Capitalism or Communism?

Which one, really? I'm in the middle atm and I want to join a side.

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SOZIALE MARKTWIRTSCHAFT !

Theyre a two headed dragon. Left vs right is a distraction to keep the people divided. Politics was never seen this way throughout history. Capitalism and communism are both terrible. Dont pick a side unless you want to be a retard.

Which side are you on, then?

The one that works better

If you’re in the middle you have a superficial understanding of either. There’s no in the middle.

>Politics was never seen this way throughout history.

How was it percieved?

The pic is wrong. The government doesn’t actually determine demand in communist countries, it can’t, which is why communism ultimately doesn’t and can’t work. If the government makes a million shoes, but people only want 10 000, you’re going to loss a shitload of money and have a massive deadweight loss.

Capitalism because it puts good people in charge faster. Look at jewtube for example and many other corporations in America who get away with things their customers abhor because the communist American government's contracts keep them alive. If America was capitalist, Youtube would have listened to customer complaints or gone bankrupt ages ago.

lose*

Capitalism it is, then.

fuck communism and dictatorship. people should decide what to do.

Both are Jewish inventions. National Socialist economics is the way to go

Im something like a monarchist. Obviously completely redistributing wealth and especially doing so vengefully is going to totally crash the economy and lead to famine, but you eventually get a dictator who can do things his way. On the other hand capitalism totally underminds social values when the rich totally dominate the political system and the democratic republic ends up being a mask for the real controllers of policy. Councils dont work. Democracy doesnt work. Social values slowly shift into degeneracy and only an unhidden unapologetic single leader can keep a nation on any responsible track. Politicians care only about their next election. If they were honest they would never get elected. Only a dictator/king is capable of honesty. This also avoids unneccessary wars and terror attacks against the people to give a phony reason for whatever policy a parliament style government wants to persue. Theres too much to write. But people to read are spengler, solzhenitsyn, hitler, evola, hobbes

You fucking western communists or Marxist need to be hanged, bunch of fairy tale faggots. Because of people like you I cannot openly state that I am Stalinist just to not be put in a single bag with all you degenerate transgenders.

Fucking KYS.

I’m a anti basedcialist

>Capitalism because it puts good people in charge faster.
That's simply not true. Capitalism puts people that bring maximum capital in charge faster, if it's at the expense of the users, then be it.
>If America was capitalist, Youtube would have listened to customer complaints or gone bankrupt ages ago.
It is capitalist. But there is a difference between user dissent and profit along with the monopoly. What you're describing is capitalism 101.

i use lenovo laptop and xiaomi phone, am i maoist commie?

Both are bad by them selfs.

You cant have pure communism where state does everything.

Also you cant have pure capitalism where greedy and evil runs everything.

So a mix is neccessery. Authorian gov, single party, but with underlying control capitalism to secure the people but allow the ambitious to prosper.

Based

Mixed economy i.e. national socialism is best.

Price, bank should be determined by government though.

Also, no democracy.

Freedom, aka capitalism.

So you're a Trumpist then?

Communism (MARXIST LENINISM/JUCHE/STALINISM/) Is Based. National Bolshevism is the best option if you want a functioning society

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GAZ-24 is instantly recognizable. Absolute unit.

the problem with the free market is that in many cases, the big companies would hold a monopoly and there's no chance that any smaller competitors could reach the same level, even if those big companies constantly get mocked or berated for shitty practices, people are still going to buy their products.

>You cant have pure communism where state does everything.
>pure communism
>state
user, I...

Bu- but thats not REAL capitalism!
Faggot

Cringe.

Both bring about modernisation theory and finally dependency theory one focused more on government the other a mythical concept of a free market
One does it with the gun in your face while the other does it with the television in your face
The basic principles and focus are that of collective vs individual catering
The false dialectic remains the same as cover for colonialism or empire in wich both are expansionist and require resources and military placement to do so
Either way both install modernisation theory wich kills or molds any target culture, religion and social norms for a successful expansion
This type of game hasn't ever ended from before Rome till now its the exact same game the only thing that changes is language and location

I’ll buy you a plane ticket so you can come here and get treated for coronavirus. You’ll have ultimate freedom and the best care money can buy.
Deal?

No, you're just poor

Lol the television in your face. As an american that made me shed a single tear. So true.

>One does it with the gun in your face while the other does it with the television in your face
The other does it with a gun, too. Being homeless is illegal.

Think for yourself humpty dumpty

Two sides of the same shekel.

Whites' side.

yes, you're a commie spy

This is why communism works for things that people need but not what they want. Transient demand for consumer goods is one thing, but if you're plan is to build a railroad across the country that everybody is going to use, it's quite easy to rationally plan the economics around it.

You what? Dont know how to make an argument? Are a fucking nigger teir retard who cant discern the propagandized intent versus the outcome of a political system? Should kys? All of the above?

No its not retard, you know how complex it is to make the simplest of things? How many moving parts it takes within the market? You cant just navigate all of the peoples needs. Way to choose a road as the example the one thing that often works through tax money. What about food retard?

