German scientist explains why Corona-crisis is a hoax!

His questions are legit. His response "this is naked," is unwarranted. China made a huge movement to stop its people, shut down trade, stop education.
Even if this is nothing as a disease, and they knew it was fake, that suggests something else might be going on. Practically speaking, I will accept the lead, supply myself with goods and prepare for a time of being hunkered down. If this is a disease that causes serious problems, then we'll be right where we ought to be.
If this is a political game, and there was nothing about this to warrant the shut-downs, then I'll be near where I want to be.

That said, there are political reasons for China to attempt to tank the global markets. And there are plenty in London who want to do this as well.

>hurr durr he's a retard
that's pretty much the best argument you'll get

I wonder how the propaganda industry will cope with their loss of credibility and attention. Fake ET invasion?

All of this shit is fake. There are now all these stories of black rain from burning bodies, a woman stuck in her house with her dead husband for days. This is all so jewish it’s like fake holocaust shit.

they will do as if nothing happened and it wasn't their fault, and double down on more retard stuff like muh russia, whyte sypremists, orange man bad. aren't you used to it yet?

he doesn't work for Merkel.
people who used to work for goverments are usually more credible sources because they're in the know and don't give a fuck anymore.

He's a g*Rman and therefore shouldn't be trusted under any circumstances

Is it really a hoax, or are people saying its a hoax so more people will be infected... What level of jewing are we on. Its all so confusing!

It's only a hoax until a certain percentage get infected and everyone knows someone. Right now we're still low but numbers are rising every day.

what a fucking shill
people who work for governments are in there because they are THE MOST loyal to the hand that feeds them, not because they are specially telented or experienced at something
Look at our politicians, specially in your garbage country.
One has to be deeply retarded to believe in a politician or one of their pet rats.
France will have it worse

I'm celebrity 328B. I think I might have COVID-19 and am voluntarily self-isolating. You should mimic my behaviour.

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>because they are THE MOST loyal to the hand that feeds them
Drosten, the virologist in charge here, said that the German government overreacted.

But thats the point. Maybe its not intentional at all but just a case of mass panic. In this case worldwide mass panic that was triggered by a Chinese mass panic.

What's he selling?

Tainted adrenochrome of course
Oh man that suuuuucks. If only we had some kind of thing that lets millions of strangers from all over the world communicate and relay whether they in fact know someone who is being killed by this horrendous--Oh fuck wait...

What’s also strange some hospitals in Lombardi claim they still have ICU capacity and the rest of Italy also isn’t terribly effected, which leads to the question why don’t they bring them there. They claim they have only flown 50 people somewhere else. And an estimated amount of flu deaths of roughly 65000 a year in Italy. All together rather strange.

> aren't you used to it yet?
I'm more tired of it than used to it. I just keep wondering about all those shitty assholes that bought a 10 year supply of toilet paper thinking the boogaloo was about to happen and they could sell a roll of TP for $20. My guess is they will be really pissed off.

>Literally every other country reports 3% CFR.
>Even China.
>Even fucking Iran.
It's a hoax.

He's just a coping boomer.

Hes a jew

he selling nothing, thats whats scares me. He gives very good arguments why this could all be a case of global mass hysteria. Also the way South Korea ''quelled'' this flu and brought down the death rate by massive testing makes his argument more strong

>If only we had some kind of thing that lets millions of strangers from all over the world communicate and relay whether they in fact know someone who is being killed by this horrendous--Oh fuck wait.

And what would that matter? Then we can simply explain awayanything we dont like as "fake" "China lies" "look at this video of some junkies overdosing on the subaway, they died of Corona!!1!"

Eh, but just a few hundred years back people would regularly congregate believing that Jesu return was at hand. Cant be helped.

It's even funnier we already had two Yas Forums threads with people claiming they had it. They refused to post their paperwork but Yas Forums believed them. This Taiwanese sparkling wine appreciators forum isn't great when it comes to decide what to believe and what not.

If he was right, wouldn't be the death-rate static, instead of rising like it does?

is that harry potter?

Even the China numbers, in his point of view: Wuhan is a city of 11 million. A reasonably contagious flu breaks out in this city and about 3000 (mostly elderly) people die -this is in itself not a scarily high percentage-. Now, many of those people could have had Corona when they died, but they also may have had many other illnesses. Yet, the Chinese were in mass panic TESTING all those who died for Corona, and since this quite contagious Corona flu was going around, they thought we have a very scary disease going around. But, many of those deaths could and would have happened anyway in a population of 11 million, maybe from another seasonal flu for instance.

