Why don't young men value commitment? Why are they clueless about what they want in a relationship?

Most women denigrate, belittle, and devalue men and their contributions. They don't allow a space for the man in the relationship, so we beat off to traps and LARP like we're in STALKER.

Why don't young men have jobs?

They only want to sleep around sadly, I hope it gets better when we’re older. :/

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So you don’t think 99% adult women don’t deserve a relationship....

Women are a huge drain on time, money and energy. Aside from sex they don’t really offer anything. Why would I want one?

because they been sold the lie that relationships are about being loved by a woman

But young men are significantly more likely than young women to want commitment. Any woman in her 20s can easily find a committed boyfriend.
The problem is women like pic-related will wait until she's 30 before she decides that she wants a relationship, and by then all those men she rejected are over her.
If you want commitment, all you need to do is stop rejecting all of the men who want a committed relationship with you. And do it before you turn 30 because after that it goes downhill fast.
this, I'm getting real tired of women rejecting men who want an actual relationship only so she can turn around and complain that she can't find a boyfriend.

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This. There's millions of us. Not enough non roasties.

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Because most men aren't men at all. Just boys chasing instant satisfaction as they did as children.
Also Most of the women I come across simply aren't investing anything into. They're all used up. Have baggage. Or simply aren't marriage material. The problem started because men allowed women to roam free. It's only gotten worse due to women themselves.

The invention of contraception and cures for various sexual diseases has allowed people to divorce their sexuality from the act of creating life. In the old days if you were promiscuous your genitals would rot off your body and there was nothing you could do about it. In the old days you might get pregnant the first time you have sex. These were things that had to be considered and sexuality was recognized as something serious because it was. Young men today no longer exist in an environment where all of their friends are becoming fathers and so young men extend childhood and adolescent attitudes well into their 30s and beyond.

Men as a short term sexual strategy want to bang as many women as physically possible. In the past, social pressure and standards held us back from this, making the only way we could get some in the form of marriage and commitment.

Now, because women give it away for the price of a shot of tequila and a corona, there’s no incentive for men to settle down.

Also, when they get to a point where they really want to settle down, because so many women have been used (by their own collective actions), many of them don’t seem like good choices for wives.

Also marriage laws are gay. Next question

People are confused about man-woman relationships. Nobody knows what to do. Some people get into this BDSM thing; that's how far they'll go to get some structure in their lives. Some women look for "daddy", rip him off, ditch him, and then they say "Wow lol I'm such a brat".

Feels bad man. Feels bad that I can't just be open about my needs and my feelings. Yeah, I can get shit done, I can be the hunter, I can "scare off predators", I can be assertive... And if all my efforts and risk-taking are thrown back at me, imagine how insulted I feel. Imagine how inadequate and worthless I feel when all my contributions are denigrated.

I want to be appreciated, I want to know I'm valued, I want to contribute to the relationship in a meaningful way. I need a job in the relationship. Give me a responsibility and let me fulfill it and, I dunno, DON'T WITHHOLD SEX TO MANIPULATE ME.

So rather than feel the pain of being under the yoke of vagina, I can beat off to hentai and have a waifu. Sound pathetic? It is. But I'm fine with it because there are many like me, and I'm fine to not accept responsibility for it. : )

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That’s nice to hear :)
Sadly most guys aren’t like that though.

you're mad because the tinder chad you share with two dozen other women wont choose you

You aren't worth it.

Haven't you heard, 20 is the new 30. You need to commit in your teens or at least by 25 (very latest) or you are going to end up a cat lady. Men are fast moving up the standards of who they will commit to, and if you are a tinder thot showing butt pics, you've already screwed yourself out of ever getting a commitment.

and sadly 'nice guys' like that dont get the pussy cause the majority are whores, or at least want to be treated as that. The average woman wants an insensitive egoistical 'alpha' male, so thats what most males eager and strive to become.

>Be 34 y/o virgin
>Abusive parents
>Grew up with some aspie symptoms
>Give up on trying to attract women
>Begin to get punishingly lonely
>Try to date women
>Socially retarded
>Repeat patterns of emotional neglect and abuse in the dating scene by thots who practically don't see me as human
>Ghosted time and time and time again
>Learn some assertiveness skills
>State my needs
>"Hahahaha you're weird, you're crazy, you're autistic"
>Feel worthless

I don’t think that’s true at all. I think it’s because a lot of those guys don’t tend to ask out women whereas the more asshole type guys tend to have more courage to ask out women more but idk.

Why don’t young women contribute? A woman who feeds me and doesn’t mind once in a while doing the laundry and taking care of herself without getting uppity can have my commitments done all my wood chopping car fixing skills.

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Yep. Young men value commitment a lot. They are choosing not to pair bond with women who have nothing to offer them.

