Since the hysteria around coronavirus has been showing up, there have been inconsistencies in the symptoms for everyone who gets it. This has caused me to question why exactly this is happening, and why some countries/people seem to be getting hit with a life threatening version of this while others are almost completely asymptomatic. Well, after doing some digging, I was able to stumble across a post that talks about how both ITALY and WUHAN were dealing with severe tuberculosis outbreaks prior to the "outbreaks" of Covid-19. It states:
"In a prior report I cited the pre-coronavirus outbreak of tuberculosis in Wuhan China coupled with culling and incineration of herds of pigs infected with African swine flu that created aerosolized pig waste particles that infected humans with a Mycobacterium tuberculosis. Tuberculosis is largely a lung disease that kills 1.7 million humans annually. TB may be the origin of this deadly infection as normally coronavirus produces mild infections. Tuberculosis fills the lungs with fluid and the patient drowns in their own secretions. That is what is happening in Wuhan. ... Italy’s Prime minister Matteo Salvini claims migrants have brought on this TB plague to his country. News reports dating back to September of 2018 cite Salvini’s assertion that a TB “invasion without rules or controls” has swept through Italy, carried by indigent migrants seeking asylum in his country." (1)
Generally, coronaviruses do no cause severe symptoms. In the vast majority of people, it seems that symptoms are almost non-existent. Sure, some people have more serious symptoms, but all public cases so far have been very benign. Additionally, at the beginning of January, there were reports coming out of Wuhan of a "mystery virus" that supposedly causes tuberculosis... Now think about that. Do viruses magically just give you tuberculosis? NO. That's because the issue IS the tuberculosis...
"The Wuhan health authorities reported late on Thursday (Jan 16) that a 69-year-old man, who was first taken ill on Dec 31, died on Wednesday at the Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital in Hubei province after his symptoms became more severe on Jan 4, with pulmonary tuberculosis and multiple organ functions damaged." (2)
"Two people have died from the virus, including a 69-year-old man who died on Wednesday after the disease caused pulmonary tuberculosis and damaged multiple organ functions." (3)
The crazy thing is that TB does not always immediately present itself. It can remain latent in humans for a while:
"It is not necessarily newly arriving migrants that are carrying TB, masquerading as COVID-19 coronavirus, to Italy. TB can remain in a latent state in the human body for many years before it erupts into disease symptoms." (1)
Does anyone have any opinion on this? I am trying to figure out the discrepancies in symptoms, they are way too wide ranging and it doesn't make sense.
Have you meet the user that says it’s a fungus? You two would get along great.
Joshua Robinson
Read my post you absolute fucking retard.
Kayden Robinson
>both ITALY and WUHAN were dealing with severe tuberculosis outbreaks prior to the "outbreaks" of Covid-19 sorry OP. I didn't read your post. I take it back.
Brayden Perry
just did. my bad.
Gavin Smith
Tubercolosis is a Bacteria not a Virus you dumb nigger - it's easily tested for, they use what's called a bubble test. Fuck you're a stupid cunt.
Alexander Diaz
aporogy accepted.
Jace Thompson
MAC Mycobacterium Avian Complex is pretty common in peoples lungs and doesnt present itself unless the persons immune system becomes compromised
Colton Rivera
I didn't get a TB vaccine so I'm okay.
Leo King
>TB vaccine wat >Today, the only effective tuberculosis vaccine in common use is bacilli Calmette-Guérin, first used on humans in 1921 huh. neat.
Ian Robinson
It could be that the virus is weakening the immune system and activating latent TB among older patients.
I think you are just conflating co-morbidity with causation. There are of course many respiratory viruses, and you can of course catch more than one at a time. Preexisting conditions, including TB, can make people more likely to suffer worse symptoms, and spread it more. For example, if I have TB, I might be spreading this new virus earlier than I would have been because Im coughing to the maximum from day 0.
Colton Robinson
Wrong. People with TB also had coronavirus. CV was not cause of death.
My point is not that coronavirus is completely harmless. If you over 65 and unhealthy, it may not treat you very nicely. I am simply saying that the inflated death tolls in Italy and China are for some other reason that Covid-19 specifically. >Preexisting conditions, including TB, can make people more likely to suffer worse symptoms, and spread it more. This is my point really. That's why Wuhan and Italy are getting fucked. There are likely cases of latent TB in the populations of both that are making their situations worse than they have to be. There is no other reason why the deaths in Italy are so high and they are almost non-existent elsewhere.
Xavier Turner
Makes sense with all the mass immigration from shit countries over the past few years.
