A 47 years old, father of two, just died, he was a paramedic
Ayden Long
Remember, the chinks did this to you. There is a huge population of chinks in northern Italywho work in manufacturing. Every death must be avenged.
Josiah Russell
i'd push that button, why not
Gavin Lewis
I am in the region most in the north before the border with Austria.
Bentley Allen
Fucking this. Why can't anyone answer this? In all the interviews etc the doctors dance around this question. They might say "yes it affects younger people too" but they always leave it at that. Give us numbers ffs
Julian Taylor
As far as I know not too many, but there are some people in their 20s and 30s that require intensive care
Carson Perry
where are all the pastaniggers?
we need intel, there's almost no news coming out of italy now, even less than wuhan when it went on lockdown.
Show me names of dead people in Italy so we can verify they are real.
There's that meme video going around of a guy in Bergamo showing newspaper obituaries (newspaper lmao!). We need someone in Bergamo to buy a newspaper and take photos of those names and faces so we can see what is really going on.
The information getting out about this is highly suspicious so far.
Julian Evans
Their language sounds like they are just randomly saying different types of pasta.
Levi Diaz
What's his name and in what city did he live?
Landon Perez
You lads ready to get wave 2 when all you pastas go outside again?
Christian Clark
Take care friend, I hope your mom makes it through this crisis.
Daniel Moore
Feels nice to live in a place with a government too incompetent and police and military too drastically under staffed and funded to be able to enforce such a curfew kek
Josiah Taylor
Andate a casa, andate a casa... e sempre girando vanno. Poi si sorprendono perché ci sono cosi tanti infettati. Qua é lo stesso. Sempre in giro vá la gente come se niente fosse. Non si stanno stare fermi nemmeno per salvarsi la pelle questi ritardati.
Here in CZ we've just been quarantined (more or less) too. Schools, restaurants, pubs, most shops, hairdressers etc, borders ALL CLOSED. The thing is, here nobody's died yet. We have nearly 200 cases. Based Babiš is trying to Make Czechs Breed Again!
Daniel Wood
Show me the names of sick/dead people.
Brandon Hernandez
My region just doubled the number of infected in less than 24 hours.
All medical personnel has been called to the hospital, including medicine students and fresh graduates.
People mostly respect the quarantine, there is general panic among the people. Last time I and my family went out of our house was last week when the quarantine was announced.
We are living on the supplies I stocked up thanks to Yas Forums and we are avoiding going out. Most supermarkets are empty but I guess it's due to panic buyers.
Today Italy increased of 3.500 infected people, it's not slowing down, it's exponentially growing, now also the south of the country is getting infected, probably thanks to the people who escaped Milan the day before the quarantine was activated.
In my mother's office 5 people tested positive, she is in self isolation now but doesn't have any symptoms. She stopped going to work when I told her to call in sick around 10 days ago before shit hit the fan, she hasn't stopped thanking me ever since.
>how bad is it Luigi? bad. Everyone you see is normal, as soon as you talk to a nurse or a medic they tell you it's a catastrophe.
>how scared are people? too little. "We need less panic, but more fear" is what I heard on a radio show and they're right. Some people don't give a shit and try acting tough, they pretend like it's nothing. Nobody talking about looting or weapons, and I'm really glad I'm not surrounded by US citizens atm frankly.
>food shortages? The government said supply lines of food and essential goods (from the truck drivers to store clerks) are considered now essential public services, as if they were medics or police, and they will never be asked to stop, instead being encouraged to always continue. People can enter supermarkets only in small groups of 2-3 at a time (the rest are made to wait outside), and this ensures the shelves stay relatively full.
>does it seem to be under control or slowing down? The good news is we seem to have a plan: we wait two weeks and see the effects of the total quarantine. We have been told it's going to get worse until then, because the effect of what we do will only be visible in 14 days. So everyone is waiting for these fucking numbers to go down at some point then (but before that, they are expected to exponentially rise still). So we're doing something and people have something to look forward to: the two weeks period.
At that moment at least a map of the more/less struck areas should be visible.
Austin Foster
fuccin reddit spacing ITT
Xavier Brooks
Mate, first of all stress is going to just depress your immune system, so work at being relaxed and help your mother to be more relaxed and not feel desperate. Don't just hang out on the Internet alone while she is sitting alone with her terrible thoughts, talk and do video calls with family together.
Secondly, if you can get it, get vitamin D supplements, basically all Europeans are during winter months deficient and this vitamin is proven to decrease infection risk from 19 to 70%, depending on how deficient you are at the moment. youtube.com/watch?v=W5yVGmfivAk
Thirdly try and eat good foods, not processed shit. Fresh vegetables, onions, full eggs, milk, cheese, meat.
