Redpill me on the Holocaust actually happened

>redpill me that it did.
That would be a blue pill niggerfaggot.

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>not wanting a total war, a war more total and radical than anything that we can even yet imagine
what are you, gay?

what do you mean by didn't happen?
Do you think the Nazi weren't anti-semetic at all and that the entire thing was a hoax?
Do you believe that they were put in camps, but only for slave labor and that they weren't exterminated?
Or do you just think slightly differently about the whole thing like there being no gas chambers, but that the undesirables where intentionally killed?

Niggerfaggot spotted

I think zionists sacrificed unwanted jews to found israel

You make it hard for me by it just being an image that I can't green text, but I'll try anyway.
>Many survivors were proven liars
So? many more were never klied to our knowledge
>International tracing service found no documents referred to extermination
You think the Nazis would be blunt about wanting to commit a genocide? Remember that the Nazis never admitted how the conditions of people at these camps were to their own citizens going as far as making propaganda movies to say that they were just fine. They wouldn't just out and admit it in documents.
>no enigma code shit talk about extermination
same as above, they wouldn't be so transparent
>Airplane reconnaissance showed no signs of extermination
What would be a sign of extermination you could see by airplane? I don't get this oen
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explain, how would that work?

I really hope that this isn't a bot thread. If it isn't I have more files to post for anyone who's interested.

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It happened, but the treatment of the Jews and the total death toll was extremely exaggerated. Deaths were more a result of allied bombing of Nazi supply lines

>International tracing service found no documents referred to extermination
What about the Posen speeches by Himmler?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches
>I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It's one of those things that is easily said: 'The Jewish people are being exterminated', says every party member, 'this is very obvious, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're doing it, hah, a small matter.'

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>5
I don't have an answer I don't know much about the gas chambers. But I will say that you don't need gas chambers to still have a holocaust. You can still exterminate without it.
>6 more gas chambers
sorry, if you want to discuss that you would need to find am expert who would be willing to explain this to you.
>7 logistics don't add up.
Too vague. Does this mean the million or the 11 million? Because much of the 11 million were never sent into camps, that number includes poles killed in massacres and in war, as well as many other killings the Nazis did.
Also I think this pic is underestimating how easy it is to kill people, and overestimating the sanity of the Nazis.
The Nazis were a group that were complete fanatics, they never cared about pragmatism or realism. Why do you think they invaded most of Europe when they could have stopped after Czechoslovakia and have called it a day

None of those people ever went to the camps, and their memoirs would have been about how they either lead the country or how they won the war, not actual things about the holocaust.

Even then the existence of gas chambers isn't necessary for the holocaust to have happened

Are there memoirs of people who DID witness them

Like as in see the chambers at the liberation

Post faggot

Can't name any because I haven't read any WW2 memoirs, but Patton's might, since he famously liberated a camp.

Of course there are the many memoirs of the survivors, like the maus books, and those done by holocaust experts, though I feel you don't take the survivors word as seriously

Ffs, stop posting Holocaust redpills. I want to see what arguments and pictures kikes are using to support that it happened.

I wonder if Zhukov's does.
I know most except like a handful of gas chambers were all in the eastern parts of Europe those which would be controlled by the Soviets.

I've heard that there were some gas chambers that were liberated by the western allies, but I can't find out that by googling since all the responses don't separate the USSR from the west

Oh you're right because all of the extermination camps were found by the Soviets in the territories that they claimed. We all know how trustworthy the Soviets were right?

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I would like to do so, but I first need to know what you mean by 'it didn't happen' as I know many deniers all have different views on how the holocaust turned out

google 'zionist role in the holocaust' but do it on yandex, zionists petitioned western governments to deny admission to jews fleeing germany because they were worthless if they weren't in Palestine, among other things. Zionists waged war on Germany and allowed unwanted, uneducated, working class jews to be sacrificed by Nazi's in order to found Israel, and they did it twice

You dumb faggot why do you think it's illegal to question?
Why would they pour a giant slab of concrete over a "mass grave" after vigilante sonar testing yielding 0 results?
Why do you think the single soul court case brought up to question the official narrative got thrown out because "its just a known fact" when they couldn't answer the questions and or deny information?
There is no fucking argument. Its a thin narrative pushed through groupthink and scare tactics.

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this was for this

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As I dude who likes Russian history I do have to say that that your graph is bullshit and that "Judeo-Bolshevism" is a complete fabrication.

