A thread for people to discuss China and post evidence or arguments for their claims. Is this hardcore shitting on China truly warranted? It would be great if we had some Chinese to state their point of view as well, but try to be as unbiased as possible. I want to start with some stuff I've been thinking about since all of this started. I became very curious about China.
> IQ & living conditions
Are the Chinese really high IQ or is their IQ inflated by bad sampling, ie. only collecting data from well-off metropolitan areas? If they're high IQ why are there so many parts of the country that look third world, and the people there behave in a third world manner? In what sort of environment do most Chinese people live in? Are the shithole parts of the country the norm or is it the other way around? Is it possible that their median IQ really is 105, but there's just so many of them that they produce a ton of 80-95 IQ people, and that's why some parts of the country look so shit? You would also expect the people to segregate according to IQ, exacerbating the effect. What is the relationship between the various ethnic groups of China and intelligence and behavior? Can we gauge China's true intelligence by assessing their intellectual output, eg. amount of scientific papers publisher adjusted for population?
> Cruelty and disgusting shit per capita
Clips of Chinese people doing cruel and disgusting shit are all over Yas Forums now, but how common is this actually? When you have a country of 1.4 billion people, people are gonna do a lot of shit. How do we know the Chinese do more cruel or disgusting shit per capita though? When you're trying to figure this stuff out you have to adjust for population size. It's unfair to compare China to a country of 8 million people. Is there any scientific evidence that Chinese people are less-empathetic than other races? How much of the cruelty is their innate nature and how much of it is due to cultural/environmental differences?
Many people hate the Chinese for "destroying" the manufacturing industry in their native countries, but can we really pin the blame on the Chinese? After all, the Chinese didn't force us to do that. Many Jewish and White Neo-Cons/Libs (like the Chicago boys) advocated for a global free market and against protectionist policies. Then our own private companies decided to move manufacturing to China because it made economic sense for them. They saved money on labor costs and we got cheaper shit, but many people would now argue that it definitely wasn't worth it. Manufacturing in China became the norm because we allowed it to become the norm, large companies had to do their manufacturing in countries like China to stay competitive. Point being, I don't remember the Chinese putting a gun to our heads and making us do this. Our elites made that choice. Our elites empowered our economic rivals.
> Treatment of Employees
The Chinese have a notorious reputation when it comes to this. However, are such things truly unique to them? Were conditions really better here back in the day when we had even children working in the coal mines? Even to this day, some companies in the west (eg. Amazon) have a bad reputation for underpaying, bullying and overworking their employees. Naturally, I don't think that Amazon is as bad as Chinese sweatshops, but modern China is a younger country, so it would make sense that they would have to catch up to us in a lot of ways. If we saw the conditions our ancestors used to work in, perhaps we would be appalled. If our societies went through that period too, do we have the right to moralize about it so adamantly nowadays when China is going through the same thing?
That's about it for now Frens, I'm probably gonna take a nap. Hopefully this thread doesn't just die instantly because no one has anything to say. I'm just asking questions, please correct me if I'm wrong about anything.
Justin Reyes
Its just special interests shilling as usual. Both anti chink and pro chink. And now the neocon warmongers who's master need another war to fuel the MIC.
Colton Wilson
>And now the neocon warmongers who's master need another war to fuel the MIC. Crazily enough, they're calling for nuking China, which would cause both China and Russia to retaliate immediately. I don't understand the purpose of this shilling at all.
Kevin Nelson
I understand that, but I'm genuinely interested in China as a country. I want to assess China on my own terms.
Tldr Chinese shills are all in twitters comment section. They try to clean chinas image but its really fake sounding and only the normiest of normies will believe it. That being said 60% will believe it, fuck.
Ryan Moore
The current situation demonstrates exactly what is so dangerous about China. The state controls everything so deeply, there can be no effective safety culture around things like bioweapon research. See also: Chernobyl. But these states will 100% conduct that research because glory to the great nation of . Shitting on the Chinese people and their weird-ass way of life is a waste of time. Who fucking cares. The state gave rise to that, not the other way around.