> Flag: Germany
Roach opinion: Discarded

The foundation of his argument is that coronaviri are common and make up part of flu season every year. He only addresses the novelty of this particular strain once, when he asks whether or not this is actual a new strain. He does not present any new studies or information to counter the claims being made. Essentially his logic is that we have to wait and see how bad it is before we can say it's really different.
The death rate explanation is true, but yet again, nothing new. Other deaths could be mixing into the equation, testing procedures, previous risk factors, age distribution of population, fubbing numbers, ect., are already a consideration for anyone taking it seriously. However, at no point did he say death rates were not increasing compared to previous years. This point is never touched on despite there being data from previous years worthy for juxtaposition.
His explanation of why it's pushed so hard is that virologists want their piece of the government subsidy panic pie after seeing how lucrative global warming was for climatologists. This makes perfect sense, and is true as well. Absolute no brainier for anyone with an IQ above room temperature.

He's basically just saying people that scientists require data to make predictive models. There isn't enough reliable data for anyone to be sure at this stage, so anyone saying they know shit is just trying to make a quick buck. Then there is some music to make it sound like a more impactful statement.

Seeing as how he provided no meaningful information aside from his opinion, the entire thing is an appeal to authority. I haven't bothered to look into death rates and expectations for this time of year, but I'd be willing to bet the number is higher this year, which is why it never gets mentioned in this video. That alone would discredit the foundation of his argument on a mathematical level.

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It's what Harry Potter looks like after being infected with Coronavirus.

seasonal flu's come in waves. Just like this Corona.

This
And i‘m already sick of retarded brainlets hoarding toilet paper
If this goes any longer i might stab some of those fuckers

Lmao you toilet paper hoarders never fail to make me laugh with your pathetic corona chan threads. But you really dont have enough toilet paper yourselves. You are on the wrong side of history, tp rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, get over it losers.

this is the biggest, fakest gayest hoax since global warming

Austrian Economists like Peter Schiff have been predicting, for many years, that a worldwide economic collapse would come in 2020. By that I mean a complete reset of the global financial system--fiat currencies and the stock market plunging to nothing. This virus, if it is a hoax (and I don't know that), would be the perfect cover for such an event. The elite class will not now get any culpability from the public, because the economic situation, which is really due to Keynesianism and Central Banking, can all be blamed on the virus.

Another consideration is that this virus is giving rise to authoritarian measures on an unprecedented scale. People are being forced to stay inside under penalty of murder-charges, and we are already seeing suggestions of forced vaccination.

These are some of the arguments in the OP's video, as summarized on Wodarg's website:

"The current Panic has nothing to do with illness or epidemics. All flu-watch indicators just show baseline data. (normale Werte)

Neither in China nor in Italy nor elsewhere extraordinary cases of severe illness are registered. (see above)

China threatened its people and the world just for two months in Wuhan and staged how to detect, hype and fight an epidemic. European states follow that theatre and are isolating each other.

In Europe the economy is breaking down and human rights are forgotten, while China has just stopped those useless tests and declares the crisis from now on as a foreign problem.

Europe is paralyzed by panic and China is smiling.

We are currently not measuring the incidence of coronavirus diseases, but the activity of the specialists searching for them."

wodarg.com/

I can tell you right now that in the As the CDC says there are in between 22.000 en 55.000 flu deaths per year. Thats on average 105 flu deaths per day. Seeing how Italy has a much smaller population and they reported 366 deaths in one day recently it does seem like he's wrong, BUT... as i understand it flu comes in seaons, and so the deaths are not equally spread over the year. Also, you may seriously question if all those thats are Because of Covid, or, that those people all died and we just measure for Covid and atribute Covid for their deaths

Isn't the panic also because of the high rate of complications for the infected?

As= USA

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>tp rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months
Which only means that either the government will seize them and redistribute them to the public, or angry neighbours will just should preppers in the head because they won’t like running around with a stinky arse

It could have been a legit panic in China as well.
or this, much sinister reason behind it: the economic collapse switch

>People are being forced to stay inside under penalty of murder-charges

Only that this hasnt manifested anywhere, not even in China.
Even then, i somewhat fail to understand what would be so horrible about this. It would mean even our "Elites" have recognized how incredibly unsustainable our system is and finally enact the reform that are so badly needed.

wait this is literally a type of SARS that causes acute AIDS and that's why our dollar is collapsing... in case the rest of the world hasn't gotten the news

>what is lockdown?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryke_Geerd_Hamer

>Ryke Geerd Hamer (17 May 1935 – 2 July 2017) aged 82
>Hamer claimed that his method is a "Germanic" alternative to mainstream clinical medicine, which he claimed is part of a Jewish conspiracy to decimate non-Jews.

Hello...? What have we here?

learninggnm.com/SBS/documents/five_laws.html#Five_Biological_Laws

It seems that Ron Paul is saying the same thing as Wolfgang Wodarg.

