99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says

>More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.

>More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.

>The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

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We shut down the whole fucking world for... this? What the fuck?

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Of course those that already had health issues die first. What else did you expect? Healthy people dying first?

most of the world is in shit health anyway, this changes nothing

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Healthy young people won't die from a fucking flu.

Speak for yourself you fat fucking mutt

healthy young people that are healthy because they didn't check their health.
a flu that is actually a virus and causes a decease that damages your lungs.

sure, it won't kill young healthy people... the first time around.

We should do everything we can to protect our non-white italian brothers. Its sad enough they are disgusting mudbloods.

I prefer getting corona vs the inevitable mandatory vaccination

It causes damage IF you get a serious pneumonia.

Stage 1: Shock
Stage 2: Denial
Stage 3: Disbelief
Stage 4: Bargaining < YOU ARE HERE, CUREFAGS
Stage 5: Depression
Stage 6: Acceptance

>this guy had cataracts, doesn't count
>this fella has syphillis, that killed him
>*smacks patient in the leg with clipboard* pretty sure this minor limp is meningitis, if you die that'll be why

There will be enough people (npcs as you call them) who are willing to get the immunization that it won't be involuntary.

I know right?
We're about to hit the worst economic recession in history because of a fucking FLU.

>American
>White

What kind of faggot dies from cataracts for real?

that's the joke, mahmoud

You don't want a Chinese vaccine in your veins? What's wrong with you?

No OP somethings not right here, I am on the fence about it but I refuse to believe that 2.5k people dropped dead from a virus just because they had some underlying condition, that kind of makes the Virus a problem anyway

The only reason I'm still taking Corona seriously is because of the possibility of long-term/permanent damage for infected healthy people who then recover. If a study comes out completely disproving any potential long-term/permanent damage, then I'll start living normally again. Until then though..

>tf
>tp

I wonder if America only did the things they do because it makes the people ultimately more happy and stable. The people have become so riled that they might start rioting if Trump didn't say what they wanted to hear.

Wow 75% had high blood pressure. Wonder how a country like the U.S. where like 50% are OBESE will do..

What about permanent lung damage?

The common flu is a virus too
Influenza virus

Thing that scares me is people might have diseases they don't know about. Plus spreading it to pregnant women, although most will probably be fine.

>What about permanent lung damage?
Show me a source on that.
Hard mode: source must show it wasn't pre existing
Nightmare mode: source must show this is a general trend along victims (pneumonia can cause lung fibrosis)

It means that the dead were on statins.
With artificially low cholesterol.
Eat more fat and survive.

>We shut down the whole fucking world for... this?
What is the age range of most world leaders/politicians user?
Now you know why "the world" is freaked out

It's probably more about the drugs they take for blood pressure, not the high blood pressure itself.

just read that it's not any worse for the pregnant and there was a case where infected woman gave birth without passing the disease to babby

Yeah, but they are getting serious lung conditions if they survive. And that's not counting before it mutates. Which it will.

Will see in aftermath

yeah, but unhealthy young people die from the flu every year

> previous medical conditions
Such as? They're being incredibly vague with this.

> underlying health conditions
> previous medical conditions

Seems to me that can cover pretty much anything from high blood pressure (which most 'healthy' people don't even know they have), to a mild chest infection from a previous cold.

Fuck off

>diabetes
>high blood pressure
>heart disease

most of it is from being overweight.
So only overweight people are dying.
/fit will win again.

Many are intubated right now you lying vermin.
Do you know the percentage of old people with high blood pressure? With some kind of medical condition? It is probably 90%.
Btw the young healthy people who were intubated will now have lifelong "medical conditions" that they have to live with. So shut your fucking hole you SAAMI piece of shit

That was already immenent. This hysteria is a cover story for the depression about to come, it is also a social experiment and will be used to justify more government interference in the daily life. Think 1984.

USA on suicide watch

Every intubated person will have permanent damage. The first major spreader in Italy was a healthy 38 year old marathon runner.

This is the problem anyone who isnt in the inner cicrcle are facing when trying to judge how bad this virus is, theres no reliable information available and lots of contradictory information being released by equally reliable sources.
All the happening and not happening arguments stem from people already having a bias as to what outcome they want/fear will happen when unfortunately the only people who can begin to understand what is really going on are the doctors on the frontline and researchers.
I'm prepped for something to happen, im not married to its happening and we're all doomed.

There is zero evidence that smokers are worse affected btw. None.

do not trust official information
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Yup, there's also been reports saying pregnant women can get more severe symptoms. There's not enough data/studies to be certain.

This. There is a deliberate effort to try to calm people by pretending that if you are young and healthy this will not harm you. Reports from Italian, French and Dutch ICUs tell us this is not the case at all.

