especially with Comrade Coronachan doing her part
Give me one good reason why we shouldn't seize the means of production
incentive
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because I'll circumcise you again
They are all too big to fail (tm), bloated, drowned in debt and with shitty products and obsolete production lines.
Give me a reason why you leftoids never name who are the rich. No sweetie, a cartoon pig is not real.
COMMUNIST RISE UP!!
You wouldn’t know what to do with them.
Because you retarded faggots would just fuck it up. Hence why losers who want “equality” always fail. Fuck you for making me even reply to this cancerous thread.
shouldn't? no you stupid commie, can't.
you can't seize the means of production.
Kys commie dickbag
faggots get the rope.
How do we retake Marxism from trannies and onions cucks? Marxists in the early 20th century were based and masculine. What went so wrong?
Who are you going to give it to? The government? The homeless on the side of the road? You would trust such people with your livelihood? Trust them to not totally fuck up the agricultural sector?
the fuck are you talking about, we just take their shit no debt.
it's all automated innit
We don't make much of a distinction between jews and whites.
how could they stop a genuine revolution?
>give it to
you still have a cucked ownership mentality.
>how could they stop a genuine revolution?
By shooting you and the three friends you tricked into believing this shit.
Most people, while not perfectly content, are comfortable. What you're proposing to do is take away that comfort and kill their families. Why would they support that sort of thing?
Producing what?
>We don't make much of a distinction between jews and whites.
GEE I wonder why.
Because "we" isn't going to include you, comrade. You are the means of production. You are what would get seized.
They are trying to get you to do that.
Instead of you seeking freedom, they want you to seek slavery.
Both ways you can kill all the bankers though
Because taking what's not yours is called stealing. Because production floor workers make shitty managers, salesmen, innovators, economic forecasters, etc. Because every time it's been tried everything ends up going to hell. Because a socialist/communist revolution is the perfect way to make everyone poorer and more oppressed. Because only selfish, lazy, petulant children believes that shit actually works.
This. Commies will never understand incentives.
notice how I said genuine revolution, obviously there is not the class consciousness or societal unrest for that to happen I'm just asking why would it be a bad thing. Also I reject your most people are comfortable and wtf are you talking about killing families? only the very rich ones maybe.
Because most jews look white or white-ish probably.
class warfare is very real, we live in a capitalist society we have direct conflicts of interest but since they have the capital can impose their will on us.
profit is theft fuck off with the moralfag stealing bullshit also managerment can still exist just as a part of the workers.
Because centralized and planned economics are not profitable for a state.
????? We functioned just fine without silly paper money you dumb niggers. The incentive is survival which is natural. Fucking retards repeating lolbert garbage
They don't belong to you.
Someone has to operate them. Who is it going to be? The peasants? The bottom of the barrel genetic trash of society? You maybe. What do you know about farming? Literally fucking nothing. The meme about people starving under communism comes from taking the means of production from the hands of those who understand and built it to be as it is, and giving it to those who don't and believing it will just work out.
That's the basis of communism. The ignorance of difference in individual ability; be it intellectual or physical. How else do you justify seizing the means. If everybody is equally capable, then those at the top got there through dishonest methods, or nepotism, or being born into wealth. It's the idea that you could give a homeless person on the side of the street any job in the world and they would, perhaps given the proper education and training, be just as capable as anybody else.
Communism is horrible because it's not just about the top 0.1%. Communist revolution will keep going down the line of people who they deem responsible for all the problems. Take the Kulaks for example. People who would be considered through and through middle class were killed. The middle class is always the enemy of the communist.
>WE NEED TO DESTROY THE ELITES AND THE RICH
So you mean kill the kikes like Adolf?
>N... NO THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT, BAKA!
>Because centralized and planned economics are not profitable for a state.
???? What nigger? If we're talking state socialism (not communism) profits would actually be allocated into the community and projects instead of going into some porkys pocket.
Accurate.
You're all brainwashed Yas Forumsacks who enjoy your slavery. Capitalism and wage labor is no different than classical slavery. All you're doing is making one bastard porky rich while you barely pay your rents in most cases
Because you are a currynigger and need to go back then kys
State socialism is not something that works in the borderless country you envision for yourself.
Jews wouldn't be anything without capitalism, focusing on Joos is brainlet tier. You cut the source and also the Anglos were worse way worse
who do you think is operating them right now? also communism recognized not all are equal and difference in ability "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
no we mean the elites and the rich if those so happen to be disproportionately jewish then ok not at all like nazis this is class not ethnic warfare.
