it could quite likely result in death. Yes. dumb leaf
They are probably trying to create a new, even more totalitarian system out of this.
Smaller countries often just go along with it because they don't know shit and just follow the big ones along.
This the MAJORITY of infected will be able to ride it out with medicine at home if they haven't done that already and anyone under 45 around the GLOBE has less than a percent chance of death
Most of these people won't be dying when shit hits the fan and will be given beds over people who are 70+
Because it has the same death rate like the annual flu. (Pro tip: it is the annual flu)
>pre-existing conditions
There are TONS of peoples with pre-existing conditions, dumbass. Asthma, diabetes, cancer etc, you might not even know you have one.
Hate to break it to you, but young people always were given hospital beds over old people unless the old person is famous or rich.
And I say you have no data and the current data trends to it being low mortality and overcrowding is not causing viral surges or unrelated deaths especially knowing most infected won't even need a hospital
Your entire post takes real data and says nuh trust me bro I know better with no figured or shit to support it lol
It’s all social engineering. President wants the economy to crash and burn then he’s gonna somehow use this to his advantage before/if he leaves office in 2021..... gonna use it for bargain stock maybe???
He’s already filthy stinking rich though...
When people are hospitalised that means 1) they take up ICUs 2) they take up resources 3) they use up doctors/nurses.
There are limits to every system and this virus could easily surpass the limits of Western health care systems if it spreads too quickly. Death rate of the virus is not the concern, it's the infection rate and need for long term hospitalisation for a large percentage of the infected.
This is prob not far from the numbers for actual flu tho. If it's even real the only reason Corona is slightly dangerous is because it's basically the flu but we havent built immunity to it yet, so people who would die to the flu are gonna die to it.
>tl;dr dont be fat, old, or sickly
>not a single death due to overcrowding
80+ people weren't getting hospital beds then so many more people got hospitalised that they had to stop treating anyone over 70
Could but for over a week now Italy has dealt with this situation and have had zero preventable deaths reported so idk why the fuck you want me to get worried about to so bad lol
They aggressively hospitalised too many people, even today this is being done.
Most people with corona in hospital would have no business being there.
Agreed. Once the virus is somewhat under control, the MSM could then create a panic over food borne illness & deaths.
"CDC estimates that each year 48 million people get sick from a food borne illness, 128,000 are hospitalized, and 3,000 die." U.S.
Hospitals aren't usually at 200% capacity and no hospitals aren't regularly being run as triage tents
this thread is proof that all of humanity deseves to die.
Yeah bro they just intubate the guy who has a fever
Fucking moron
As they should be and the mortality rate for them below 45 is near zero lol
This is why the narrative it's going to blow up is btfo
We have south Korea and Italy the best and worst case scenario and neither are noticably deadlier then the other by age and every country who tests more lowers their mortality rate literally as pen hits paper this is a global trend
Knowing thsj the shills switch to overcrowding and now we are here Italy with zero deaths after a week of the worst overcrowding to date
Kek my roommate thinks the gym is going to be reopened next week
No, they have people without fever lying in hospitals, people who feel well.
What about this report made by the CDC huh ?
cdc.gov
Don't you understand that the young respond way better to treatment compared to the old and that means that they won't die as much ?
Oh wait.
We don't have enough beds for everybody, right Giuseppe ? What happens when the younglings in need to be hospitalized don't receive any treatment ?
We know how many are in the ICU bud and in he us for instance it's only 12 percent people under 60
Being hospitalized can mean quarantined in the hospital you retard
>He thinks laboratory confirmed cases are the actual cases.
>He believes China and their WHO puppets when they say China didnt miss any cases
The confirmed number : actual number ratio in most countries is about 1:20 or even higher.
Italy had like 450 people die today, what the fuck are you talking about
>low death rate
>stock market still crashing
>deaths are anonymous
>tfw the few who die had actually big pull on the market.
Thousands of people die in Italy every single day of all kinds of illnesses.
This is just a bad flu season blown out of proportion for political and economical purposes.
Witch means with triage everything I said is true and the death rate for anyone under 45 is near zero and this is a fucking nothing burger that will kill of alot of 80+ year olds by your own worst admission
Lmfao
Nigger there are no medications to treat this so stop talking out your ass.
Pretty much, little was known at first, now that people know it's just a flu they are literally sending everyone home to recover as if it's just a regular cough. It's nothing.
There are people in beds who are quarantined the fact is the majority of infected WONT NEED A HOSPITAL
THIS A FACT
[citation needed]
Nowhere in there did you refute my point that hypertension, diabetes, or cardiovascular problems raise CFR to a ridiculous height. There was a family of 7 people in New Jersey. 3 of them died in a few days and the rest of them are near death. All of them were obese and only one of them was above 70, the other two that died were in their 50s. This virus hits obese people just as hard as healthy old people.
I don't think you understand what a ventilator does
Yes and it took 3k plus to die for 12 healthy people to die....do the math faggot
.I would bet real world money not single one of those 400 are below 60 in age and if they are none will die
No to does not since 99 percent of obese people in Italy under the age of 60 survived....in a country with the highest infection rate next to China who either is lying or done with it lol
It doesn't fucking matter if the under 40s aren't dying, it's the fact that 5-10% of them need hospitalisation and a bunch of them also need an ICU bed on top of the thousands of old people who also are hospitalised
The young people are only not dying because there's still room for them in the hospitals
>everyone is perfectly OK with contracting an ailment so bad they have to go to hospital
>hospitals overfull
Also normal people (aka white people) care about losing friends and family members who may be more vulnerable
Le*f.
Bud the average American is not a 50 year old obese man
I said a hundred times the actual death rate for under 45 even being obese is less than a percent all over the globe and this is a statiscal fact backed by real world data
This statement is retarded. Of course 99% of people under 60 with obesity are alive, 99% of them haven't been infected yet. Although the outbreak is large, it's still only a small portion of people that are sick.
>When you know you're retarded but post retarded shit anyway, then talk about how it's retarded.
Jesus Christ you are like an elite-tier retard. You are the Navy SEALs of retards. I bet you vote for every Democrat you possibly can.
No most young people don't need beds much less ICU lol only twelve percent of under 50 year olds went to the ICU the majority of people will be able to stay home this is a fact faggot
That combined with triage means those young people will never not have a bed and only old fucks will die