Elijah Gomez
Beautiful. I didn't even consider Iran in this, but that makes a ton of sense.
Aiden Gomez
If true, India is going to be a nightmare
Ethan Martin
Well, damn. Good job OP. You've done better detective work than every country in the world right now.
Aaron Gonzalez
I have Cystic Fibrosis and because Of this I’m resistant to TB. Maybe I’m resistant to this virus as well.
Juan King
No. No he really isn't you absolute retard. The Canada fag had it right. Viral does not equate to bacterial.
Thomas Baker
>I think you are just conflating co-morbidity with causation. There are of course many respiratory viruses, and you can of course catch more than one at a time. Preexisting conditions, including TB, can make people more likely to suffer worse symptoms, and spread it more. For example, if I have TB, I might be spreading this new virus earlier than I would have been because Im coughing to the maximum from day 0.
this makes sense
James King
You haven't read my post retard.
Isaiah Allen
Now we just need to print some more money to fix this situation.
Thanks. None of this was making any sense. I don't know that I'm right, but it makes way more sense if this is what's going on.
Jose Foster
Yes. Yes i have. CXR will reveal if Tb is present. Do you think carriers of fucking wuhan virus don't get a CXR?? Are you fucking serious. I hate when Yas Forums thinks they have medical degrees because they read medscape
Hunter Powell
Bump for an actually good thread.
Anthony Cooper
Norway, I don’t think the angry red color on the left mean part of the graph means what you seem to be construing it to mean... Can you post the graph with the legend?
Fuck me roy, i'm risking alot here. Two weeks ago when I did a stetch at a hospital there was an ICU patient on isolation for a TB rule out. Theres some other details I cant give out but bottom line is me and another joked about how the hospital coordinator didint think they needed to be swabbed and have blood sent in.
ALSO, havent seen anyone mention it but our hospital protocol requires 4 large vials of blood on ice to be sent with nose and throat swabs to CDC for testing, Not sure if thats useful but the vodka enemas are telling me it is.
Is this bait or are you retarded? People diagnosed with Covid-19 getting chest x-rays if their symptoms are bad enough. Pic related is of someone in Vietnam. I'll post a TB xray next...
Then, yes, in that case, you are right. There is a strong correlation that helps explain the imbalance we are seeing in death tolls - beyond the “hurr-durr some non-whites are lying about death tolls because their evil chinks, but South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan are telling the truth,” and “whites don’t get it except the worst place in the world to be right now is northern Italy... the whitest part of Italy.”
John Reyes
>t. Literal fucking retard who doesn't jave any type of medical anything Quit bumping your own thread nigger. Anyone coming into my ED with sudden or acute dyspnea gets a CXR at the BARE MINIMUM.
Christopher Miller
He never claims otherwise. Read the Posts and the links you double-nigger. Learn something. This makes perfect sense.
Camden Walker
And I’m sure you work at an ED. Faggot
Thomas Wright
Coronavirus mutates into different strains very easily. This is also why Italy gets absolutely shat on by it, but by comparison other places like the US seem to have a much milder version.
Kayden Smith
Co-infection YOU ignorant pleb. Fucking shut your mouth and lurk more child!
Michael Harris
This mutation factor is also why travel restrictions and lock down are critical.
Brayden Turner
Fuck i give up on you faggots. Screenshot this: you faggots are the biggest believers of pseudoscience bullshit, making Alex Jones seem rational amd sane. This will not amount to anything but more hyperbole and snake oil, and everyone here will to believe this nonesense is an absolute simpleton.
Asher Ramirez
> import the third world > get third world diseases
No shit.
Jaxson Thompson
So, India and South Africa next?
Parker Powell
Oh fuck.
Ryder Sullivan
I'm not saying that this is totally unfounded, but I haven't seen any evidence to show this is the major cause of discrepancies in symptoms other than conjecture by "health authorities" (if you have any sources, I have no problem being proven wrong). The US has quite a bit of international travel, it's hard to believe that the more violent strains wouldn't have made their way here. Why do we just magically get a mild version?
Ayden Morgan
Just a flu bro.
Ethan Young
I don't know what was killing people in wuhan, or italy, with covid to be honest. But I know that here in the states it turns to organ dysfunction and DIC. it's why we're running out of blood. We needed to start triaging this shit weeks ago, but we haven't. So I've been stuck at code medical for 3 days now wasting blood on boomers that we should have just gassed instead. Generally though, what I'm seeing isn't consistent with TB. it's not fluid that's the problem.
This. Trip fags are faggots confirmed. Need to wait awhile longer to see if India/Soufrica get hit harder and faster
Owen Ortiz
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