There's no denial that America is a great country, but the drawback to America's greatness would be its cities.
We often see people here shitting on how trash the urbanization is, but what some perceive as bad, some others perceive as good.
How do you personally see America's urbanism? What would you change? How would you compare it to Europe and even South America's? Are the politicians to blame?
What are your thoughts on America's urbanism?
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Hopefully this will be a courteous, civil and interesting discussion. But knowing Yas Forums, my expectations aren't that high.
Suburbs are there because people didn't want to live around niggers
Necessary to protect white people from nigs.
I don't like it either, but unless we are a homogeneous society, suburbs are here to stay.
It's pure cancer.
I'm in favor of mixed-use development for upper middle class Americans.
Man everyone is blaming nigs, but do you fucks really want to live in shoebox just because it's next to other white people?
Fuck off, living space and cars are great quality of life improvements over public transportation.
it's the most superior urbanism and best that exists
there is nothing to change because it's literally the best
we have smart people doing this shit
much smarter than anyone else
This might sound retarded, but again, I'm not American... Don't you think the inner-city (I know lots of people shit on it), where the older houses were organically built, where there's lots of trees, and houses don't look all the same, is way more interesting than the soulless suburbs?
And probably the most negative aspect I see is the death of family business, people don't live near shops, stores and so on like here in Europe and even South America. You get everything done at the big corporations, those huge mall strips.
But yea, can get the "getting away from niggers".
I'd prefer an apartment where everything is 5 minutes walk away. America would probably be less fat if we didn't have to drive from the suburbs, but the nigs and homeless make that hard here.
Suburbia has always been a plague
Can you be more specific as to why?
As an American, when you think of the ideal city what comes to mind?
America would be less fat if they ate less garbage.
I'm in great shape and I drive everywhere.
I'll take my 4000sqft home 30 mins away from downtown over a tiny cuckbox
Better than the average euro commie block. But in the US i would rather spend the money on a farm.
Suburbs look fine except for the lack of privacy and how far away the are from the city. I wouldn't drive 15-30 minutes for a beer or shopping or whatever. For me, it's city apartment + rural house for vacation only. That's peak comfy.
it gets you away from the darkies
It's obviously better than the communist blocks in Eastern Europe, but not by much.
The same concept was adopted by American suburbia, only difference is that instead of buildings they are building houses. Of course the houses are better, but you get what I mean.
They are all soulless, pre-fabbed constructions, no history, all look the same (NO FUCKING TREES ON THE STREETS, and in this regard EE is better).
Just mass production, like everything in America.
(Not trying to shit on the country, I like it a lot, but that's certainly the downside.
As someone who lived there, no. The old houses are shit, theyve been neglected since the 40s and only niggers live there for a reason. Theyre small, they were built before air conditioning and heat existed so they are inefficient which means it takes an enormous amount of money to heat and cool them. They may also need those systems to be retrofitted which can cost more than the house is worth. I liked the goth aesthetic of those 1800s inner city mansions but the running costs were high as fuck and i lived a block away from ghetto niggers which is unavoidable regardless of the city no matter how white it is because thats where the niggers reside even if its a small population, all of them are there.
What do you mean by lack of privacy?
How does that differ from an apartment, which I feel like you lose way more privacy over a suburban house?
Your neighbors can all see what youre doing, its better than an apartment but still it isnt 100% private
Really appreciate the input
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Youre welcome. The close proximity to niggers is the worst part but paying $4000 per year to fill up an oil heater from the 1950s is no fun.
Explain to me why I should care about the history of my house? If it's built to suit my life that's what I want
Also they are well built, the fact that theyve survived 75 years off nigglect proves it. Theyre just inefficient as fuck and ratty looking
Inferior to rowhouses + apartments.
Apartments don't have to be small either, for 500k you can get a lot of floorspace outside of city centers, of course there are no aparments outside of city centers in america. 500k buys you like 3000 sq ft of apartment in Portugal and don't tell me Mexican labour can build them cheaper over there.
Rowhouses can be packed at very high densities and maintain this quaint feel, here's something I made based on what I saw in Zurich, each block contains 4 adjacent rowhouses
I personally don't see that as much of an issue. When you say neighbors can see what you're doing, are you talking about the backyard or inside the house through the windows?
To me the only way to escape the loss of privacy is going 100% rural.
Are you allowed to put up fences and walls in the backyard and in between the houses like in Mexico and Eastern Europe or there's some sort of legislation that goes against that?
And are houses in inner-city built more far apart or roughly same distance from eact other?
>Inferior to sharing a wall/ceiling/floor with someone
>Inferior to not having your own yard
>Inferior to not being able to restructure your house to the way you want it
Why are Europeans like this?
