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Pro tip: You can’t
Dispute this.
Pro tip: You can’t
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The government running everything turns it to shit. Bailing it out every once in a while is still stupid, but better than nationalizing.
Actually true
If your government insists on socialising the losses, might as well socialise the profits too
Exactly why should we bail them out every time and reap no reward.
I’d rather fix those issues than bail out private companies.
If it's to big to fail then it should be allowed to fail. Smaller corporations and startups will feed off the rotting carcass to blossom their own business model.
Burdening a failed business model with government intervention is cumbersome and often fails. The only industries where government intervention makes sense is if the service provides a critical utility to it's citizens.
Yes I agree we should let them fail but if we must bail them out as governments insists at least nationalise them.
Any companies getting bailed out need to be broken up after.
>reap no reward
have you ever heard of this thing called taxes? maybe employment? but it's not like they're the main source of income for the government at all
Nothing's too big to fail, nothing should be nationalised.
No, it all turns to shit. Usually when the marketing team has the hold on the important management of the corporation everything rots from the inside out. I worked in publicity promotion for a company and I watched a million dollar company chase phantom markets they had no business being in.
A corporation's value is in it's effective utility to produce. Nationalized infrastructure makes sense. Nationalized corporations do not and is often filled with waste and pointless middle management.
but how will the 1% stay rich if they can't rop off the public?
Yes and no: there should be a state owned non-profit bank to make the market more competitive but it shouldn't be acquired by force.
this is what sanders was all about. why should the public prop up the capitalist?
it's every man for themselves when they're making money and we're all in this together when it tanks
no, you don't nationalize, you break it up and force them to compete.
>too big to fail
>nationalize now
the people
I win
We need a nationalized family promotion agency. Single mothers and fatherless children being simps to the system. They are too demoralized and lack the drive to improve a process by founding a corporation.
Fair point. Big corporations seem to love welfare when it's directed at them.
National socialism was correct all along wow based jews
I think he's talking about the airlines. in a real capitalist world they would fail because they didn't have an emergency plan.
Privatised profits, socialised losses.
Imagine not seeing anything wrong with this.
BUY MY SHITTY BANKS AND COMPANIES, GOYYYIIMMM!!!!!
slightly offtopic: why do most people not use capital letters in their username but use punctuation in their message
I have some bad news for you. The large multinationals love regulations. They are protectionist by their very nature essentially securing themselves as top honcho. Regulations gatekeep out the little guys. Intellectual property law is the very heart of their system of innovation suppression.
auction off the planes maybe someone else could run it better.
but it's not really a capitalist free market they just say that for the chumps. it's a free market for those with few options and big socialism for the rich
Bailouts are much worse than nationalizing since it makes companies reckless and fraudulent.
They milk the bitch as much as they can and when it all goes down it's no biggy since they get bailed out anyway.
And it's not like anybody is going to go to prison. It's like robbing your own store and then collecting insurance on it. Double win.
well in real capitalism it should just be allowed to fail and that's that so a competitor can come along and do it better. the problem is we have adopted corporate welfare socialism and the gov is so spooked about market drops they will prop up trash companies that need to be fucking gutted and put out of business. might as well just fucking take them all over as most companies only exist and profit from back room deals and tech transfers from things developed with public dollars
yep they regulate to keep the competition away
all I'm saying is the next time you hear one of these libertarians or free market fundamentalists yammering on you should point out what a chump they are
The worst part is: the reason they didn't have an emergency plan/fund is because they always re-invest all their profits to avoid taxes (and now they want the tax payer to bail them out).
imagine if they privatize social security and something like this happens. the public will pay for their ss twice
Nationalization would get rid competition which is the main virtue of capitalism.
Fuck your goddamn random nobody twitter threads and fuck you op
Top quality stuff here
How can one man say something so based?
>Competition
>In a game where if it looks like you are going to fail the public comes along and bails you out
most of this privatization is a fraud that only benefits the 1% at public expense
>if we must bail them out
We don’t and shouldn’t
The bailouts should have come with jailtime and 10%+ interest
Let them fail and let the world correct itself naturally
>We don’t
What did he mean by this?
>bail out a massive company about to fail
>nationalize a massive company about to fail
I don't have to dispute anything, because this is a false dichotomy.
The correct response is to simply let the company fail.
the 1% aren't going to ask they gonna demand.
and the politicians they bought are gonna comply
Do leftists just put words together and call it an idea?
does she have other vids?
Hillary Clinton is too big to fail. Is she public property now?
It works for China reasonably well
notice nobody is talking about free markets
>They can't even form a proper argument against it
>Actually true
>If your government insists on socialising the losses, might as well socialise the profits too
Correct. But we also need to expel the Jews or it won't work.
Yes. They've already decided on everything. The only thing they think about is how to make it sound good in their heads.
>Th-That's not a proper argument! What is that, some kind of JOKE?!
It was indeed a joke.
>a joke
>i.e not serious
>i.e can be freely discarded
If it's too big to fail, it needs to be broken up.
Too big to fail also means they have a gun to your head. Like it or not all of the material things people enjoy these days are products of a corrupt monetary system. Take that away and who knows what. Definitely nothing pleasant in the short-term, however it holds immense potential for everyone to wipe the slate clean. Assuming they survive the transition.
In the old days the businesses would bail out the government
You still can't even come to terms with the fact that it was just humor. Holy shit. You're over there seething at anything that doesn't look like unquestioning support. Talk about fragile.
>It's just humour
>While also trying to make some sort of serious point
pick one memeflag.
Everything is susceptible to failure. Large companies, however, hae many resources and failsafes to prevent it as much as possible. OP and twitter OP is fucking retarded
sanders would let a lot of these businesses fail
trump and the republicans will bail everyone out
nothing is to big to fail
btw this will keep happening because the 1% know the government will always bail them out
maybe more and more often too. there's no risk so they can be as reckless as they want
Except it wasn't trying to make a serious point at all, retard.
OK cool, and so can be freely dismissed.
Thanks for playing.
USSR was fairly big, that failed, and when it did oh boy
imagine being lectured about free markets all that time between the bailouts
They bail out maybe 1% of business whih are leveraged out their mind doing risky investments meanwhile self employed and small business get jack shit
yeah the american neolibs came in and helped them set up an oligarchy
>going back to the dark ages every time there's a war economic crisis or pandemic
Everything the government touches turn to shit
what's the alternative, feudalism?