13,000 cases, only 3 more deaths, total of 31 deaths.
Contrast that to the US (earlier in the cycle) with 155 deaths and only 9k cases. Or France with 9k cases and 264 deaths... or Spain with 17k cases and 800 deaths.
Germany is 7 to 20 times below the death rates of comparable countries at about the same cycle position.
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So what's the explanation?
Are the weak of germany already dead?
Is the german healthcare better?
Is it just fewer old fat people?
My guess is better healthcare and not attributing deaths to corona which are explainable by other factors even if they are infected.
That's because your government doesn't count pneumonia death's as COVID-19 deaths. Just look up the amount of pneumonia deaths in Germany in the past week, there's a massive spike.
Different strain of the virus. Italy has strain L. Germany has strain S.
Germans are already dead on the inside by nature
Source?
Probably fucking with the statistics, just like Chyna.
Better health care system - more ICU's.
Simple as that.
around 500 people infected here. Still no deaths
Honestly, nobody knows.
Speculation is that we Germans are just way more likely to follow orders, plus our healthcare is better in terms of handling cases very early on. Also, the general older population is healthier from walking with their dogs, fresh air and a meat heavy diet.
I'm slowly beginning to think that it is just a meme virus.
It's because they're counting people who had comorbidities as dying from those comorbidities instead of from the covid.
Corona was distributed in Germany by people who had vacationed in Northern Italy.
We are actually boiling our bat sausages, not eating them raw. Only pork should be eaten raw. Here, have some mett
>Germans are just way more likely to follow orders
kek
This
I'll just leave this here.
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The problem with “more ICU beds” is that we also have very few critical cases in ICUs in the first place. Most corona cases we have stay at home, like 80-90%.
Germany lost shitloads during WW2, so very few 90 year olds.
Also, they didn't experience the baby boom as early as the rest of the west, so not as many old boomers.
You see the same shit in Russia.
Russia is sparcely populated with few tourists in January to March. That’s why they don’t have corona.
Maybe, we had some cases pretty early though.
If there are actually 2 different strains, one way less problematic, I might have actually had the easy one beginning of february.
windmills have exterminated the entire bat population
People who die of "pneumonia" aren't counted towards the Corona-chan total.
What is the age distribution of those infected in Germany?
lots of it has to do with testing and classifying deaths
couple of days ago i read about 4 victims that died that day: 85, 81, 81 and 82 years old all with co-morbid diseases.
Does Germany publish the number of people tested, hospitalized etc. somewhere?
hmm... it kinda reminds me something...
en.wikipedia.org
trust SK data, only they took random samples, young people are all positive bat aids carriers just cant get tested in the west
why didn't you let all the dunkelhunde die. you guys have lost your touch
South Korea took random samples? Source?
evidence based, rule abiding, detail oriented german autism really shines in certain situations like a pandemic
they are able to concentrate on solving a tangible clearly defined problem, this is what german efficiency is great at
>can't find all the buried bodies
>can't find all the skin lamps and stolen gold
>can't find records of all the extermination orders
>can't even keep track of deaths by viral infections as its happening
jesus you guys are useless
well i'll be a monkey's uncle, look at you catchin' up with us. i had no idea
Looking at China's critical care beds compared to Italy's - is there any chance that the data coming out of China is even within an order of magnitude of reality? Will we ever find out?
France lost about 100 000 nurse and a quarter of the hospital facilities it had 10 years ago. Ironically, the last left government hurt all the health system more than the 20 years of right wing governments before it.
Estonia
>0 deaths
The spike is the shincheonji cult
>Actually believing Germany's numbers
Geez, next you're gonna tell me you believe China too.
No one cares about Russians.
They're all black, duh. Lol at the numbers out of Africa
You're next.
>America
>Pre existing conditions.
>Obesity.
Chosen People don't get sick, they get heil'd up.
China has no new cases
Italy has MILLIONS of infected people already
Death rates are low there too.
Already had it.
Germany has a deal with China so they've got the s strain which provides immunity. Other countries with the s strain are Hng Kong, Taiwan and Singapore based purely on the disparities in numbers. Why China decided to be kind to Germany of all countries is beyond me though.
>Italy has MILLIONS of infected
Source?
They are lying. There's no way they have a lower death rate than SK, who has the most amount of tests per capita in the world. That's just 0.2% deathrate
Take your meds schizo
Fewer people with pre existing conditions got infected thanks to old germans all hating the rest of germany
something tells me we are simply not doing enough tests on it.
My county + city (350.000 people) alone have conducted 1560 tests. Putting the rate at 445 per 100k or (virtually) 4450 per million in the past 9 days. So far, 135 were tested positive.