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Former Republican congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul claimed that Coronavirus may be a “big hoax” and wondered why Democrats are so suddenly quick to give President Donald Trump new powers.

“It is ironic to see the same Democrats who tried to impeach President Trump last month for abuse of power demanding that the Administration grab more power and authority in the name of fighting a virus that thus far has killed less than 100 Americans,” Paul wrote in a column for his site.

dailycaller.com/2020/03/16/ron-paul-claims-coronavirus-big-hoax-trump-democrats/

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One more thing to that:
If this really is a Chinese strike, it is targeted towards America.
A society taht is always on the brink of total chimpout even in normal times and has no welfare system to mitigate economic collapse.
At the same time, they are currently gaining an even larger foothold in Europe by acting as saviours and sending aid shipments. The damage to European economies and new favour the Chinese gain will make it easy to push the mutts influence out of Europe and eliminate the last ourptost they held outside of their own territory.
Either way, good riddance to the mutts.

What would you guys prefer? The situation being contained in the next two or three months or everything getting out of hand with tons of videos with bodies piling up in hospitals and more widespread panic?

"the effect proves the cause!"

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>"the effect proves the cause!"

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Everyone assumes China can't be trusted. But why do we assume Xi is incompetent? So far, this seems to have helped Xi's and Putin's political needs more than it has hurt them. The same is true for Italy's increasingly totalitarian "center-left" coalition. Nations that have been friendly to Trump have done very little testing, and have seen very little interruption of life. San Francisco, Seattle, NYC and Chicago have had the strongest counter measures. For how much the press is politicizing the issue, and for how many (foreign IP) anons seem to be repeating the same talking points about how bad the US health system is, I am increasingly inclined to think that there is an astroturf panic campaign going on.

does not expalin why Lombardy/Wuhan ran out of ICU wards.

Well, the US IS bad. It's basically an extension of indentured servitude what you have there now.

>we can't give you proof because otherwise you would die so you have to obey
perfect logic

we actually have a pretty big welfare state in the US. about half of households get some form of govt assistance. the screwjob is on regular working Americans that earn 2 -3x the official poverty rate that get nothing and have to fund everything.

>Also the way South Korea ''quelled'' this flu and brought down the death rate by massive testing makes his argument more strong
Or maybe it's because wearing masks in their culture is seen as normal, so they do it, whereas in Italy/Europe/USA no-one does it? It's easy to quell when you take the R0 down to ~1.

that's hearsay, especially in the internet age.

A fucking German. You autistic retards destroyed Europe. Spain>Germany

I am king brainlet. Can someone explain this too me in retard speak?? From what I understand he is saying, its a clerical error.

Set up camp in front of a hospital and count people going in and out.

and Ron Paul is a doctor.

>holocough
>beer virus
keep the memes coming.
we have to undo that shitty habbening now

Claims were made in the last thread that, owing to the media hysteria, the cause could be panickers and hypochondriacs flooding the hospitals. Is there any credibility to this theory?

Another question concerns the validity of the data. If the ICUs are getting flooded, why have relatively so few people died? Why do we sometimes hear that this virus only affects old people, and on the next that half the people on life-support are under 50?

Whether the coronavirus is real or a hoax, one thing which I do know for certain is that the suspension of civil liberties we are seeing is extremely dangerous and alarming.

>indentured servitude

...taht included your landlord being contractually obligated to feed you in case of famine, keep your house and the rented land in order, supply you with tools and arrange marriages for your children so your line persist. On top serfs have successfully sued their landlords (often into ruin) countless times. The Imperial Archive in Vienna conatins half a wing dedicated to nothing but court papers from cases like this Modern America is just plain old slaver, humans traded as cattle.

>we actually have a pretty big welfare state in the US.

Welfare for corporations doesnt count user.

Your attitude is disgusting
You are such a spineless little bitch

AHAHAHAHAHAH
yes
reality is a hoax

(Fear and panic cause disease)

How is he coping? He is a Boomer .he would be one of the first to die if he is wrong.

If you had a leaf flag that would be perfect

>tfw Trump is playing along just to get dow + 10k in one day and set the record for 50 years

>Modern America is just plain old slaver
I wanted our Murrican brother here to slowly come to terms with his system and not just drop a truth bomb on him...

>Whether the coronavirus is real or a hoax, one thing which I do know for certain is that the suspension of civil liberties we are seeing is extremely dangerous and alarming.

None of these are in any way extendable beyond the crisis or sustainable. They had to shutdown the entire economy to suspend said liberties and invoke every emergency clause constitutions across the continent allow.
Besides, increasing Authoritarianism is generally done to keep together a system n the brink of failure for a little longer, there would be next to no reason to do this beyond a transitional period if the ELites truly plan a reform.
And weve long crossed the point where its either reforming or going the way of the Romanovs.