HEAD OF VIRUS TRACKING LAB AND RESPIRATORY ILLNESS SPECIALIST: IT'S FUCKING NOTHING

>Pulmonologist (respiratory disease doc) who ran virus tracking facility
>Corona test never vetted, no idea if it's accurate
>Corona viruses make up 14% of flu like respiratory infections every year
>So called "lethality rates" vary because there are very few tests available so you can only get small shitty sample sizes for your stats and if the samples are taken in hospitals, as is being done, the numbers are dramatically inflated
>Making this even worse, deaths of patients in hospital who test positive for corona + some other disease are being labeled as corona deaths when the cause of death could have been any other disease and corona was simply present, as it is commonly, every year, for huge numbers of people in every country

(subtitles only) youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI
(with english voiceover) youtube.com/watch?v=yn074EB5NNY

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lewrockwell.com/2020/03/no_author/italy-is-second-country-with-coronavirus-outbreak-preceded-by-a-tuberculosis-epidemic/
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>not using the panic for fun and watch the markets crash further
You know guys, the virus lasts for a long time. Long enough to be shipped with amazon purchases.

>Making this even worse, deaths of patients in hospital who test positive for corona + some other disease are being labeled as corona deaths when the cause of death could have been any other disease and corona was simply present, as it is commonly, every year, for huge numbers of people in every country

Kind of a dumb point when deaths from the normal flu are done the exact same way. Thus deaths from the flu and deaths from corona are very comparable, and looking at Italy, where flu "ILI's" (Influenza-like-illness) are counted to around 10k-20k each year with 5 million being infected, Corona is SIGNIFICANTLY more deadly.

Corona is the normal flu. Flu is not a virus it's a catch all term for respiratory diseases that happen in the winter.

the ones who really want the market crash are the big financial sharks like hedge funds and investment banks, they have been doing miserable profits compared to what was being done 10 or 20 years ago. They want normies and retards to get out so that they can buy the world nearly for free

Not when it's venture capital.

Venture capital owns the market right now and they’re dumping lol the market is tanking because of media panic and boomers cashing out it’ll be the best time for millennials to become millionaires

So what stocks/instruments should I buy user?

Venture capital are for private markets, mostly high risk private markets which is mostly tech, of course the startup scene will suffer for years to come since the era of free money is over, the money printed by the fed will be used to help the too big to fail type of companies and ordinary people to buy necessary goods

Are you retarded?

>uhhh... no understan..... you uhhhh dumb no me a dumb dumb y-you a dumb... hurrrrr
Yas Forums IQ is at an all time low. My post is correct.

Venture capitalists is just time frame of investing, it has nothing to do with where or when they sell. They sell on the open market because of liquidity.

For those who don't have time to watch the video, or want clarification, this is a summary of his views:

"The current Panic has nothing to do with illness or epidemics. All flu-watch indicators just show baseline data. (normale Werte)

Neither in China nor in Italy nor elsewhere extraordinary cases of severe illness are registered. (see above)

China threatened its people and the world just for two months in Wuhan and staged how to detect, hype and fight an epidemic. European states follow that theatre and are isolating each other.

In Europe the economy is breaking down and human rights are forgotten, while China has just stopped those useless tests and declares the crisis from now on as a foreign problem.

Europe is paralyzed by panic and China is smiling.

We are currently not measuring the incidence of coronavirus diseases, but the activity of the specialists searching for them."

wodarg.com/

Another summary of his views:

"He acknowledges that flu-like diseases like COVID-19 lead to pneumonia cases but he doubts that we see anything out of the ordinary with regard to case rates. Regarding Italy his claims are: hospitals are overloaded with potential cases, not actual cases and many of those people who now die in hospitals would have died at home anyways (without clogging the ICUs) and are not even clear to have died because of Corona viruses, due to their other potentially lethal preexisting conditions."

Wodarg is not the only coronavirus sceptic. According to Ron Paul, the extremist measures being taken may only make the problem even worse, by depriving people of fresh air, exercise, and sunlight.