Because COVID-19 is no more or less likely to cause acute respiratory illness than any other virus and Germany is the only country applying sound empirical methodology on a broad enough scale to reveal this.
It's a colder than average year due to decreased solar activity which is making for a more brutal pneuomnia season. And other countries are looking for corona in people who are already presenting with acute respiratory illness and creating a statistical boogieman in the process.
What empirical methodology?
Hmmm, mmmm, yes, yes. Interesting. Tell me more, wise user.
>Just look up the amount of pneumonia deaths in Germany in the past week, there's a massive spike.
Tried to do that. What I found was this:
This looks as if the amount of death people in europe is pretty on the low end.
> Trusting Numbers
I've had a thought lately:
Thinking that Corona-Chan is some dangerous virus depends upon the assumption, that the government numbers were created by an honest and competent entity. If they're not competent, those numbers are wrong, and if they're lying, those numbers are also wrong. And claiming, that some western government is competent as well as honest seems outlandish to me.
IMHO what's happening is, that the number of cases is underreported. Most people who get a mild case are never tested, and if most infected don't end up on intensive care, most infections go by unnoticed.
Those who are being tested have a much higher chance of ending up in the ICU, which of course increases the rate of deaths of those cases.
What the deaths/cases ratio therefore measures, is how thorough the testing is. AFAIK the italian healthcare system is trashy in comparison to the german one. Yes, both are socialist, and suck, but there are differing degrees in suckiness. Apparently in germany there's more or less thorough testing, and they find a higher percentage of all infected.
I know, we all hoped for the best, aka the apocalypse, but it may be the case, that Corona-Chan is a highly infectious dud. Maybe worse than the common cold, but not an world-ending disaster. Let's hope she mutates into airborne-aids-pneumonia.
Something tells me we're not seeing the obvious: It's an impotent meme virus that will infect fewer and fewer people as temperatures and solar activity increase.
>solar activity
good luck with that
>Apparently in germany there's more or less thorough testing, and they find a higher percentage of all infected.
How many people were tested in Germany?
It's all bullshit. I bet Italy has shitty tests and 75% are common flu deaths
>solar activity increasing
Gonna be a rough 50 years for you, Hans.
from 9. to 15.3 100.000 outpatients were tested in germany, which does NOT include people that were tested in clinics or hospitals. due to insurance differences, the latter are not tracked as easily
german labs are supposedly able to test between 20 and 30k people per day.
that doesnt sound like low numbers to me
source br.de
100,000 between March 9 and 15. 35,000 the week before. Not including independent tests from local doctors.
br.de
Also this:
pseudo reasons that don't explain why you're better off than netherlands or france.
I wouldn't write off statistical manipulation. Perhaps it's unintentional, somelike like writing a different cause of death due to other conditions.
And how many people were tested in Italy?
germans are liars
Germany has the reported capacity to perform 12,000 tests a day. Versus France or the US who both only have a capacity of roughly 2500 tests a day.
So it stands to reason that Germany is more likely to humor someone with a test if they present with very mild symptoms. Whereas in the countries with the least amount of testing
For example here in Canada we are advising people with only mild viral symptoms to just stay at home and not spread whatever they have around, which is good common sense advice. There's literally no need for medical care if you have a minor viral infection. So the actual test figures in Canada only include people who have moderate to severe symptoms. Coronavirus isn't a new type of virus. COVID-19 is just a newly discovered strain of it. So what we're doing is taking people who are presenting with moderate to severe symptoms of a respiratory infection and then looking to see if they have COVID-19.
But what we don't know is What portion of the population has COVID-19 but has absolutely no symptoms? What portion of the population has COVID-19 and maybe just the sniffles or a dry throat? We only know who has a persistent cough and also has COVID-19 (and has also felt the need to voluntarily submit for COVID-19 testing). I might have had a proper case of pneumonia in the past and so I might have a cough that someone who hasn't might consider severe, but be like "eh, it's nothing. I'll just use up all my sick days to be safe."
What has transpired is an abhorrent affront to proper science because guess what?
Viral pneumonia is fucking dangerous and there's very little that can be done to treat it. But there's a number of different viruses that can cause it. It's one of the leading ways a virus will kill someone. It has always sent millions of people to the grave world-wide. People are only just paying attention to people dying of pneumonia now. By the time 2020 is over 50,000 people will die in the US alone who would normally die from it.
it would be nice to see the german coronavirus patients sorted into age groups.
Corona came to Italy through Germany
bullshit.
Korea has 6 times more bed than France
They did not die. They are in Army of Reserve now.
Has anyone directly died of Corona?
I'm happy for Germany!