But I do concede to what you say there, the Soviets aren't trustworthy. I can't prove that the gas chambers were really extermination things, but since every professional agrees on this I am inclined to believe that.

Personally I wonder why the gas chambers are so important to you. You can have the holocaust without the gas

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>"Judeo-Bolshevism" is a complete fabrication.
You're a fucking retard.

>are so important to you.
oh yeah, it's us they're important to, for sure my man totally but I disagree

It happened, but calling it a holocaust is silly.

Leon Degrelle was a fascist, I get quoting Patton, but he isn't helping you

Notice how no-one responded to the Posen speeches Himmler himself explicity says they wanted to exterminate the Jews

okay I get the first thing, but have you seriously bought Nazi propaganda that much that you actually think that the Jews were somehow secretly getting together to organize some shadow war against the Germans?

There was no state sponsored extermination plan of the jewish people. Jews died of starvation and typhus and jewish partisans were killed on the eastern front.

Posen speeches are a fabrication kike.

The gas chambers really aren't important to me, but those professionals who you espouse go blue in the face trying to defend their validity against any logistic criticism.

>you seriously bought Nazi propaganda that much that you actually think that the Jews were somehow secretly getting together to organize some shadow war against the Germans?
Where do people like you come from? This board is trash now because of 80iq retards such as yourself.

I reccommend you to watch Shoah and educate yourself. It's a great film and Claude interviews actual Nazis who ran the camps and they explain how the regimne ran things . He also interviews bystanders and victims themselevs. 10 hours long and goes through everything .. Im fed up of seeing deniers in general, its so clear you people are uneducated about the subject and so contiue to talk rubbish about something you dont understand at all

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Concentration camps are part and parcel of that type of war. US did it with the Japs. Losing the war and cutting off logistics kind of forces their hand to put down detainees.

I want to reply more but I'm getting false reads on CAPTCHA

When you look at the old Bolsheviks, only two people of note were Jewish, Trotsky, and some dude who ran an important newspaper, the 'sources' that propel this fabrication of Judaeo Bolshevism are either made by anti-semites, so are discounted for bias, or literally count every last janitor and soldier as long as they were Jewish while ignoring very important old bolsheviks who weren't.

The Russian revolution was done by minorities all around Russia, you had Abkhazians, Georgian, Urlalians, Azerbaijanis, Tatars, and yes, some jews, who all participated

Hope that these are useful to someone

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>watch jewish propaganda
Get tossed faggot.

Google image search “Holocaust” the 30k +results should be overwhelming evidence to anyone who isn’t a sheep.

>NOOO YOU CAN'T DENY THE HOLOCAUST JUST WATCH THIS 10 HOUR VIDEO FOR PROOF
take your meds, schizo

it's really bad when people do that, it only gets more people to deny the whole thing

>Patton's might, since he famously liberated a camp.
No American General every liberated a death camp. Since all of them were magically on the Russian side. He did liberate a "work camp" and compared the jews to rats. He hated the jews in the camps and claimed we faought the wrong enemy at the end of the war.
Then he magically tied in a random car accident just days before leaving Europe.

>some shadow war
okay I get that you get the first thing, but have you seriously bought into zionist propaganda that much that you actually think well documented periods in history didn't happen? First they waged a war in the form of a communist revolution and then they waged economic and social war against Hitler the moment he was elected. Hitler and German's were defending themselves against zionist aggression, and lost

You're the dumb faggot, filling the thread with Holohoax images. Read the fucking OP. This thread is for kikes to come expose themselves.
Kill yourself, pilpul faggot

>made by anti-semites, so are discounted for bias
Kek. You're not going to make it user.

>he's a fascists which makes the point invalid

That's illogical, emotional, and flat out stupid. The point was that their racist beliefs were focused on keeping themselves alive not to exterminate. You're already arguing with others on whether or not germany wanted them out or dead. Whether or not you want to clearly discuss Bolsheviks doesn't matter. The weimar suffered heavily under jewish influence and to deny the modern west is comparable to the weimar with it's plight against jews look back up to Jewish monopolies on positions of power and influence. The last time transgenderism was practiced was then and there, pioneered even.

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What about the decrees and order we have of Jews being denied employment and being sent to smaller and smaller ghettos. We know for a fact they were seen as undesirables and that the nazis wanted them gone. So why the hell are you giving them the benefit of the doubt that thee millions of people who died in camps they were forced on and the nazis hated just died of natural logistics and were totally not exterminated at all.

