Why should I recognize a social contract with someone who is holding out on me?

If someone has absurdly more wealth and resources than I do and refuses to share, even if I am suffering and struggling to survive, why should I recognize them as being in my in-group? Why should I view them any differently than a game animal to be hunted and eaten?

Being the same species as another individual is trivial. What matters is whether we can cooperate with each other for mutual benefit. If I become homeless and some millionaire shouts "why should you be entitled to my things?" from the window of mansion, there's no reason why I shouldn't just kill that person and take everything he has. He's not my family, my friend, my comrade, he's just an animal full of meat who will fight or flee upon merely seeing me. He's a stranger.

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indeed

>social contract

is that like telepathic?

>thinking like a nigger animal
>not thinking like a based Aryan
First problem OP

tl, dr

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You shouldn't. Hitler defined race traitors pretty clearly. They're the types of people who "hedge their bets" by buying bunkers in New Zealand and funding more than one candidate.

>Not thinking like an obedient goy

And "Nazi" literally means "national socialism", though you all knew that already.

>What matters is whether we can cooperate with each other
>so gimme your shit or else
100% nigger

>there's no reason why I shouldn't just kill that person and take everything he has.
You don't have the balls faggot. And if you did, you wouldn't last more than a week. Face it, you're a worthless faggot that can't make it in the world. Do the world a favor and remove yourself from existence.

>ooga man ova der has ting me want
>booga me make man sleep and take ting

So then why can't he ask the same question of you? Why can't he kill you? Or do you accept both amorally?

Hitler was a controlled op by the jews you fucking newfag

The social contract is the agreement that we all have not to kill each other for food. The base rule of nature is that you can only accumulate what you can personally protect from others right now. The social contract changes that by not requiring all of us to protect ourselves and our shit all the time. The social contract is what allows us to accumulate things like cars and houses and 401(k)'s.

Here we have a douchebag who wants to know why he shouldn't break the social contract in instances when he thinks it would benefit him to do so. That is some seriously childish and amoral shit. Do you steal when you know that you can get away with it? I suppose so.

You won't last long or well in life with that attitude you opportunistic little pussy.

Shit perspective. You recognize the social contract because there is always someone more fucked off than you are who wants your shit, if there isn't you're a fucking idiot. Even as a homeless bum living in your car or sleeping in a tent, theres a shelter sleeping squat house living crackhead who will steal that shit from under you. You can't be a part of a society with others because someone doesnt want to share all their shit with you? This really must be some retarded bait. Look at Diogenes, he didnt turn into a rabid dog and attack others - he did what the fuck he wanted as a natural human but he didn't go and kill some asshat for his house. What are you going to do after you kill him, put on his clothes and work his job, pay his mortgage? Cap his brother when he comes to see why Tom hasnt answered? Kill the neighbors once you run out of food? The more I think if this the more I'm pissed at myself for even responding to this bullshit. Yeah retard, if you can't figure out how to surf on top of society once you've broken free of it you should just sink to the bottom with the rest.

Why shouldn't I? If I'm considering something like that, you must have alienated yourself from me.

Why should I even have to ask?

He's already behaving antisocially by selfishly hoarding resources. Killing me would be the next logical step, so I should kill him first.

Yeah blame the other. Surely you have nothing to do with the fact you don't have the thing you're taking.

You don't owe the world anything. If the world is going to say it owes you nothing if you become poor and destitute the least you can do is return the favor.

Don't listen to these cucks who say it's your duty to lay down and die so some richfags aren't inconvenienced.

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No, my question is why should I recognize the social contract in regards to someone else who has already broken it by hoarding wealth and resources to my detriment.

There's a difference between recognizing a greedy grubby kike versus being a nigger and wanting to murder/steal as an easy way to get what you want. Peak dindu nuffin.

If I'm suffering and nobody will help me then everyone is just a bunch of animals to me. The social contract is void.

I'll never buy this one

You are adding "hoarding wealth and resources" to the meaning of the social contract. That isn't part of it. You don't get to decide what your neighbor has to share. You don't get to have an opinion about your neighbor's shit. Fuck you for thinking that you get to loser. There is no legal duty to assist your fellow man. This is settled common law. Now handle your business and stop thinking like a nigger.

That is precisely it. I DON'T HAVE TO HELP YOU AND NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE. You and only you are responsible for where you are at and how you feel. You are responsible for your own safety, your own welfare and your own bills. Even if I have more than you.

