Were the Gods actually REAL PEOPLE?

Nephillium means fallen in hebrew

>"gods" of Norse and Celtic mythology were real people
considering 99,5% of what we know about these mythologies are some memes written down by christian monks literal centuries after the religions went extinct I wouldnt count on it

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Possibly. We have a lot of certainties on history, while in fact we created nice stories on the found evidence.
Hypothesis :
Let's say you have a group of people during the stone age or even earlier, that managed to reach middle age tiers technology, and some of them travel, with their steel weapons and armor, and some settle among more primitive tribes. Unsurprisingly, such people would become the leaders in no time, and seen as godlike by cavemen. Generations later, through oral tradition, they are now seen as gods, and people pray them so that they bring the same proportion of prosperity they did back then. Centuries later, there would be so many interpretations and changes in the story that no one could guess all started from a rather unusual, but in no way supernatural, event.

I believe fallen angels and bi pedal apes are the origin of the non white races.
Devil + eve are where jews come from.
Fallen angels + whites were killed in the flood and hunted down and killed. They are extinct

It does make sense. All those stories of battles, surely were written for some reason? Just like the stories of Jesus. They were real warriors, and the people who worshipped them are their descendants.

People is a very loose way to describe it but yes my man, yes

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>early Indo-Europeans (Aryans)
nope

The Gods were the planets, which were once much closer.

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They were nephelim.

However since they intermixed with the populations they conquered, maybe that is why there were no more pure people like them? Pure not as in racial, but power and strength.

First of all, all of the Indo-European ancient religions were connected and had similar themes to them, Roman, Germanic, Greek, Celtic, Baltic, Romanian folklore, Hittite, Early Hinduism and the religion that gave rise to Zoroastrianism, they all shared mostly the same gods and similar stories, such as a storm god fighting a Dragon, or the divine twins. In all mythologies these figures are seen as GODLY beings existing in the early days of the world. Odin, Zeus, Rudra, Perkunas, Etc Etc.

Well, the more linguists and anthropologists tried to reconstruct ancient Indo-European language and culture by connecting the dots, the more they noticed certain cultural features present within the proto-language. Of these things was bravery, strength, a reluctance to harm animals, invocation and ANCESTOR WORSHIP. Ancestor worship extending to ones own living parents, who were worshipped by the child, who would be then worshipped by their own children. This alone doesn't point to the Gods being real, but it sets the stage. There is more, much much more.

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No it fucking doesn't lmao

Why would they be fallen angels?

Yes it does

"Nephilim" seems to be based on a root word meaning "to fall" and has variously been interpreted as being derived from their low moral state, their savage violence and cruelty (they fall upon their foes) or their descent from fallen angels.

Much more likely though is that it's a loanword from Aramaic, naphal, which just means giants, as reflected in the Septuagint (Jewish Greek translation around 200 BC) which has "gigantes" which is also what the Vulgate has, means giants too.
>t. theologyfag did a paper about it

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>ANCESTOR WORSHIP.
Exactly. These people are worshipping their ancestors who conquered them. This isn't /x/ tier by the way, it's common knowledge.

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OP's point is that root IE pantheon WAS real.
celtic, nordic, greek, vedic pantheons are later mythologized reinterpretations of that root pantheon

I believe there is one God who is the same "end" God for every religion who has been interacting with different civilizations throughout human history and through time cultural twists and flair were added because most of our lives were 100% oral.

Christianity is the world's largest religion, so God is using the apocalyptic stories of Christianity to get our attention because He's going to ascend and save us from ourselves.

This in no way diminishes ANY religions and can satisfy all religions. It's perfectly reasonable for God to give us a list of universal beliefs to have (which are seen throughout cultures throughout history) then leaving them alone and letting them add inconsequential cultural flair.

>shaddai - mountain
>shaddaiyim - breasts
Weird language. Got a funny feeling about this ancestor worship and all this eagle symbolism.

>>reddit

What bugs me the most is the peculiar similarities between nordic runes and hebrew alphabet and also the legend in norse mythology about odin going down on earth and nailing himself to igdrasyr, the tree of life before being speared.
kinda spooky

This. PIE religion was based on real people. After it was introduced to different regions, it changed.

please join me in this heartfelt prayer for all anons that clutter up the board by starting threads that are in clear violation of the page 1 stickies

dear lord god in heaven,
please smite every faggot that posts offtopic shit here with coronavirus that wipes out their parents, grandparents, wives, and children, but leave the OPs of such threads alive to ruminate over the errors of their shitposting ways.
in the name of your son jesus h christ we pray
amen

Prove it wrong then. It still makes Christianity 100% valid because God MADE a covenant with the people. So descending down as Jesus Christ when he is needed the most and dying on the cross is still valid. God can do anything.

It's basically impossible to say if there is any historical basis. There's a tomb of Zeus in Crete, but "Zeus" is etymologically connected to Deus, Theos, Tyr, etc. and seems to just be a generic Indo-European root for a god. Moreover most of these gods are idealized versions of what their culture expects, e.g. Jupiter (Zeus-Father) is just the personified concept of kingship, power, justice, authority.

