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>Syria
Putin and Erdogan discussed in a phone call the implementation of the agreements reached during the meeting in Moscow on March 5, - Kremlin
>Iraq
Iraqi Kata'ib Hezbollah militia praises rocket attack on Taji Base that killed 1 Brit & 2 Americans.
>Egypt
Egyptian Foreign Ministry: The Ethiopian Foreign Ministry statement regarding the Renaissance Dam lacks fitness and diplomacy and involves an unacceptable insult to the League of Arab States
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Houthi claim downing Saudi-led coalition drone over Yemen Hodeidah
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.@CENTCOM's Gen. McKenzie on whether the Taliban are adhering to the Doha agreement: "they are honoring some not all of their commitments.attacks continue at an unacceptably high rate across the country" but notes that there haven't been attacks on Coalition forces/cities

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Pierogi edition

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>Large US military convoy enters Syria from neighboring Iraq

>A large U.S. military convoy has entered Syria from neighboring Iraq this week, the state-owned Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) reported on Sunday.

>Citing local sources, SANA reported that a U.S. military convoy, consisting of 62 trucks loaded with military and logistical supplies and accompanied by 11 military vehicles, entered the Al-Hasakah Governorate from the Al-Walid crossing.

>The U.S. convoy was said to have made its way to a military base in the Al-Hasakah Governorate, as they they look to strengthen their presence in Syria.

>This move by the U.S. Armed Forces comes just a few days after the so-called Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL/IS/Daesh) carried out several attacks against the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in eastern Syria.

I have a feeling the SDF and USA are making fake ISIS "attacks" to make an excuse for US presence in Syria. The US just wants to stay in Syria and prevent Russia/Assad from wining.

What do you guys think?

Hey guys I made a redrawn Yemen/Saudi Arabia map, but got carried away. The blank parts are incomplete.

This map assumes Zionism is obliterated, Saudi Arabia/Qatar rulers are defeated, and some population transfers will/can happen.

What do you guys think?

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why are you such a fucking nigger?

I think Tanf niggers are raiding SDF outposts to make IS presence seem real.

>al fucking retardedlandi
it's not like ISIS hasn't been very active there for years now, it's not like ypg themselves have been complaining about them for years too and even saying that those areas are de facto under ISIS control during the night
fucking brainlet

I love pierogi

>it's not like ypg themselves have been complaining about them
Only tribal militias under US funding have been reporting it. YPG stays in Hasakah, Qamishli etc and keeps their orifices shut
>that those areas are de facto under ISIS control during the night
You think USofA has a problem with pretending they're arming the wrong jihadis?

Oh for fucks sake , first the roaches, now the burgers. Will this war never end???

Whats the year this map is supposed to be in?

>Only tribal militias under US funding have been reporting it. YPG stays in Hasakah, Qamishli etc and keeps their orifices shut
oh yeah "local militias" whose leaders speak kurdish and who praise oc*lan at every possible event
sdf wuzn't ypg which also wuzn't pkk, right?
>You think USofA has a problem with pretending they're arming the wrong jihadis?
wtf do you even mean? i'm talking about things that have been happening for years now, if you trully followed what was happening in that region you'd know that it is the most active region for ISIS in syria with palmyra
i do too, no need to spam it on every thread

MUH ISLAMIC STATE OF SAND
BWAWAHAHAHAHWHWAHWAHAH

That is the thing. The SDF saying this and making up bullshit to make excuse for US to stay.

As long as US stay the SDF is powerful. So it is in SDF's interest to keep making fake claims about ISIS so the US have a reason to stay.

ISIS got rekt by the YPG years before Assad. Also the vast majority of locals with the YPG atm.

The only thing the locals oppose the SDF is making peace with Assad.

In the 2030's.

Put some names on that map buddy.

Hero

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another jew in a sloppy mossad job for the dumb goy golems to worship, many such cases! sad!

based

Here are the names. The blank parts of the map are unfinished. Syria will get Hatay and Kurdistan others part. Also many new countries will be made or parts given to new countries (Ex: Iran gets Bahrain and Western Afghanistan).

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Tastelets don't knw about my Kaburga Dolmasi.

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ok this is based

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this too

I'm liking how this has evolved with the information you were given. Also I dig the return of the Sultanate of Mahra and Socotra.