And chances that something will happen to you or your mom are almost zero. The actual infection rates are more like 10x to 20x times what your gov has registered, because mostly people who feel more ill will contact the gov. So out of 7% fatality rate becomes in reality 0.7%. And then consider the fact that Lombardi has reported 0 new detected infections. This means there is already likely widespread herd immunity, otherwise that would be impossible. Imagine how many people got infected and didn't die for this to happen.
Charles Lee
They are there. They aren't many, but on the news I saw a medic clearly stating that they had one 28 years old man with no previous comorbidities in intensive care. The famous "patient one" was plugged to a respirator for one month before waking up: he was 38 and an athlete (a runner)
Adrian Taylor
regarding vitamin d - it decreases risk of all respiratory infections with viruses and bacteria by this rate and lessens the symptoms if someone is infected. I will order some for all of my family tomorrow.
Bentley Perry
are they burning the corpses,or dumping into pits,for a Caterpillar burial?
Isaac Martin
Pic related is from an Italian telegram group. Spanish user posted similar numbers. Today a Dutch newspaper posted that in my county >40-50 patients in ICU >more than half of them are younger than 50 >2 have been on ventilation for 3 weeks now >youngest patient in ICU is a 16 yo >first ICU patient in Lombardy requiring ventilation was a 38yo healthy male who used to do marathons and had to be ventilated for 18 days
No previous _detected_ illnesses. Chinese have released stats on age distribution and there is no reason to fake these.
Brayden Wood
If median incubation time is 1 week, it means that the quarantine effects only show after 1 week.
Caleb Harris
Thanks user for the advice, I'll try my best to follow it, but I would also avoid going outside until the quarantine is over.
Asher Kelly
If I'm reading it right, it says the spread of severe cases is pretty much equal across all age groups excluding the very young. Although, the age group 15-49 is pretty large. Would like to see the stats for 20-35 group. It seems pretty bad nonetheless.
Parker Bailey
shit mate i'm glad Yas Forums at least is helpiing somehow people that listened and prep
stay strong pasta bro, be rigid like pasta and stay delicious when immersed in hot waters
Hunter James
>In my mother's office 5 people tested positive Give me the name of someone who died from this in your town. Go to the newspaper and pull up the obituaries.
Noah Jones
Is there any """"refugee"""" housing in your area? Now would be a good time to """"help""" them out
>Diego Bianco OK - help me find proof he existed prior to this month.
Jace Green
>Today Italy increased of 3.500 infected people, it's not slowing down, it's exponentially growing, now also the south of the country is getting infected, probably thanks to the people who escaped Milan the day before the quarantine was activated.
I've been glued to Twitter since the announced the quarantine of initial towns like Codogno until it progressed to the total lockdown, and I could not fucking BELIEVE how many people were just fleeing like rats from places like the Milano Centrale, taking the disease everywhere else. They announced the regione were to be quarantined...and then they dragged their heels enforcing it!!
Ethan Hall
My entire family except for siblings and parents is in Poland. I might never see some of them again. This virus really sucks.
Christopher Collins
Oh, I knew what you were doing. Keep ignoring it, you are all going to die anyway.
Luis Walker
>The European Union rejected Why would a sovereign nation need permission from a trade union?
James Mitchell
You fucking retard that says less than 8% are under 50
I've seen an interview with an Italian doctor working in the area. He said that they put a lot of mild cases of corona infection into intensive care during the course of the first week because it was a) novel and b) they have found that people who look like mild cases can very suddenly develop into severe cases. Especially because of this they stuffed intensive care with patients that shouldn't be there, while others who were sent home because of lacking hospital beds suddenly died. They didn't know how to properly assign resources, they had to study this as the spread happened.
Sebastian Sullivan
Na just 1 38 years old
Joseph Morales
here's my survival kit - some weapons and ammo - 2 ffp3 sealed semi-mask - 2 sealed eye protection - 5g cocaine - 10g weeds - 1l amuchina - 80l petrol - 5kg pasta - 3kg tomatoes salsa - canned food - bread - water
Yes. You could also infer that the 20-ish age group is more at risk (cytokine storm?) then the risk drops, then goes up with oldest people. But 30% vs 50% risk of dying is not much practical difference from an individual's perspective.
Jose Jones
other than social media posts, what evidence do we have? you all realize that seeding social media this way is incredibly easy?
we need names and locations of people who are claimed to be victims, especially dead. then we need to verify these are real people with identities verifiable prior to the incident.
a few will be real, but if there are a dozen names and ten look suspicious we know what's up.
David Gutierrez
Yes, by all means, follow what the government asks you to do. I didn't mean to tell people to disregard this illness and just act reckless. All the best to you and your family.