Maybe they're based in antediluvian heroes or ancestors but it's so far in the past one cannot tell.

So the planets are further away now. Are they no longer the Gods?

Its because they are ancestors of Abraham. Descendants of adam, that’s why the crossover exists. Hebrew, greek, and gaelic are all similar.

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Men had God-like powers back then. It wasn't aliens, it wasn't technology as we know it. It was us. Go out and redeem yoirswlf in Mother Nature and have faith in the Father.

The quest started reading about connections to the proto-Indo-Europeans (proven in 2015 to have a Steppe origin) and their direct followers the Scythians/Aryans ancient religion in the mountains of the Caucasus. It would make sense right? If the Proto-Aryans originated in that region, surely it must contain some of their oldest beliefs in some way?

Well it was true. But the folklore figures of these mountains weren't described as Gods. They were Men. The biggest, tallest, strongest and bravest of all mankind. Who spat at God and declined to be his subjects. But they were clearly described as Men, not Gods. Men who could stand up to Gods, men who wrestled Giants into submission, men who practiced noble deeds, but not Gods. They were clearly described as if they were a real clan of ancient peoples.

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Nibbas be thinkin gods must be all powerful, or that an all-powerful God couldn't create lesser gods and still be all-powerful, ya feel me?

>Indo-European
>Norse
>Celtic
>Greek
KEK!

You are cringe. I didnt even finish reading your post because the sounds like shit from a 6th grader. You have a universalist/globalist mindset. Heaven isnt multiracial or multicultural

We were closer to the source

Please delete. Your pic related are Geto-Dacian peoples, not steppe-nomads.

but the crucifixion of odin is more than that, its prophetic, i mean even without reliogion, the crucifixion of jesus is historical

the gods ARE real user. you know what they say - there is only one. some think this means there is only one god, but in truth it means there is only one universe, the mortal world does indeed matter, as this is where all life in the universe resides. the gods are merely of a higher dimension. as above, so below. as to them being real people, it is possible that the their mythos derived from the golden age, where they walked among us. we now live in the iron age, where there will be no help, for we have forsaken them.

Norse and Greek mythology both have two sets of gods. The older set is related to nature, fertility, and agriculture. The newer set is related to war and conquest. The older set of gods are from non-IndoEuropean people who were conquered and subsumed by the invading Indo-Europeans, who brought the new set of gods.

>forsaken
>stopped believing
You're talking about egregores right? Like how El Shaddai met some guy, then introduced itself as Yahweh to the next person it met? (Moses iirc)
It's been speculated that egregores can consume one another and grow in power(?).

Abraham was an astrologist and tetragrammaton was the name for God in Hebrew. I am CI but don’t fully understand these things

These are known as men of renown in the Bible. The book of Enoch further talks about this race as the sons of God, eg. fallen angels entered into human women to produce these hybrids.

What’s funny is that westerners think the concept of multiple gods existing is crazy even though Paul literally talks about how gods walk among us on Earth and in Heaven. So yes they exist, but they are not The God the Father.

>Heaven isnt multiracial or multicultural
There are no races or cultures in Heaven. God would have zero concept/care for Time, which is proven to be an entirely human concept. You're the one who has to take everything 100% literal and refuses to dig deeper. I guess you think God is only 5000 years old (Again, He would have no concept of time) and was just hanging out for humanity's existance.

Yeah probably, many gods we’re probably famous people from the past and their stories distortions of oral traditions of their deeds, I’m fairly certain that the Egyptian gods are literally just pharaohs why the Egyptian people deified.

I hope this actually has an answer, I couldn't find anything but speculation on the web.

Basically, the story of Odin hanging from Yggdrasil is very similar to that of Jesus on the cross. Here are the stories broadly:

In order to learn of the runes that are used to control the worlds odin hangs himself from the great world tree Yggdrasil, and stabs himself with his spear. He forbids the other gods from helping him, and he then hangs there for 9 days, staring into the dark waters below, after which he gains the knowledge he searched for. Doing this was basically him making a sacrifice of himself to himself, a sacrifice that made him worthy to obtain the knowledge he wanted.

Jesus is put on trial by the Romans and sentenced to death. He is put on a cross, on which he claims his father (God) has forsaken him. He dies, which is confirmed by stabbing him with a spear. He descends to hell, but comes back after 3 days, after which he has sacrificed himself (basically to himself in a different person), after which the sins of the world are forgiven.

(Note these may be somewhat loose interpretations and include things added by religions based on the texts instead of being in the original texts)

So the similarities I see: Both are being sacrificed by hanging from something and being stabbed by a spear, are in darkness (hell/the dark waters below) for 3 or 3x3 days, without help from other deities, having now sacrificed themselves to themselves for the greater good.

Now supposedly the Odin story is older, but as far as I'm aware we get it from Snorri Sturluson, who we know has added some christian motives in his other works (the Prose Edda for example).

Are there any reasons to think the Odin story is not based on the Jesus story? And if so, is there any way the Odin story could have affected, or shared an origin with the Jesus story? Or is it just a coincidence?