Good job user. Though I'd still attach tihama to the interior imamate, purely for economic stability.

dez mmc isn't, those guys are basically an fsa group waiting for erdogan liberation

based

>fucking brainlet niggers talking about things they have no clue about and making up conspiracy theories
i'm fucking tired of this brainlet era
the masses should be forced to stfu and not give any opinion on things they don't know

what about the iranian arabs living in iraq before they got forcibly deported by the ba'athist regimes? do you think they should stay in iran or go back to iraq?

Lads, Egypt will become a player sooner or later in Syria, the thing is in what way. Speculations?

Leader of DeZ MMC is a Sunni sectarian who used to work for the FSA and ISIS and doesn't give a shit about Kurds. He considers turkish occupied regions to be 'liberated' and literally recruits arabs from Euphrates Shield to work in DeZ. It's because of these guys that SDF will never see the full income from the US occupied oil fields, and it is largely presumed the US leaving would lead to this group declaring a new ISIS

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Abu_Khawla

>Rashid Abu Khawla is a commander in the Syrian Democratic Forces

Kurds were too small to beat ISIS, so they let some ISIS join them and whitewashed them.

They should stay in Iran. They came mostly from Karbala, Najaf, and Basra. Even if we sent all 650k of the Persians to one of those cities they'd still be less than 35% of that city's population. Maybe they could settle Azerbaijan or Bahrain. I already planned to put the Ajam of Kuwait in Bahrain, (As well assend Sunni Bahrainis to Qatar, and send Hasawi Bahraini to Hasa, and annex Bahrain to Iran).

Thank you fren.

I also wonder that about Tihama too. A guarantee from Tihama to keep Hudeidah open to North Yemen no matter what might alleviate that, but I'm not sure. The concern about adding Tihama would be adding a significant Sunni minority (I did the math, I think they were around 30% and that was excluding the very northwest part of Yemen's Tihama with Maliki that I gave to Asir, pic below related).

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>Even if we sent all 650k of the Persians to one of those cities they'd still be less than 35% of that city's population
but that's the thing, they're not really Persian...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqis_in_Iran

Gents, what do you think Lebanon and Syria should do about the disputed Sheeba Farms?

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You're not incorrect, both the Egyptians and Turks used Tihama as their entry point into Yemen and their most loyal army there. The withdrawal of those powers enabled the interior imamate to overrun the coast; but when the Mamluks and Ottomans were gone, Gamal Abdel Nasser once again used them as their fifth column. Even Tareq Saleh's advance on Hodeidah is once again exploiting this minority in order to cut off interior yemen from the coast. A guarantee would work, but Tihama has very little strategic depth itself. As part of the Kingdom of Yemen it worked with the interior to make a viable state, from the fall of Ottoman control up until the rise of the Yemen Arab Republic.

>On Iranians
What about pilgrimage routes? I doubt there would be any point in removing educated Shia from control of the shrines on a racial basis. Shia structures are very meriocratic. And Iraq is classically Shia. Further, if Sunnis in Iraq are given autocephaly, they often use it to barbaric ends, unlike the nationalist Shia who are able to work with Christians and other religious minorities easily.

Would Jazira just incite wars?

Kurds really need to solve their DeZ problem, but they literally lack the manpower, and rely on these forces to control DeZ in their absence when they're fighting the Turks. Imagine how awful it would feel for the Kurds, if while getting killed by the Turks, their DeZ buddies not only didn't show up, but joined the enemy, destroying their proto-state in one swift move.

We already know they operate independently of Kurdish command; it was not Kurds who order them to attack Assad, it's Americans. And their ISIS buddies do cross border attacks, which is what led to the US bombing of ISIS hunters when those cross border skirmishers returned to DeZ

>Further, if Sunnis in Iraq are given autocephaly, they often use it to barbaric ends...Would Jazira just incite wars?
1. I think you have the wrong word; "independence" is more accurate.
2. Indeed, there's no coincidence that Jazira looks almost like ISIS; it would be a neverending campaign.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqis_in_Iran
Shia Arabs and the few Mandians go to Iraq. Kurds go to Kurdistan. The Ajam ones get to stay in Iran.

>You're not incorrect, both the Egyptians and Turks used Tihama as their entry point into Yemen and their most loyal army there. The withdrawal of those powers enabled the interior imamate to overrun the coast; but when the Mamluks and Ottomans were gone, Gamal Abdel Nasser once again used them as their fifth column. Even Tareq Saleh's advance on Hodeidah is once again exploiting this minority in order to cut off interior yemen from the coast. A guarantee would work, but Tihama has very little strategic depth itself. As part of the Kingdom of Yemen it worked with the interior to make a viable state, from the fall of Ottoman control up until the rise of the Yemen Arab Republic.