Levi Clark
>Lombardy isn't the same as The Netherlands Good observation stupid nigger
Zachary Edwards
shitaly btfo
Adrian Phillips
I'm not ignoring it, I'm looking for proof that the dead are real. If there are dozens and dozens of dead people then this should be no trouble. For some reason, however, it is proving harder than it should be.
Don't trust what you hear, fool.
Dylan Bailey
Sounds like Mexican style spanish in a more dramatic accent to me
Jordan Roberts
Isn't it surprising how stupid can people be?
Also there is an internal investigation going on in the government as it looks like the left is the one responsible for leaking the quarantine plan for Milan.
I strongly believe they put the whole country under quarantine thanks to the idiots who fled to the South.
Yeah, young guys die like boomers, but it's okay not to say it. Only because of the closure of schools there was a panic in the supermarkets, imagine what could happen if they told the truth about the death of young people. it's right, for now it must be kept secret to avoid panic. I'm here in italy, I hear my friends are dying.
Italy tried to activate help measures from the European Union. The EU is a governing body that needs to approve such kind of requests. Nobody answered to our request for help.
Isaiah Parker
This and worse is coming to the US, and everyone is acting like it's business as usual.
Michael Reed
I keep hearing of "death of young people" but I don't see any names and social media profiles proving they exist and are real.
I'm not a hoaxer but this is starting to be concerning - italy is not China and there should be a LOT more information about the victims than we are seeing. Not even my Italian friend from those regions has got info.
Benjamin Parker
>The EU is a governing body that needs to approve such kind of requests. >Nobody answered to our request for help. oy vey stop being anti-Semitic
>”we” do your own research you stupid, lazy nigger
Joseph Howard
Go back to /ptg/ you retarded boomer. This isn't an elaborate democrat+european plot to ruin Trump's presidency.
Oliver Gutierrez
>everyone is acting like it's business as usual. Fuck no they are not. The entire city of NYC is basically closed.
Ayden Parker
In Poland, lockdown was introduced at
Jose Gomez
>the boomerpocolypse is coming Based bring it on, imagine how many niggers are going to kill eachother
Asher Clark
The thing with the virus is that a mild condition can unexpectedly develop into a life threatening condition without any warning signs. This is why the Chinese put people into these giant halls with thousands of beds. So only a few nurses could go around and regularly check the blood oxygen levels of thousands of mild case patients. If the oxygen suddenly dropped on a patient, ONLY THEN he got moved to intensive care. Before Chinese figured this out they would've wanted to put everyone into intensive care but couldn't, so they put often the most valuable individuals there (younger patients) That's when the fatality rate suddenly dropped sharply in China. In Austria I've seen they started to work on turning exhibition halls into lazarets like the Chinese did.
Robert Sanders
start saying your prayers italian bro
Jace Hill
>how scared are people? Not as I would have expected. They're facing their fate with courage but some are carefree because they're too stupid and haven't realized it's happening yet.
Ayden Myers
I'm doing it, faggot. But the names are mighty hard to come by. Go check yourself you NPC retard.
Elijah Cook
Vittorio arzilli, died in San Marino a few days ago, my uncle.
Adam Sanders
>my uncle. Thank you, friend. Since you are close, perhaps you can save me time by linking to something about him from any time prior to 2020?
its a fake virus, schizos told me on this very board
Logan Gonzalez
>Vittorio arzilli wait, He was 92 years old?
Asher Wright
We have US bases in Aviano and Vicenza with some 50k burgers living in and around there. Apparently they were raiding the local Italian stores and being such obnoxious muttpigs that the commander ordered that they now require permits to leave or enter the base.
William Thompson
This is the elites succesfully destroying Wesrern culture, one family at a time.
Ethan Myers
>it's not slowing down, it's exponentially growing overall, yes, but in the part where it first originated it's beginning to decreaae as long as people stay in quarantine and limit the spread of the virus, rates will drop stay safe and don't panic, good luck pastabro
Robert Martin
the virus is real, as are the quarantines. but are the effects as reported real? ask yourself how you know for sure.
Gabriel Adams
are you actually not believing that people are dying on italy?
I should've been more specific. Outside of one or two major cities, it's mostly apathy and a sense of "we'll be fine, just a bad flu." My family decided now was a great time to go out to eat at a fucking Chinese buffet with my 80 year old grandparents for fucks sake. We live in the second largest city in my state, which has dozens of cases reported. When I asked them what they're thinking, do they just not care etc. they said "well the parking lots are full! No one else seems worried, and it's business as usual out there. We have to live our lives!" This attitude will get many killed here.