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Yahweh is saturn bud. He’s trying to take back control of the cosmos. In truth he cannot, his power is constrained now and can only rule mortals, and so he has destroyed all traces of the true gods. so they are now seen as mere comic book heroes, and would truly take a spiritual divine renaissance amongst aryans to awaken the gods and cast off saturn’s reign.

Wow imagine that, religion in general are guidebooks on life outlying extraordinary people in extra extraordinary stories.

>you have to be 18 to post here.

"Myths" are what they don't want you to know about.

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If aliens planted us here we wouldn't have spics or niggers, etc.

No! Nun told me SkyDaddy who is all powerful, all knowing, the beginning and the end, gives a shit where you stick your dick. I must no question my narrow view despite my religion clearly telling me to tolerate others. Now let me go pray to Jesus's mom, heathan.

Begone fool

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Christians distorted and converted thousands of germanic/norse runes to fit their own monotheistic view. This is drastically different then their treatment of greek/roman mythology, whose worshippers were genocided. As such, you should base your study of theology on greek texts that survived the purge rather than the corrupted runes and folklore of scandinavia.

>to igdrasyr, the tree of life before being speared.
>kinda spooky
I didn't know this.....

Man i used to be a hardcore atheist untill i took DMT.
On my first trip i was shown everything i desired (happy life, family, wealth, long life...) and at the end i died and the big red letters spelling "greed" appeared, and i was sent straight to hell, it was eternal torment i cant really express it woth words , but the worst was the absence of any hope, like in life sometime you can find a way to leave but there it was just useless you could try to look up, cry for help, the only response you would have was the certainty that you are alone and hopeless forever.

On my second trip i was shown many things and honestly i did not understand more than 30% of it, it was mostly showing me some other dimension building, with books, knowledge and also other buildings with very dark stuff i instinctivly fled. Then i was brought is some kind of church were there was a fake image of jesus, like a jewish obsequious pacifist, with the grail on a table, i went to him and through his chest a portal emerged and i was sent straight back to hell, but this time there was an escape and i went through many corridors and rooms before arriving in front of and entity, giving me his hand, i took it and immediatly ascended high.

On my third trip, my atheistic conviction were mostly gone and i decided to pray for jesus to help me, and basicly converted to christianity.
This time i was brought directly in front of jesus, everything was golden and like i experienced eternal torment i felt his infinite love, exponentialy growing as i thought it was already the best i could ever feel, it was already 100 times better.

Everything was golden and then he showed me his pantheon, it was like a golden cathedrals with holy crosses and all the saints, crusaders in their tomb, old kings and knights, and among them was st Louis in his tomb and Hitler holding a banner.

He wants us to fight, and after that showed me that we should do so with justice and the love of our people in our heart and not hate for the ennemy as it is sin of wrath and leads you to death both in this realm and his.

God the Father - He from above is Anu

The g-d of the kike that wants everyone else UTTERLY DESTROYED IS ENLIL

The serpentine figure in the Ed.En is Enki.

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Schizo tier image.

Alright, now go BEYOND your programming and clearly dissect how that supports your argument. You can't just throw down Bible verses out of context and say "I win". Please, explain.

>tfw no Giorgio in entire thred

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user ill do you an even crazier one
they are your anchestors
shaped by conflict and war
made strong by embracing conflict
they are you

I imagine some sven got astronomically lucky at some point in the last thousand or whatever years, and in the middle of a raid the guy he was mugging got struck by lightning. And from that point on he was known as thor.

Explain that nephilim fallen angels thing please

What's more interesting to me is that if there is a direct link between Odin and Jesus (ye Zeus?), Odin had children. And one of them kills the world serpent. So...Jesus' kids?

God only created one race. Adamic race. Read about the wheat and the tares. Seeds that the heavenly father DID NOT PLANT

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The Christian story was written several hundred years after the fact.

i belive that dwarfs elves and other races that appear in diffrent mythologies were diffrent kind of species also

think about this, myths were basicly a form of spoken history. look at neanderthals. how early homo sapiens could describe fighting with them. we basicly drove them to extinction. look at greek mythology, who zeus overthrown.

More like the gods are ethereal beings that get physically incarnated or merge with the people of their respective ethnicities or races. I suggest reading The Golden Bough by James Frazer.

Basically, we are the gods and we are our ancestors and descendants. As long as we are honorable, we will undergo bloodline rebirth, returning to life as a blood relative whether he be your own direct descendant or the descendants of your close relatives.

>Seeds that the heavenly father DID NOT PLANT
So, a book written by man states that God is not all-powerful. Yeah, I'll throw that into the trash.
>Adamic race.
Okay, at no point did God state that Adam/Eve were the ONLY humans. Do you tards really believe that the entire human race is the product of incest? Genetics (Which God would be an absolute master of) prove that narrow-minded view wrong.

>Were the Gods actually REAL PEOPLE?
No, they are relative allegories. Common language.
This is what the naive cannot understand. Simple minded people that have to take everything literal.

>written by man, not by God
>old testament too so Jesus definitely didn't say it
>out of context
>taking it literal
You're the reason why religious people get made fun of. Actually think behind the curtain for once if you actually want to glimpse the true awe of God.