Why do you insist on this hill?

math is wrong in the first paragraph. The overrep. is 3,600 % rounded.

A redpill, by its nature, cannot teach you a lie.

It happened but in another country. And it wasn't Nazis, it was a group of Jews running the Bolsheviks. And it was Christians they were trying to wipe out.

Look up Holodmor. Not just that either, look up the number of deaths in Russia by communism and know the majority of people running the bureaucracy of USSR were fucking Jews.

they were kept in Germany by fucking zionists you brain dead lemming, zionists lobbied every major western gov't in the world and closed the doors to jews, zionists did that you fucking hmong

>Germans didn't want jews living in germany
>this means they must have attempted to murder every last one of them
What an argument user! Were you on the debate team in college?

10 hours of proof indeed. If you dont want to watch it or seek the arguments of the other side then thats willful ignorannce and therefore stupidity

youtube.com/watch?v=-NpF3jGmKOM

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Those were good policies though. Germany should belong to Germans. If not, then it should have been called Judea or something more kosher.

Dude the Bavarian socialist revolution was a literally nothing that amounted to jack shit in the end. Also how can an ethno religious group co-ordinate a subversive war? Many Jews just thought themselves as Germans anyway. if for what you're saying is to be true then all or most jews would need to have some secret fucking society. It doesn't make sense at all.

Even if there was proof of some Jews being anti-German, you would have to be a collectiveist nazi yourself to believe that should mean that all jews were doing a thing.

What about the British people who kept up the blockade of Germany even after they surrendered, making many starve. Are all British people anti German because of them?

Ok, watch "Greatest Story Never Told"

I'm not saying that because he's a fascist his points are invalid, but if you want to prove to anyone who isn't a natbol, that the holocaust was fake, then you should try to find a source that id respected by the other side as opposed to a person with a vested interest in covering for the Germans

>"Jewish Bolshevism is a trope"
No, it isn't only a kike or an idiot would say such a thing. There are many quotes by "Jewish" figureheads and newspapers gloating about it being a "Jewish" movement, many books that say so, and even Vladimir Putin said it in 2003.

We are NOT going to turn this Holohoax thread into pilpul about Bolsheviks. They were "Jewish", that is settled for all intents and purposes. If you continue to say otherwise, you'll Auchwitz-Star yourself, so whatever.

2013*

Jews lived in Germany for over a literal thousand years. Many thought themselves German first, Jewish second.

You're dumb

of course a stupid brit would say that. worry about your kids getting abducted instead of propaganda you cracker ass faggot

The reason that said failed defenses are usually the impetus for people to start questioning the validity of the Holocaust is because the gas chambers and the intentional extermination narratives are so central to the post WWII modernity we live in today (see ). If Jews hadn't painted over Nazi Germany with such reckless hyperbole such as what we hear from certain outrageous survivor or officer testimonies, then deniers probably wouldn't even be on the radar.

Also no one denies that there were concentration camps or that thousands died in them, people deny that there was an intentional plan to exterminate (not deport) the Jewish people.

number one what does pilpul mean, and number 2 turn off your meme flag faggot

They most definitely thought themselves Jewish exclusively. That's why they have such a strong in-group dynamic, to this day.

>"watch this Jewish produced 10 hour documentary on the Shoah"
The fact that you watched it and can't even articulate a small summary of arguments proves you're an idiot kike.

You're a horrible person and should see a doctor about your life problems

fpbp
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your pilpul is broken,
> literally nothing that amounted to jack shit in the end.
>how can an ethno religious group co-ordinate a subversive war?
easily
>all or most jews would need to have some secret fucking society
yeah that'd be crazy, they would need to call a world congress to order or something and that's just whacky!
> you would have to be a collectiveist nazi yourself to believe that should mean that all jews were doing a thing.
I never said 'all jews', I clearly said zionists
> What about the British people...
whataboutism for thee but not for me? What about em? Nobody cares and it's irrelevant to my point that zionists waged war on germans and did it all to found israel

Kill yourself, kike.

One thing to note is that the official numbers claim 17 million dead in total, with the Jews making up 6 million of that.

How often do you hear about those 11 million others? Every story ever told about the Holocaust is about the six million Jews, the 11 million others are barely treated as an afterthought, if mentioned at all.

Why are the lives of six million Jews treated as vastly more important than the eleven million others who died?

If you dont want to watch it or seek the arguments of the other side then thats willful ignorance and therefore stupidity