Any mild issue. Many old people here gets ten pills-a-day thanks to PHARMAJEWS.

>Every intubated person will have permanent damage.
You are retarded

Nobody is taking into account:

>Europe's OLD population
>The effects of radiation on health
>The effects of chemicals on urban food
>The effects of air pollution
>The effects of mass hysteria

I'm not saying they arent lying about the numbers (how the fuck cant they burn 300+ bodies a day? How many fucking people DIE each day in a country of ANY cause whose remains need to be cremated???)

people with high blood pressure or diabetes don't drop like flies from a flu either.

>99% Italy deaths had other illnesses
So all the habbening faggots basing their "death rate" on Italy are completely wrong? Shocking.

NIGGER, WHY ARE YOU LYING SO BRAZENLY? Look at the fucking OP:
>>More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.
>>More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
>>The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

>"The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities"

Which is a perfectly good enough sample, considering the total number of deaths, if you know anything about mathematics, you dumb fucking ameritard.

they will just starting banging on about how even if you survive it will make you infertile or some shit, they are so desperate for this to be something huge.

you dumb fucking eternal anglo*

Italy is 94% white, you filthy wormsburger jew's asslicker

a) because many of them are eligible for an annual flu vaccine
b) no one is "dropping like flies" from this strain of coronavirus, cases are underestimated by at least 10-fold, hence mortality is overestimated at least 10-fold

once they will spread it in the USA it's gonna be worse than Italy because people are not healthy.

This is a fact. If you are intubated you don't just "recover"--your quality of life is diminished, often enormously so.

You are being deliberately disingenuous. Italy has over 2000 people in serious/critical condition. Many of those people are young, and what happens in a triage is YOU LET OLD AND UNHEALTHY PEOPLE DIE FIRST TO MAKE ROOM FOR THOSE WITH HIGHER CHANCE OF SURVIVAL YOU STUPID FUCKING RETARD SO OF COURSE THE DEAD ARE ALL OLD WITH UNDERLYING HEALTH PROBLEMS YOU DUMB FUCK
More than 50% of France's ICU patients are under 60, and more than half of dutch icu patients are under 50. Kys you lying, verminous heap of excrement.

Half the fucking world has high blood pressure, that’s not reassuring at all

Look if I get to choose what sample of data I want I can make statistics say anything I want them to say thats the first thing you learn on any university level stats course.

>Many of those people are young
GIVE
ME
A
FUCKING
SOURCE

Lying sack of shit

italy is 94% italians
but italians arent 100% white

Okay, give me stats that prove: Good luck fucking retard lmao

> As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.
Talk about a selective presentation of data. What this means is that people between 40-50 who died had no medical conditions, and the under 40s probably had high blood pressure, or asthma. When they are being that dishonest there is also no reason to trust their sampling over direct reports from ICU doctors who are on the frontlines dealing with the actual patients.

am with Sweden, source?

it's not a fucking flu, it's sars!

>Talk about a selective presentation of data
?????????????????
It is a COMPREHENSIVE presentation of data. It is EVERY case being presented.
>What this means is that people between 40-50 who died had no medical conditions
HAHAHA WHAT? WHERE THE FUCK DOES IT IMPLY THAT? ARE YOU SCHIZOPHRENIC?


LITERALLY kill yourself.

easy, I sample 1 person I choose a healthy person from the pool of 0.8% from the article in the OP.
Now I say 100% of people who die from coronavirus are aged under 40.

>This is a fact. If you are intubated you don't just "recover"--your quality of life is diminished, often enormously so.
You're wrong, flat wrong. Hell my mother was intubated for two weeks and she had no diminished lung function in her 60s. I love how the goalposts keep moving. Cv19 kills the young. Wrong. Cv19 causes permanent lung damage. Wrong. Ok ok intubation causes lung damage. Wrong. Faggots.

>they will just starting banging on about how even if you survive it will make you infertile or some shit, they are so desperate for this to be something huge.
/pol used to not fall for this shit

How lucky we are then, that the available data pool allows us to draw more accurate conclusions than your pretend-retard conclusion! Thank you for demonstrating this!

I'm taking it seriously because regardless of the current kill rate, this thing is taking out 1 in 50. The flu takes out 1 in 1,000.

This isn't flu.

They are being deliberately vague. There was a report in the UK the other day that said if you want to use "underlying health condition", then over 40% (FORTY PERCENT) of the UK population would fit that criteria.

Take your chances, mang. You don't give a fuck because you're a zoomer who thinks you're untouchable and fuck everyone else, but you'll live and learn eventually. Right now, it's your kind that's the number one public health menace. You should be shot in the streets.

so you disagree with my conclusion so you reject it. Does this sound familiar ahmed? Are you understanding other people in the thread now?