>I am Stalinist
consider suicide

The argument is that pure communism is, by definition, stateless. You’d know this if you bothered to actually study the terms you’re throwing around.
In small words: you don’t know what the fuck

Well, I like to eat and enjoy owning my own home so ima go with Crapitalism by default.

Ya again that would be the propagandized intent. Aka anarchy. And how is that accomplished? Through a revolution. And how is that done? By a revolutionary leader who becomes the leader of the new state. A dictator. Yano like what happened in every single communist country ever?

Very strange how Russia went from a peasant backwater to a massive nuclear superpower in a mere 30 years and the first to launch a satellite into space. Oh yeah, and the whole thing with Germany.
Amazing how this was all done without building anything and feeding no one.

Expand the acronym “U.S.SR.” for me, faggot.

Who owns means of prodoction?

Capitalism: Goverment
Communism: People

A bunch of trumpfag magatard capitalists in this thread huh, where are the defenses of the socialist bernie bros?

oh my god you knew what he meant. does this make you feel smarter? idiot

>falling for the binary scam this hard

I can't believe people on Yas Forums of all places haven't seen through this trickery yet.
If you keep thinking one vs the other in all aspects of life, you'll always be a slave.

Umm yeah they sucked all the prosperity out of the country and pushed it all into retarded space programs while imprisoning and murdering millions of their own people.

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He didnt know what I meant he's just THAT stupid.

I kind of agree with this, but it only works when people aren't too high in numbers and there isn't too much anonymity through numbers in society.

also kings aren't elected but prove themselves through trials. the best one wins. has to make a promise before the people, if he betrays his promise he is killed.
Every two years the king trials start anew.

>t. i learned history by consuming western propaganda filtered through plebbit and youtube pundits

Communism is not about economics its about a prophecy that humanity advances in stages and the final stage is Communism where humanity breaks free of exploitation and becomes a utopia where all need and want is gone and there is nothing but abundance. Basically a new Garden of Eden. Its not something you can explain away by pointing out famine in North Korea or Maoist China and saying how much better free market is at allocating resources.

Communism is a religion basically.

npc lub commushit

That is interesting. I mean as a member of clown world anything close to this seems so much better than what we have that i dont differentiate or study as much as I should the details. I loved Mein Kampf's critique of parliamentary government and his argument for nationalist socialism. I believe the people must be higher class, limited (metropolies are evil), but mostly racially pure. I just wonder how many people really are capable of understanding these general ideas and dont just scream about their FREEEEEDOM they think they have.

>Capitalism
>People
>He believes in bourgeois democracy
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA Here is a fucking tip communism has never existed and probably would take centuries to do so. What you should be aiming for is socialism ie. the democratic ownership of the means of production by the workers.
Capitalism is filled with regulations. People need those regulations to insure businesses pay their share.

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Ya a retarded ass religion

I have a question for people who understand economics.
I once read about abortion in the Soviet union. Lenin said that women should have the access to abortion, because they can get back to work faster, instead of taking care of a baby. Therefore not slow down the economy of the union.

But by that logic, wouldn't it be better to have women not working and just giving birth? If a working class family can raise 3 kids in the Soviet union, wouldn't it be better not to allow women to work, so they can give birth to 6 babies? Now there are more people and more working hands. Wouldn't it become better economically?

If you believe in any kind of democracy youre a retard. If you laugh at someone for not liking the "right" kind of democracy, youre a faggot as well

yeah, most people would reject that notion because
>muh consumer goods
>muh porn
>muh convenience store
all the while not realising this makes them weaker and more dependent over time, essentially domesticating them to the point they can't be wild and free anymore.
But no matter how much they ignore it, the only thing that has power in this world is natural law and you can't escape it.

Blood should stick together, the strong, intelligent and empathic should thrive

Yes, but you are too redpilled to be taken seriously by the current society. I have a similar idea but I'm too afraid of speaking about it.

There isnt consistency of morals or logic in communists. Especially lenin he was just an evil anti human jew sucking fucking faggot. Of course he liked abortion. You think he actually cared about workers? Fuck no. He literally capitalized on his own communist revolution

Communism and natural logic are like oil and water.

Communism's entire premise is antinaturalistic and therefore wrong. When the premise is wrong, no result of it can ultimately be right

Didn't find any mention of Adam Smith and English common law. Sad. OP only knows of Hobbs.

I couldnt agree more. I cant stand political "thinkers" who argue against the natural order of our species/world

Lenovo makes the best laptops, aka Thinkpads you fucking retard, and also they are not cheap.

>But by that logic, wouldn't it be better to have women not working and just giving birth? If a working class family can raise 3 kids in the Soviet union.

In times of Lenin there were no fucking food and country was constantly at war. It was race against time to compete with industrial militant western civilization aiming to conquer and genocide slavs.

Hobbes wasnt a free market capitalist btw. He was super anti anarchy and pro order.

Unregulated capitalism leads to monopolies and corporatocracy. Regulated communism leads to death camps.

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>thinks social darwinism concepts are naturalistic
>cries when his precious white civilization fails in social darwinism appealing to metaphysical concepts of morality and superiority