Big talk from someone with a roof over their head and food in their belly. Think you could stick to those lofty ideals if you were starving to death and no one would help you? Somehow I doubt it, because the sort of people with your cucked mentalities have never had to face true hardship before.

It doesn't matter why. If I go out hunting and can only find a squirrel, and Bob goes out and kills a deer, either we share all of the meat, or the social contract is void. If Bob says "it's your fault, you should be a better hunter!", he may be correct, but the social contract is still void because he is creating a separation between us and witholding things from me. We are no longer one people, we are now two separate creatures, and there is no practical benefit to classifying Bob as distinct from a squirrel or a deer. This is the problem with the "take responsibility for yourself" rebuttals to criticisms of capitalism.

Then there is no social contract. There's no reason to spare anyone.

remember if you kill a rich person and take their stuff you are now rich and also deserve to die in minecraft

You're completely right.

See bootlickers are so concerned about if they earned what they have or not. I don't care what you think you fucking earned. If you want to prosper and let me suffer in times of need, then it doesn't matter, you're no longer human.

Yes op, congratulations you figured out why wars exist and why people steal from each other.

why do these threads keep popping up?

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>be hunter
>learned hunting from father, who learned from his father
>feed myself, family and community
>another hunter
>lazy and lacking ambition
>I regularly get deer while he barely gets anything
>always giving him my food
>one day he gets a squrrel
>congratulate him
>he spergs and tries to kill me when I dont share my deer with him

Capitalism is about value. If you are a leech who doesn't produce anything then you will not be successful. If you can hunt and feed the village you will be the alpha male. You can try to kill the alpha male and take his spot but you only get one chance. Would you rather try that or would you rather try becoming a better hunter so you can hunt together?

Yes. Aryans are not attached to form.

agitation

Materially right, morally wrong, spiritually unsure.

They have to earn it through HARD WORK. If they don't do hard work, they don't deserve anything. So they need to maintain a society that requires everyone to work hard all the time for their entire lives. No matter how sophisticated technology becomes, they must spend all their time working. The extra capital produced by increased efficiency can just go right into the pockets of billionaires or something. It's a perfect system.

This is a very commie view, they are mostly mentally ill, parasitic, a liability and a constant danger to others.

>why should I recognize them as being in my in-group?

What is it with low iq people and being incapable of explaining things? What does this even mean
>recognize them as being in my in-group
Are you in high school and you're in the cool kids group or some shit? What does it mean. You make it sound like the rich all know each others names and get together every weekend or something, when everyone pretty much has the same amount of friends, regardless of income.

EVERYONE, rich or poor, only cares about themselves, their families and to a lesser extent, their friends. A rich person doesn't care about every other rich person. Just like a white person saying "i love all my people" is just air because it doesn't mean anything. The elites don't care about you and you don't care about them. That's the way of things. If you don't like it then wait until everything goes to shit and kill whoever you don't like. There's really no other way to change the world. Think about what Hitler did. Killed everyone he didn't like.

The world literally only gets worse during peace time and it can ONLY be fixed during war time.

It’s entirely mutual, they already view everyone else this way. The only reason you shouldn’t is because you haven’t planned well enough yet.

I'd rather not starve. I'd also rather not be trapped in my opponent's frame and fooled into playing by his rules. If you're not sharing then you are useless to me.

Sounds like the average Yas Forumstard.

Why shouldn't they just kill you? You would be nothing but a burden on society in this situation.

>Why shouldn't they just kill you?

Very good question. The only reason the peasants aren't all slaughtered is because they have no power. When you are a danger to them, you will be killed. By the police, by the soldiers, anyone they can pay to kill you. So, the reason you or me or OP isn't killed is because they don't even know who we are. It's better that way.

You're conveniently leaving out your own responsibility in the situation. It's like how lottery winners can win hundreds of millions of dollars and they'll be broke in a few years. Murder someone and steal their fish you eat for a day, ask someone how to fish and learn to catch your own and you'll eat the rest of your life.

The disparity of wealth is completely astronomical. More than even in the middle ages. It's like their being a social contract between an ant and a wasp. It's entirely artificial and the wasp keeps preying on the ant.

now THIS is redpilled.

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The in-group are individuals I have a social contract with. I help them, they help me, and we don't harm each other. We resolve disputes peacefully and rationally.

The out-group is everything else. Animals, trees, rocks, bacteria, whatever. Use it and abuse it as you see fit. It has no rights. You don't deign to debate with it or justify yourself to it, it's not even possible.