He also says: “It is ironic to see the same Democrats who tried to impeach President Trump last month for abuse of power demanding that the Administration grab more power and authority in the name of fighting a virus that thus far has killed less than 100 Americans."

youtube.com/watch?v=WYH0LskZWVg

when package arrives you go outside with protective gear on including respirator/goggles/gloves. you spray the box with disinfectant and let it soak in. if you have a place to set it for a few weeks do so. otherwise take a knife and carefully cut it open outside then place the box in a sealed bag and deposit in trash. carefully remove the contents (still outside) and spray down with bleach and wipe thoroughly the product. remove product box and repeat with the inside. then place in a sealed bag and store item wherever you need to for as long as you can before using it, preferably two weeks. if you have a sealed room or shop you can put it there and crank up the heat to help kill a potential virus. do this with mail as well. maybe the virus is not real, better safe than sorry. good excuse to wear your hazmat suit for the neighbors anyway

>Europe is paralyzed by panic and China is smiling.

Why does everybody pretend that, in the event that china was lying and this was an exercise in fucking us over, that we (the west) don't have tungsten rods on satellite platforms in orbit willing to slam all their population centers within minutes ?

I'm completely unmoved by his claims because science has lost all authority in my mind. People who work in fields like this might be considered professional justificationists, not purveyors or discoverers of truth.

Just like this notion of alternative facts, I'm aware that a fact is just one more piece of information, with no greater or less privilege than shit or shinola. You can believe in your heart, in logical consistency, in solid foundations, in holism and independent verification, or in the best social construction our epistemological categories can currently support. No one knows anything, not a scientist, a priest, or a person whose boots are on the ground.

I'm not bewildered so much as bemused by these thoroughgoing attempts.

That was a whole lotta words for "i don't believe what he's saying".

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The problem is so much bigger than that. I can't believe in anything at all.

One guy said it so I believe it now. Time to go lick some strangers mouths.

I think that guy on the History channel that said aliens were real was right, too.

You are halfway there, lad. All that is left is for you to figure out the power of belief and that you can belief in anything that you want to.

>NEWS SAY PANIC SO ME PANIC
>RESPIRATORY ILLNESS DOCTOR WHO STUDIES VIRAL EPIDEMICS SAY NO PANIC BUT BUT...... DA NEWS!!!!!!!!!
>ME NO BELIEVE ONE MAN ME BELIEVE OTHER MAN!!!!

Check out the youtube channel "quantum of conscience"

Jesus christ what retarded faggotry. I guess those thousands of people flooding ICUs are a big nothingburger.

Even my cynical slip that "no one knows anything" is intellectually dishonest. People might very well know things, some very substantial things, even if they cannot know everything. But knowing they might or might not know, as a binary choice I'm expected to make, while also being cognizant that there is still much they do not know, or that it may still turn out that they did not know even a little when I decided to grant them the benefit of the doubt, so to speak, destroys any drive in me to support their cause. Or anyone else's. Meanwhile, I am disgusted with myself, as if I lack some mental faculty that inheres in everyone else, simple as breathing, and I sit in terror at being found our, or taking the next step and having it confirmed for me with a painful experience.

That too is folly.

>ALIEN RESEARCHER SAY ALIEN REAL! PYRAMID ALIEN!
>ME WEAR TINFOIL HAT NOW!!
go visit a hospital and see how they are handling the amount of patients they have and tell me that its just on the news.

>news causes panic about virus that causes "cough"
>surprisingly, hospitals have a hard time handing every person in their city who has a cough coming in at once

From what reading I've done into The Temple of Solomon mega pack, their claims about reality being a probabilistic thing--or wholly mental and thus responsive to thought as something akin to magical power over this realm--seem to be on even shakier grounds than the stuff of academic philosophy and "science studies". I do confess to being brainwashed by college in the US, yet still it is a hard thing to let go of when magicians are capable of larping as establishment scientists as I rot in my own hovel.

Nigger what? The flu is the influenza virus. Covid is a sars-corona virus. Even the common cold is an actual virus - rhinovirus.

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Can somebody just fucking look at a general picture of the total deaths in Shitaly and compare it to other years? Come the fuck on! How the fuck is this information not being dug up?

The flu is short for influenza a viral infection. Though we use it as a catch all heuristically, it’s name by definition is that of a virus.

I understand that you are afraid but this is the reality we are living in user. Brace yourself because it's only going to get much worse.

>he's not accepting the repetitive messaging sir
>ahh uhmm... just repeat it again I guess
>be afraid
boring and stupid

Show us bro

if you aren't scared then go get the virus.

