I have a proposal, outlaw inheritance. Upon death all owned assets are seized, including stocks, real estate, etc. and they are then liquidated and then given to the state for things like healthcare roads, cancer research etc. Pros: >Prevents wealthy elites from simply passing on their wealth to the next in line preventing the pseudo aristocrat cycle from continuing. >Forces said would-be inheritors to start from scratch like their forefathers and stimulates growth as new businesses are formed (provided said inheritors arent just spoiled brats) >wealth becomes a proper measure of ability and ingenuity like it should be and lets them enjoy the benefits of their hardwork in their lifetime. Cons: >People can just "give away" stuff before they die. >No guarentee money will go where it should. >Puts more power into the government.
I havent figured out all the details but thats why I propose this here where people will call me a commy faggot.
You're a commie faggot. How dare you steal a mans legacy and give it those who didnt earn it?
Gavin Parker
What is the incentive to work hard? My dad continues to work and save money so that when he and my mom are dead, each of his 4 children (and thus grandchildren) will be receive a few 100k. If all inheritance were to be seized, why shouldnt he stop working and just leach off the state instead?
Carson Hall
So the rich just put the assets in the healthiest person's name? Seems like an easily defeatable system.
To expound on this; your sole biological imperative is to provide as many resources as possible for your children, take away that incentive and people will be lazy
Hudson White
You work for yourself, duh. If you really deserve it you should earn it by your own sweat. A legacy is what you do while you're alive, other wise it just becomes a weight that future generations will be forced to bear when those that didnt earn their wealth continue to call the shots.
Jackson Howard
>Socialists hurrrr durrr lets give everything to the state we can trust them guys !
Grayson Jones
stop being a communist, work for your stuff instead of demanding it from others just because they were more successful than you or your parents
Parker Gutierrez
>tldr: let's make everyone poor in one generation Just fucking neck yourself retard
Brody Campbell
The government can't even get the DMV right and you think the solution is to throw more resources at them? I think you don't understand the real problems facing the usa, so your solutions are useless.
Blake Butler
Goddamn socialists are fucking stupid
Robert Lopez
By what right can the state take all the assets of a man? It is his property and his right to have it given as he sees fit. Youre suggesting that the government should decide what happens with my money, if i bust my ass to provide for my family then the fruits of my labor should go to those I love and care for not some random problem that the government thinks it can solve by just throwing money at.
Connor Williams
Fuck you, commie
Owen Reed
That is low IQ even for Yas Forums >checks flag carry on OP you're doing fine
What gives you the right to take someone's else resources? kys commie scum.
Asher Powell
In order for capitalism to be a truly fair system everyone should start from zero. The only thing we should pass on to our children is knowledge. Look at Jackie Chan, he started from nothing and became unbelieveably wealthy his son isnt even getting a penny because Jackie wants him to work for it just like he did. Would you prefer your children grow up weak and coddled or would you want them to be able to capable of reaching their goals?
Colton Jenkins
This might incentivize murdering older folks (or at least having them killed off) in order to have the state collect inheritance.
Mason Hill
My billionaire dad will just buy a painting for a billion dollars and gift it to me and I'll sell it for a billion dollars to the next old fart who wants to launder money. Or my billionaire dad just buys me all the luxuries I would have gotten in a will, just before he dies. Your law is too easy to circumvent. It's bullshit. Your answer will then be "no heirlooms either" which is definitely wrong. So you say "we'll set up an independent auditor who determines what is sentimental to the family and what is money laundering" which is putting a bandaid on a problem you yourself created. If you want to fix the problem, fix the problem not the symptom.
And honestly, how big of a problem are rich kids getting daddy's money when he dies? Most rich people are competent and competent parents and raise competent children who can use the money competently. Also, "gives the government more power" is a pro? My assumption is you grew up between poor and middle class and now work a dead end job. You didn't finish college and have no idea what to do with your life. You are jealous of people you perceive as undeserving of inheritance when, logically, most rich kids will not have dead parents until they are old enough to be parents themselves. Whether or not they have a right to what their ancestors want to leave for them, you should focus more on improving yourself so you can leave something for your descendants and stop worrying so much about what other people are doing. They're either benevolent and good or andrenochrome monsters and going to hell anyway.