It's less about the military threat they pose and more about how being under a Zaidi-dominated North Yemen (And possibly an Imamate) may cause unnecessary unrest. Rival tribes might use the as a Fifth Column or foreign powers as you described. In my view bribing them with leadership and giving them independence plus a treaty with North Yemen would more likely secure peace.

Even with little strategic depth and roughly 25-35% of the population, the Hudeidah Sunni could be a thorn in North Yemen's side from a guerilla war/riot perspective.

>What about pilgrimage routes? I doubt there would be any point in removing educated Shia from control of the shrines on a racial basis. Shia structures are very meriocratic. And Iraq is classically Shia.

Clerics like Al-Sistani would get to stay. Exceptions would be made for special cases like clerics, diplomats, etc.

(Cont.)

1. That is closer to my meaning, yes. But as well these Sunnis consider themselves self-ruling part of a larger group; though by taking imperial control they are kind of recognizing themselves as the head of it in the form of ISIS; while as SDF they are dominating their region while reluctantly cooperating with a light infantry force that is friendly with foreign powers.
2. The Zenegids tried to rule this area too and clashed with local powers a lot; even when they did share religion with them. Kurds are just small in Syria - 5%, and the rest is Kurdish Turks. That's why the PYD seems to care about Turkish interests more than localized Syrian ones, they aren't even from there.

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>There is a large population of Iraqis in Iran, including Iranian citizens of Iraqi origin or descent, as well as Iraqi citizen expatriates. According to the 2001 Iran census, there were roughly 203,000 Iraqis living in Iran;[2] a UNHCR report counts 204,000 Iraqis living in Iran.[3] The actual figure is likely to be much higher than this, perhaps exceeding 500,000, as many Iraqis gained Iranian citizenship while in Iran.

>I already planned to put the Ajam of Kuwait in Bahrain, (As well assend Sunni Bahrainis to Qatar, and send Hasawi Bahraini to Hasa, and annex Bahrain to Iran).
how would they adapt to that when originally they came from:
>They came mostly from Karbala, Najaf, and Basra


i didn't mean to say they're not persian, but the fact that no one sees them as persians

when people say persian they think of sassanid empire, fire, zoroastrian, anti-arab etc, how will they come to terms that iraq has more then just iranian kurds and they have different groups of iraqis with iranian origins?

you are essentially forgetting about the work these people put in to make iraq what it was
you're forgetting ctesiphon, baghdad, all the things people of persian origins in iraq participated in
don't they get to go back to karbala?

>Further, if Sunnis in Iraq are given autocephaly, they often use it to barbaric ends, unlike the nationalist Shia who are able to work with Christians and other religious minorities easily.
>Would Jazira just incite wars?

Those wars are caused by Zionism + Wahhabism as well as anger with Baghdad. Jazirans causing war is always a risk. But as long as Zionism + Wahhabism are out of the picture and Sunni Arabs have independence there would be little reason for a war.

The Jaziran areas were selected for independence for historical reasons as well as to keep them from messing up Iraq or tipping the demographic balance in Syria.

she looks as an african queen
she eating twelve chapattis and cream
she tastes as mongolian lamb
she coming from out of bahran

she like to be married with yeti
he grooving such cookie spaghetti
she jumping as mexican bean
to make that her body more thin

she catch patagonian pancake
with that one and gin party makes
she having always good contact
she making with apple and contract

Give it all to Lebanon

>how would they adapt to that when originally they came from:
>>They came mostly from Karbala, Najaf, and Basra
Only the Ajam ones would undergo that. I'd trust them to be even more at home in Iranian borders amongst other Shia than in Iraq.

The Ajam of Kuwait didn't come from Iraq. They came straight from Iran.

How would these small states defend themselves from larger powers like Egypt? In many ways, this is already the question in Yemen today. Houthis dominate because they have the loyalty of the best of the Republican Guard and their highly motivated light infantry. STC is failing because their small areas lack enough foreign sentiment to be taken seriously, and are as a result dominated by the foreigners.

Confederation? A really big arab league? How do you keep borders like this stable and protected from external invasion? Cantonments band together for a reason, even when cultures aren't shared. Survival.

Sufi Ba'athists Saddamists opposed both Zionism and Wahabism, and still managed to be a pretty bloodthirsty group, though they are a unique case. That would at least not be ISIS/KSA/FSA though.