It's a damn tragedy,Should had fought back the second nigs started moving in and destroying neighborhoods
What great use you'er making of that 4000sqfeet by posting on a mongolian basket weaving forum.
They can still be made of cheap materials, and would be even cheaper than a detached house since it all houses share walls and use up much less land. Each house gets 2 parking spaces in front so no garage. Density is over 10000 people per sq km. Massive gains from utilities being packed together. Stone roads optional but much better looking.
Its not, most people keep to themselves. Unfortunately HOA faggots have a lot of restrictions on what you can do which sucks but generally you can install a privacy fence. Our inner city houses are generally very close together, yes. They have decent sized back yards with detached garages though which is nice. If the homes were in better shape and there were no niggers i might go back
See -It's much cheaper to share walls, just get more soundproofing
- Every house gets it's own backyard, they just look like one big house, but it's actually 4 adjacent houses made to look like that. It's based on something I saw in Zurich
- You're not going to restructure your house
MY HOUSE BIG
ME FIT TEE-PEE IN MY BIG HOUSE
I don't see how owning such a big house (assuming you live by yourself) is a smart thing to do.
Sure, back in the day when people had lots of shit to keep themselves entertained, that's understandable, but nowadays people spend the vast majority of their time on electronic devices and don't make full use of their space.
Combine that with lower fertility rates, big houses are overrated and end up becoming a burden, in my humble opinion.
The backyard. But now that you mentioned it I'm sure they could see through the windows too. The problen is, nobody knows you in a commie block but I'm sure everyone knows eachother in small communities such as suburbs.
>Are you allowed to put up fences and walls in the backyard and in between the houses like in Mexico and Eastern Europe or there's some sort of legislation that goes against that?
In rural areas yes but only if we talk about some chalet in the middle of nowhere or a very small urbanization. Small towns are different tho. But I'm sure you can in all cases.
>And are houses in inner-city built more far apart or roughly same distance from eact other?
Pic.
Why are foreigners constantly dick measuring Americans? Can't you just enjoy your own country if its so great? Why the inadequacy?
That shit looks expensive. Affluent part of the city or an average person could live there?
How many kids do you have? If you live in a 4000sqft house then that is sad.
Not once did I say my country was great, the fuck you on?
Its expensive because demand exceeds supply
Those are the legacy of the civil rights era in America. Whites left the cities and would literally rather rebuild civilization again from scratch than live around niggers.
the rootless cosmopolitan
Nothing wrong. Just needs some trees. Each house could easily have a couple kw of solar too.
We have similar looking blocks in our older cities in the northeast. Pic related is acorn street in Boston but other examples can be found in Philly, NY, Baltimore, DC, etc. Unfortunately everything we've built since the 60s was for the express purpose of fleeing niggers and maximizing profits of Jewish landlords.
Suburbs are the worst of both worlds. Don't have the land to grow your own food and be close to nature, but still have to drive several miles to get anywhere. And the ones built since WW2 are soulless as fuck with nothing but lawns and McMansoins. They are peak burgerpunk.
FUCK AMERICA, EAT SHIT
My 95 year old neighbor grew up on a farm and told me you could easily feed a family with food grown in a normal backyard
How big is a "normal backyard"?
Mine is 1/2 acre
Imagine Park Slope or Carroll Gardens brooklyn but it's 95% white, that would be nice
What country, OP? Also show flag
There are still some /comfy/ small towns.
Chicagoan here. I can honestly say that in the 80s and early 90s the city was great. The niggers knew to stay in their shitty neighborhoods or there would be severe consequences. Look up Jon Burge for an idea of how Chicago cops dealt with niggers during that time span. That type of policing was the standard norm in most all surrounding suburbs as well. It was safe, clean and there were tons of events that were honestly fun as fuck. Long story short urban life without niggers and illegal spics running wild is actually quite nice. And we all know (((they))) are to blame.
This. The way I see it, if you can't piss off your front porch and shoot in your backyard, you might as well have walkability. Of course, we don't live in a perfect world.
Urbanism is necessary for the techno-industrial system and therefore it's negative effects on humanity will be ignored for the preservation of the system. Uncle Ted was a visionary and if you aren't Tedpilled, you're willfully blind.
>knowing Yas Forums
You don't know shit.
Function over form.
Again, what county is that memeflag?
>There's no denial that America is a great country
Slide thread.
Death to the #1 colony and #1 enabler of jewish power and interest in the history of humanity, the fattest dumbest retarded greediest faggotest nation of rootless mutts on the planet. Death to Jewmerica.
Fuck off kike. Only mudslimes believe the bullshit you're peddling. America is the only fucking hope
My mom used to have a garden and some tree that grew mangos, oranges, and lemons but being Florida all those trees got blown down from hurricanes so we can't grow our own shit anymore.
>America is the only fucking hope