Cooper Williams
What do you mean by fair? Is it fair that if I work, then the government steals the fruits of my labor?
Yes some people have successful parents and some people dont. That sucks, but the answer isn't to rob people. It is not appropriate for the government to use force to try and control who owns what. If a man works his whole life it is certainly not fair for some politician to decide what happens to his money.
Asher Long
>what is estate tax
this is a revolutionary idea op, you should definitely tell everyone about it
Noah Carter
You're a retarded socialist. Go to italy where you belong
Robert Perry
So your idea is to make it even more impossible to throw off the yoke of an oppressive government. Incredible.
Hunter Martinez
I have a counter proposal. For the state to execute op, and distribute his assets to the people.
Daniel Young
I have a counter-proposal. Get fucked. End of proposal.
Brayden Rogers
I'll just personally shoot you and coup de etat your ass if that ever happens
Julian Gray
graverobbing is immoral
Logan Wright
Everyone middle-class and above would leave the country, you stupid fucking commie. There's no incentive to stay and let the government steal your life's work.
If you want to balance the system, all that needs to happen is that billionaires get audited by the tax enforcement weekly.
Fuck Off. I stand to gain nothing from an inheritance but I disagree. I also hate death taxes.
Dominic Lewis
only a childless faggot with zero survival instincts would entertain this idea
Easton Robinson
>liquidate real estate, thereby including family homes kill yourself sick fuck the state has no business doing shit like this they barely allocate resources properly as it is, as if even a few million from a liquidation would mean jack shit compared to what the government spends on its own
Jason Gutierrez
I vote for this guy.
Jackson Morales
If my kids get none of the fruits of my labor then I quit working
Xavier Peterson
You should be taken to the middle of the road and shot
Fuck You Kushner bot. That is exactly whats going on right now. Trump and Kushner are getting all the probate judges ready to grant guardianship over the sick boomers, get POA and steal billions in Real Estate. Thats the entire plan behind Corona chan.
Caleb Mitchell
How about fuck no! I earned my inheritance "family business" and Im not giving it to some piece of shit loser that never worked a day in their life.
as a father, at least half my incentive is to provide a better future for my children. You are disincentivizing "legacy" efforts
Justin Allen
I think the existence of baby boomers sticks a fork in that argument. We have a generation of people who squandered the wealth of their dynasty on muscle cars and cocaine in the 80s and continue to do so on cruises and $175000 motorhomes today, while their progeny suffer under student loans, a lack of affordable healthcare, and stagnant wages. Hell, even their homes are reverse-mortgaged so they can fund hedonistic pleasures, they made sure their kids will get absolutely nothing when they die.
Maybe your dad is the exception, but the behavior of the generation as a whole seems to indicate that providing maximum resources to one's offspring is not an innate biological imperative.
Bentley Edwards
You're an imbecile.
Michael Russell
Their kids didn't earn the inheritance either
Bentley Kelly
Kill yourself niggerfaggot
Mason Nelson
So everything I work for and save can’t be passed on to my kin? Are you stupid in the head? Get a job leach.
Ethan Morgan
>Father wants to leave rebuilt car to his son >nope belongs to the state >grandma wants to leave her spoon collection to her grand daughter >nope belongs to the state >Mother wants to leave her coin collection to her daughter >nope belongs to the state >Grandpa wants to leave the family cottage to his grandchildren >nope belongs to the state
What does the state do with all these assets? Liquidate them back into the market and use the money for anything from feeding the homeless crackheads to funding the CIA to killing arabs for israel. Yeah people will love this, not that they have a say because they don't know what's best for them amirite
I have a different proposal. Outlaw ANY inheritance or gift taxes. Whatever was bought or earned (and taxed already) can be freely given in full to whoever and wherever the owner wants without giving any piece of it to some greedy motherfucker who did jackshit to earn any of it.
Blake Morris
Fbpb
As if the government could be trusted to where it's best needed.
Look at all socialist nations, Venezuela, North Korea, Myanmar for starters. The elite live very well on the backs of the workers.