>surprisingly, hospitals have a hard time handing every person in their city who has a cough coming in at once
You mean they have a hard time handling everyone who needs to be put on a respirator.
Which is a fucking high amount of people with this shit.

I may have it. You might too. Along with millions of other people every single year.

his argument makes sense for the most part but doesn't explain Italy,

Italy is seeing a 20% increase in total deaths, (not disease specific)….

why is italys total death rate up 20%?

anyone

okay but if you aren't scared then go expose yourself as much as possible to it. you aren't scared, nothing to be scared of! what are you, scared?

Proof please
>doctors like to use their equipment because that's all they're trained to do and they believe the panic
yeah

Why would I do that? I'm living my life as normal because I don't care and niether does anyone else here in the PNW danger zone where I am. Everyone knows it's bullshit because it's obvious.

Coronavirus is the only thing stopping us from Idiocracy. I welcome this disease in wiping out all of the drooling retards like OP.

okay I would like to see you livestream you going out every single day unmasked without washing your hands and then do a broadcast every day from home for the next 3 weeks to prove you aren't sick and dying from the virus.

Wait for the bottom if you can. S&P500 etf index is a good place to start.

Washington is pozzed, California is pozzed, and Oregon has Silicon Forest and, at least in PDX, is peopled with piking Chinese cleanroom workers. I'm not thrilled at going outside whether or not there are more "confirmed" cases here because it's like gambling for xenophilia with my life.

I don't like those people for plenty of other reasons, whether or not they are virulent.

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>IM SO TERRIFIED I NEED YOU TO GO OUT AND HELP ME TO NOT BE AFRAID PLEASE PLEASE user IM SO SCARED- I MEAN YOU - ITS YOU WHOS SCARED NOT ME AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
I'm going to continue to live normally and go to the store everyday, do everything as normal, as I have been. You should too. Have fun user. It's fucking nothing.

italy has been in this since december, they were simply not aware of that
over 100k chinese from wuhan were working in italy and were flying to and from there, it spread too a lot of people and most of them didn't even realize
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The only way I'll feel comfortable leaving the house unnecessarily will be if I imagine I'm Prince Philip, returned as a deadly virus to finally build Trump's goddamned wall for him with stronger material still: intergenerational fear.

Oh wow. Tell me about your education level.

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In other words, he's a lunatic who won't be deluded by facts or reality. He also needs to learn some personal hygiene.

you don't understand the point. "flu" is used colloquially as a catch all term for winter illness. Corona is a generic winter illness that's typically called the flu. This year there's a media induced panic so people care about which specific virus is making them cough. Yes obviously there are influenza and corona viruses.

One explanation which has been made for this is that both Italy and China were preceded by a tuberculosis epidemic before this all started.

lewrockwell.com/2020/03/no_author/italy-is-second-country-with-coronavirus-outbreak-preceded-by-a-tuberculosis-epidemic/

According to Wodarg, this is due to the fact that people are going to the hospital for symptoms which they ordinarily would have stayed at home for, owing to the media panic. It is then simply because we are now testing for coronavirus to a much greater degree that we are finding more of it. Additionally, many old people are coming to die in hospitals who previously would have died at home.

Didn't the news say he was hospitalized a few weeks ago?

Inb4 prince phillips revenge

Watch the vid. This is not accurate. There's nothing about China doing propaganda war in the vid. It's entirely about why the epidemiology is based on assumptions, unverified testing procedures, and bad statistics gathering.

Maybe he's already died and come back.

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At timestamp 7:42 he alludes to his views on this matter in an understated way. Understanding that this panic is being used to implement totalitarianism is important.

Is this dude just deluded or genuinely retarded

How much centralized control will it take to look like totalitarianism to you? Already feels pretty tight to me. I've been fired twice for wrong think. I'm chipped via phone, which I'm mandated to carry around by my current abusive employer. No dollar goes unreported. No good books, tv, or music. No chance of escape, and really none of overthrow. This system will only disappear across glacial time, evolving into something worse. But it's not totalitarian yet, in your view?

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it's a perfect situation to implement laws that normally would arouse controversy
also look up the information on moving more US troops to Poland and even a fucking nuke

thanks for the lew rockwell article,
haven't read lew for ages (used to be a lib before I came here)

that's a good explanation.

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