A human who prospers while I suffer and offers only bad-faith admonition at best falls into the latter category.

Oligarchs hoarding wealth and preventing growth and prosperity for a nation are also a burden on society, but you worship success because you think you could someday be like them. They have no loyalty to country and certainly not to a social contract. They have police protection more than the poor. There is no contract, its enforced only by firepower.

You sound like a fag and your shits all retarded

It's irrelevant for the reasons already explained.

Is op actually a nazbol retard or am I missing something?

Go ahead and hunt and eat them but we all know when lazy worthless losers like you go on your little rants about killing the rich you really mean you want someone else to kill the rich for you while you sit on your lazy ass.

>there's no reason why I shouldn't just kill that person
there are two, first, you are fucking pussy and can't even kill yourself and second, you'd be dead sooner than your victim because this is not GTA

>everyone who opposes the jews is a jew

The most obvious kike propaganda.

Fuck off fag. I'm talking about OP's "If I become homeless and some millionaire shouts 'why should you be entitled to my things?' from the window of mansion, there's no reason why I shouldn't just kill that person". Why should the millionaire not kill OP instead of the other way around? The millionaire pays taxes and contributes to the growth of the economy while OP is a vagrant hanging around in rich neighborhoods. Why should the millionaire die?

No. My political stance is best described as radical individualist egoist anarchy.

We created a social safety net precisely because most people don't feel the way you are speaking.

>pandemic stops just 20% of the peasants going in to work
>economy crashes

you guys have it backwards. power isn't who had the money or even who has the guns. it's who has the people. the smaller the minority at the top and the more brutally the social contracts they break, the more inevitable their blood-soaked demise.

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Might as well kill yourself.

Ideally.

>The millionaire pays taxes and contributes to the growth of the economy
He does? No, he hides it and lobbies government to give him tax breaks. What a stupid lie.

National Socialism preaches that everyone in society must always have the belief that there is always someone in a worse situation then thy self and a volksgenossen you should always help them out, rich or poor.

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The rich pay the vast majority of taxes. Stop being a whiny fag and answer the question.

The scenario assumes that YOU are the vagrant.

millionaire need to start funding the revolution if they dont want to be lumped in with the billionaires as is justifiably doing.

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Yeah retard because I was actually homeless for years hitchhiking around the US, its a fucking blast and the only reason I stopped that was because I met my wife at a music thing and she's spoiled, the roof over my head is an RV I busted my ass for while sleeping inna bushes and onna sidewalk while stashing away money from odd jobs. We still travel and play music while living relatively detatched from society, "surfing on top" as I like to call it. Get fucked bitch nigger, if you're such a combination of weak and hungry that you can't help yourself to a fucking dumpster, too stupid or proud to ask someone else for help, not smart enough to take necessary steps to prevent it be it developing a novel talent or useful skill, all of this together so that killing some poor fuck for his shit like a stupid fucking no impluse control animal - well congratulations you did it retard what's the next step in your master plan? I've been homless, no gear cold wet hungry and ALONE on the side of a mountain at night in a rainstorm with only myself or God to confront about it all. Yeah I've been down and out, not once did such a stupid idea ever even cross my mind, and I didn't blame God. Choose what motivates you, you sound motivated by jealousy. Why don't you want to build yourself up instead of taking directly from others?

>The in-group are individuals I have a social contract with. I help them, they help me, and we don't harm each other. We resolve disputes peacefully and rationally.
>still being vague as shit
I completely understand why the world is the way it is when I see the state of Yas Forums, Yas Forums, and everywhere else on the internet. Everyone is just dumb and incapable of explaining exactly what they mean.

Entire modern world explained in brief: Intelligent people exploit; Dumb people get exploited.

See this. This is someone who is capable of saying what they mean. The only reason OP or anyone else hasn't killed rich person X or Jew Y is because the person moping doesn't want to die and they will probably die if they start killing people at random. If you disagree then be like Saint Brenton Tarrant who only managed to clear one mosque before he was captured. That's someone who was dumb enough to think that one man with a gun is enough. Nope. You need way more people and way more guns. I'm not talking down his ideas, just his methods.

TLDR why do we accept the state of things? because we're powerless to stop it

>individual responsibility
thats what billion dollar corporations think too.

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If I ever become a vagrant with nothing better to do than hang around in rich neighborhoods sulking then yes, I would be a worthless human.

>the successful are responsible for only bad things, especially of the unsuccessful

Don't know don't care. Shit thread.

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>"I know, how about everyone in society just be gud?"

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