Isaiah Diaz
I think part of it is upbringing. They didn't have the internet as kids to show them that travelling is a waste of time, as every country looks the same thanks to globohomo. The rest is a disgusting fixation on hedonism applied throughout every aspect of their lives. Probably the effects of jew media having no competition and other points of view. Multiculturalism actually weakened the grasp of the 'elites'. Think about how the asians frown upon the 'kicked out of the house by 18' dynamics of the west, it's actually resulted in people reconsidering the MSM programming...
Austin Bennett
>I think the existence of baby boomers sticks a fork in that argument. One generation out of hundreds or even thousands means nothing. Boomers are an aberration, not the norm. See other countries and cultures for how its done.
Mason Allen
>Want to care for your kids. >Suddenly, they're homeless because you died.
Ethan Torres
I have a proposal. You stop accepting large black dicks in your ass and then we might consider allowing you to make a proposal in the future as long as said proposal is substantial less gay than this one.
John Smith
That is such a good idea, we should also ban pandemics and stock market crashes. Dude I feel like if we put our heads together we could start a think tank
Julian Myers
Your kids are now leeches.
Jace Morris
Yeah, that Boomer mentality really saved America. Just send them to fend for themselves at 18.
Jose Morgan
YOU GET A HELICOPTER RIDE
Leo Brown
This already exists. It's called capital gains tax and it's essentially a tax on the poor and middle class. Why? Because the truly wealthy have the accountants and lawyers necessary to find a million different loop holes around it. Instead all it does is prevent poor and middle class people from ever being able to build a legacy.
It's an absolutely ass backwards idea for the simple reason that all this stuff (property, wages, stocks, etc.) were taxed once already while the person was alive. To tax it again a second time when the person dies and passes it on to someone else is total bullshit. Stuff like this is literally why people revolt and destroy their governments. Unfair taxation was what lead to the creation of the very country you're posting from dipshit.
Adam Brooks
The real issue OP is that you operate under the assumption that life is a fair game. Lets take your logic and apply it to human sexuality.
Evolution is structured in such a way that some males (incels), will not be able to reproduce or even have mutually happy sexual relationships. Some men are genetically gifted (chads). They are constantly fucking new women. Keep in mind this is all due to genetics, so its pretty much set at birth and early childhood. DNA recombination is also random, so this could happen to anyone.
Should we redistribute women from chads to incels?
Chase Perry
but a big reason people keep going and making money is for their kids and the continuation of family? genetic immortality in a way. why take away that incentive with inheritance tax? i should be able to be buried with my money like the egyptians too
Charles Lopez
Yeah, thats true it would incentivize murder. But on the brig I agree with a majority of your post, my idea is flawed, which is why I posted here asking for suggestions on how to make the system at least feasible in any capacity.
Personally speaking and admittedly with bias, the money should be funneled into education. Unfortunately we dont currently live in a world where you can go to college without submitting to the chains of debt or having your parents pay everything for you. Even scholarships are few and far between, and given that most blue collar jobs will be fazed out with the power of automation, a solution is going to have to be found to prevent whoever owns all the robots from owning the god damn planet. Yas Forums keeps talking about the loss of independant thought but has given no solutions outside of hang the jews for interfereing with our society. Well lame brains jews are kind of the people who benefit the most from inheritance given that 90% of the top 1% of the 1% are jewish. Itd be pretty hard to keep pushing all this societal control when they have a shit ton less money to do it.
Its not about preventing people from leaving things for their kids its about ensuring the main focus is teaching the kids. If you are worth your salt as a worker, your children will have no trouble making their own fortunes with your instruction. I mean honestly, people keep talking shit about kids these days being the absolute worst when all they had to learn from were those that came before. I.E. you.
But im ranting, its like this user, if i'm going to live in a society where schools hammer out any sense of independent thinking and billionaires can buy the government i just want to live in a world where at least the ones buying the government have actually worked their way to it and will promptly stop having said control after the next generation comes in and they fuck off to the afterlife.
Pretty sure we voted to delete that.
Owen Stewart
Exactly my point dumbass. If you're really a superior being than starting at the same place as everyone else will only prove how much better you are. All men are created equal but naturally die unequal. Society needs to return to a survival of the fittest mindset, not a survival of the richest.