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The three girls I would have considered committing to had ALL fucked at least two of my friends each.
How am I supposed to marry a girl and walk her down the aisle when my groomsman know what her butthole looks like? Women seem to think that it's not important and I'm not supposed to care, but I do.
You want to get married? Choose who you fuck wisely, because you're disqualifying yourself from the others in that group as a marriage candidate.

I hate marriage because:

A. You have to pay thousands of dollars for the Ring and wedding itself

B. There is no promise that the marriage will last and men don't want half their shit taken away in court.

Chad constantly "asks women out", i.e. propositions Tinder sluts for sex. Of course he does, all he's going after is a high N-count.

The "nice guys" don't go flirting with Tinder sluts because that's not how you get a healthy, long-lasting relationship. They look for quality women, and they'd ask them out if they could find any.

Blame lies on both sides. But most men recognize, even if just innately, that women who sleep around are a risk. They'll often tell you that they want to marry you one day, then cheat on you a month later. They become addicted to novelty and can't resist. On the male side, it's addiction to pornography and video games.

Where do “nice guys” look for relationships then?

Yes, whore

Nowhere anymore - women have made talking to them at work, on the street, in a supermarket, at school - either outright illegal or 'creepy'.
Women basically fucked up the entire basis of western civilization.

Their own social circles. You know, like normal human beings.

It used to be OKCupid too, but that seems to have died now.

>same can be said for women, no girls i know want to settle down at my age they want to go to the clubs and get fucked every weekend by somebody new just like most guys its retarded
>my ex of seven years didnt even wanna settle down "your only young once are her words"
>after seven years what kind of retard even says that fr wouldn't u of figured that out a long ass time ago....
>22 btw

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because ur boring as fuck

Because they were mostly raised by divorced single mothers or grew up watching their fathers be henpecked and have their spirits broken by their mothers

+Tall, buff, often complimented on voice and smarts.
+No vidya, no porn, no drugs.
+-Resting murder face, have always looked older than I am
>Rejected every time I try
>Only ever approached by sluts and cougars
I'm never gonna make it

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99% of men don’t deserve a relationship too then.
Work has always been weird and small talking is only really a thing in the US and really uncommon in Europe and as long as you aren’t creepy people won’t brand you as a creep you know.
I know about the social circles thing but I don’t think those people are a lot different than other people that find a relationship outside of a social circle.

Men are the problem in-so-far as they are, on-mass, unwilling to solve the problem with women.

Mostly everything else is the fault of the woman.

>Why don't young men value commitment?

Because women don't, so there is no reason to try. If you already knew the outcome of something that is tragic that you are about to do, why would you proceed into your impending doom?

>Men and women are the same
no

>as long as you aren’t creepy people won’t brand you as a creep you know.
This sounds fine until you realise that creepy = ugly.

>I know about the social circles thing but I don’t think those people are a lot different than other people that find a relationship outside of a social circle.
See, if you actually are trying to form a successful relationship, the social circles thing works because it allows you to get a good sense of someone's character before proceeding. Plus with a pre-existing connection to someone there's a higher chance that 1) you will actually care about each other from the start, 2) no one's going to do dumb shit like ghosting.

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>Fuckboys
You're talking about niggers and spics. There are some white sluts out there as well but by and large white males shouldn't have sex until around 22 to 24.

Girls start uber whoring at 14. Wemon are useless for life that get multiple dicks by 16.

False you’re just like an incel man and not realistic with your options

based me except skip all the simp shit and abuse shit and replace it with liking videogames more than dumb roasts

Because most women aren't worthy of commitment

I committed to a girl, i truly loved her...

She aborted my child, cheated on me, left me when i went through severe depression, and banged half my town...

You have to be a complete moron to "commit" to a (((modern))) woman.

So you think that guys should share the same woman then lol?
>This sounds fine until you realise that creepy = ugly.
It doesn’t.
>See, if you actually are trying to form a successful relationship, the social circles thing works because it allows you to get a good sense of someone's character before proceeding. Plus with a pre-existing connection to someone there's a higher chance that 1) you will actually care about each other from the start, 2) no one's going to do dumb shit like ghosting.
Fair enough I guess.

>Have a dozens of partners by age 30
>Always say you are too young to get married
>Complain about men not wanting to commit once you are past your prime and not wanted for flings

Stop projecting

i actually met my female cousin for the first time in five years yesterday she was a total thot growing up ghetto dancing dating black guys doing drugs dropping out of college not a bad looking woman mind you but total trash in general well yesterday i met her husband of 3 years tall handsome extrovert rich ripped as fuck a chads chad so moral of the story men if you do everything right are genetically gifted rich and lift you too can marry my retarded thot of a cousin lmao

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EVERY FEMALE ON EARTH IS TAINTED BY
LILITH. ONCE SHE'S OUT OF THE PICTURE
THEN A RELATIONSHIP IS WORTH SOMETHING.
UNTIL THEN, BUY DILDOS, BITCHES.

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