Assuming zionizm is obliterated, the Levant should be one country: Syria, Palestine, Amman, Lebanon are all one.

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>you're forgetting ctesiphon, baghdad, all the things people of persian origins in iraq participated in
>don't they get to go back to karbala?

Didn't those Persians just become ARabized and intermarry with Arabs?

Diversity + Proximity = Conflict. Large numbers of ethnic minorities is to be avoided whenever possible. Plus it's easier to keep them where they are. I understand there's an emotional attachment, but that has to be considered last. You belong with your own people more than you belong to a piece of soil.

This land I give you.. from the river nile to ahvaz..

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Does anyone have that photo of the tiger getting kissed on the cheek.

>n*gulus
>twitter.com/___leomartins/status/1239675139303800834
u bouta get raped the fuck up
1350 prisoners escaping in br*Zil

are the fatanon?

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>How would these small states defend themselves from larger powers like Egypt? In many ways, this is already the question in Yemen today. Houthis dominate because they have the loyalty of the best of the Republican Guard and their highly motivated light infantry.

Which specific country would invade them and why would they want to? Yemen isn't resource rich and would become a Vietnam situation for any invading power.

Saudi Arabia only invades because Yemen's current borders cause internal conflict and because Saudi Arabia's imperialistic borders make it nervous about Shia on their borderlands turning the Saudi Shia against them.

The new borders would solve this.

>Sufi Ba'athists Saddamists opposed both Zionism and Wahabism, and still managed to be a pretty bloodthirsty group, though they are a unique case. That would at least not be ISIS/KSA/FSA though.

But they needed the Wahhabis when ISIS was invading. The 15% of Iraqi Sunni Arabs can't take on the Iraqi Shia Arabs that outnumber them about 3 to 1. Plus why start a war when you have independence?

I thought about that. But Palestine/Jordan would add a lot more Sunni Arabs into Syria's borders. That might cause problems. In addition the Maronites are fiercely pro-Phoenician and anti-Greater Syria. Also the parts of eastern Jordan and Iraq have bedouin who would fit in with Shammar more than Syria.

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Actually no

I don't fucking Cares about São Paulo
Paulistas deserve every single shit

Wrong tiger. Still kek tho

nah, Karbala should be split between Shia Arabs/Persians
you're forgetting they were forced out of their homes

>Didn't those Persians just become ARabized and intermarry with Arabs?
depends but recently the ba'athish regimes tried doing exactly that, arabizing the region and deporting iraqis with persian origins
they lived in karbala, najaf and basra

it would be foolish to not put them back where they belong before a puppet maniac leader decided to commit genocide

>criminals respect province/city borders
u bouta get raped, they haven't seen a single woman for years, and in brazil, men are often women

>karbala should be split
but every land is karbala, everyday ashoura

Threadly reminder to the Shia belongs the Mandate of Heaven

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of course
step by step

Actually no

Most of these dudes are from PCC (Hezbollah-linked Terrorists) so they won't come for my state, since that my State is already dominated by Paramilitaries linked to Bolsonaro himself.

Anyway
São Paulo deserves this entire shit
João Doria isn't doing nothing to crackdown on PCC or in Hezbollah sleeper cells.

Fucking cuck

>it nervous about Shia on their borderlands turning the Saudi Shia against them.
And that's a good thing

>Saudi Arabia only invades because Yemen's current borders cause internal conflict
it's true
the build up was happening for decades and exploded during the Arab spring, though the world only cared about Libya, Iran, Iraq and Syria while forgetting about the rest like Yemen, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia..

Hezbollah. - terrorist
Look a kike lover, what are you doing here?, don't you need to suck more jew cock?

Jazira was already a de facto reality once

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>nah, Karbala should be split between Shia Arabs/Persians
>you're forgetting they were forced out of their homes

Why? Just give them new homes in Bahrain or Azerbaijan (Bahrain would 100% Iran, 50% sure Azerbaijan would be too).

>it would be foolish to not put them back where they belong before a puppet maniac leader decided to commit genocide

They belong more with their people than to Iraq. And they only entered there under Safavids while the local Iraqis are indigenous Arabized Arameans/Chaldeans.

Yes. But it would be better if the Saudis never had those Shia territories in the first place. It makes the region unstable and 95% of Saudi oil comes from the "Hasa" area. No oil, no international Wahhabism and Saudi imperialism.

Yup. Diversity + Proximity = Conflict. Suppression and bribing the local population can only hold a fragile, diverse country together for so long.