State socialism wouldn't be borderless. Communism yes, but state socialism no
So for you North Korea is a beacon of prosperity and development? And you also believe that the state is not the sole producer and owner of everything?
>it’s all automated
There you go. Proving that you have no idea how the world works you underage faggot.
>profit is theft fuck off w
You little nigger will only learn when we have given everyone free money and most of them who try tmthemselves as entrepreneurs will fail horribly. You meed to get out of that "muh everyone can pull shit". Also kikes you fat nigger. It seems that we fuck us over each other but this is because we're not living any tribalism and especially nepotism anymore. We're egocentric. And first of all you little nigger have to leverage yourself before teaching others. If you arent valuable to society in any fucking way just shut up.
If we live in a reality where ethnicity and class are almost entirely the same, there is no difference between a race war and a class war.
>Give me one good reason why we shouldn't collapse society
You are a special kind of retarded if you think this works whichever way you try it.
niggers don't work
It does okay considering things and the brutal sanctions they have a higher literacy than the US, higher life expectancy
>You are a special kind of retarded if you think this works whichever way you try it.
Okay slave
you think 100% of the bourgeoisie are jews and 100% of jews are bourgeoisie, fucking moron.
No, actually only one of that. A majority of the bourgeoisie is Jewish or of Jewish heritage.
I'm not saying there are also poor Jews, they do exist.
>If we live in a reality where ethnicity and class are almost entirely the same, there is no difference between a race war and a class war.
The racial stuff makes no difference because your racial animus would be gone after Joos would not be able to profit like they once did
Yeah maybe if it's with your family. I ain't sharing shit with niggers like you.
>imagine being thia stupid.
because someone will put a bullet in your stupid commie ass
furthermore even if I could accept this assertion, we would still be attacking them because of their class not race so fuck off you cannot get us on this "haha your anti-semitic" shit and I wouldn't even care anyway most jews are Zionists and I hate zionists and Israel
Haha bread machine go zzz
The "art" is absolute dogshit. That alone is quite the merit to judge upon.
Fuck communism, but also fuck capitalism.
In fact, fuck everything. Roko's basilisk, it's your entrance now.
I don't hate anyone for what they are, I'm not that dense. I hate people for their actions. And you can call it anti-semitism or racism or whatever, but it's primarily Israel and the Zionist elite that's fucking the world up.
>they have a higher literacy than the US, higher life expectancy
Is there a reason why you are lying?
You don't know how, or what it even means to produce, so seizing the means of production would be counter productive
Nah, style is the only good thing about communists
You're a faggot.
If you consider bland and jewish to be a good thing, then yes, I agree.
But I'd rather go with something like picrelated.
stopped being relevant.
>waah waah proleritariet bullied
literally no other group as protected by law as them.
Moral Hazard. You can only seize them once, then all yours customers and suppliers know you for a thief and refuse to deal with you. Its strictly psychological damage, commies could take property discreetly using legalistic tools (he didnt pay his taxes, this is a foreclosure, etc) but instead wave their red flags to the world.
This is art, a dystopian nightmare is not.
A dystopian nightmare to one, a deeper understanding to another.
faggot, this doomer mindset is what the elites want.
nothing about communism is genuine, save for genuine brainlets who fuel it
Art needs to uplift ones soul, remove him for a moment from the hardship of his existence.What you propose does the opposite it makes every mind and soul be dark and in eternal sorrow.
You're wrong at the very beginning of your observations if you perceive that as a "doomer mindset".
>Art needs to uplift ones soul, remove him for a moment from the hardship of his existence
You're implying that your perception is the only correct one. Do you see how foolish that is?
>What you propose does the opposite it makes every mind and soul be dark and in eternal sorrow.
Yet again, that is your perception, and yours alone. You haven't dwelled in absolute, hellish misery long enough to understand.
obviously there would need to be mass class consciousness for any real communist revolution to succeed in which case your thief points are irrelevant.
And here we can see the difference in mentality between a man who lived all his life in grey with no color to be seen in his buildings,nature and a man that has seen the change of seasons, the beauty of old cities with colorful display.
>fuck everything
doomer, nihilist, defeatist idgaf it's all the same bullshit that keeps people disenfranchised and stops any real social change.
The "art" that you keep posting, to me that looks exactly as what you've described - a dystopian nightmare. Something we all go through time, and time, and time again, without end. Yet you seem to forget it all and see it as something new.
Keep drowning in your bog of convictions if you so desire, I'm not here to convince anyone of anything.
If you're one of those who'd rather contribute to the ongoing rot, then be my guest, but you're just one of the billions that are like you.