Chase Morgan
Fuck the EU it is full of traitors who have turned their backs on the people they claim to protect, if they even faced them at all. They take their fucking money in taxes and say it's for their big brained support programs well where the fuck are you, mother fuckers?
So absolutely bought out that the idea of a quarantine for even a few weeks earlier in the year was unthinkable because omg that could be racist and muh GDP. Well now you're right fucked aren't you. I hope Italians resist this disease out of pure fucking spite.
Why do you believe it? 80+ year olds die all of the time. We are being told that young, healthy people are dying in large numbers. So it should not be hard to prove it.
Trust, but verify, n00b.
Chase Cox
>Remember, the chinks did this to you. NO. The western elites did this, when they refused to close the borders, since they planned on infecting everybody and just flatten the curve,
The west can't have open borders and immigration from shithole countries unless the west develop herd immunity, so it was fuck white people from the start.
>is young people dying too? OFC, we had a 4yo in the news 2 days ago
David Morales
Aye mate, I’m from the U.S. just today in North Carolina all schools were ordered to shut down for 2 weeks AT LEAST. We have no idea what’s to come, if it’ll worsen, or if it’ll improve. My family is worried, and so am I. Any suggestions on preparations or precautions? Any help is appreciated. Wish you and your family safety and comfort.
Blake Brooks
>We are being told that young, healthy people are dying in large numbers
Who said that?
Jaxson Perry
Really? How many will die from this version of chink flu
Jonathan James
Quite possibly. I'd like to know for certain but no one seems interested in proving how dangerous the virus is.
Aiden Thomas
Yeah, lemme check. google.com/amp/s/www.ilrestodelcarlino.it/rimini/cronaca/coronavirus-morto-vittorio-arzilli-1.5062645/amp This is his obituary, he lived in domanagno with his wife Alba, and my uncle Roberto used to take care of him. He was the oldest of the arzilli family, they have a diamond store called arzilli jewelers, he was a doctor and his brother tarcheesio (dope name) lived in houses next to each other. Apparently every article about him dying from corona virus has killed any search results about him from the past.
Jayden Price
based and underrated
Nathaniel Brooks
Yeah, old as fuck.
Lucas Foster
Compra maschere m3 quelle riutilizzabili. I filtri poi costano meno.
Easton Cox
Ehhh...the panic buying at Costcos and such is real and is happening throughout the entirety of Long Island, but I've seen lots of Tweets from Bluechecks saying that because all the sports games and such are cancelled and it's the St. Patrick's Day weekend, all the bars in NYC and Washington DC are packed to overflowing.
NYers gonna stay true to form, even as the city turns into the irl The Division.
Jonathan Gray
>My family decided now was a great time to go out to eat at a fucking Chinese buffet with my 80 year old grandparents
I can give you two exact names of victims from the news (not people I know):
1) Roberto Stella, president of the Order of Medics (think of the Bar association but for medics) in Varese
2) Nelio Pavesi, city councilman of Piacenza, representative of the political party "Lega"
Mason Brown
Name? Sorry to be cynical, but could you post any proof of anybody you know dying, and or the pandemic being real? A lot of disinformation going around these days. You and your family are in my prayers, regardless.
Jackson Smith
Did people take this seriously before the lockdown, or was everyone in denial?
Lucas Scott
Have fun living under an authoritative regime. News flash pizzanigger these changes are here to stay.
Sebastian Davis
Yeah, the EU's betrayal of italy at the moment is a real eye opener. They give more about the foreign invaders at the doorsteps of greece then actual european citizens right now.
Oliver Edwards
Spoken like a cringy good goy
Grayson Carter
I thought this was /ptg/ until i saw an actual discussion going on
Lmao don't worry boomer, nobody cares what you believe. I'm sure when your lungs fill and you're on your deathbed you will still keep telling yourself it's a psychosomatic illusion caused by HAARP
Christopher Miller
Stores are now empty in the north.
Joseph Murphy
Now imagine living in a country that refuses to lock schools because >ages 0-20 barely get sick and very rarely spread it :DDDD >we can't send then home cause their parents need to work :DDD Just fuck our shit up famalam
Connor Nelson
Please don't doxx yourself over one paranoid user on Yas Forums inb4 glownigger shill
Brody Brown
Issue is if they wall off, what happens next winter season when the virus pops up again? Chinese can probably deal with such a thing perpetually and remain functional due to their stronger collectivism and cooperation internally, we can't keep up with them in this area. One thing though that makes the Western approach irresponsible is the fact that Western gov couldn't have known the long term effects of the virus when it hit them, unless they created it. What China did is the way a responsible person would act I have to say very clearly.
Jonathan Gray
doing my bit fratello, by increasing the regular online purchases of our beloved italian import foods, and urge others to do the same. it's about the only truly healthy food left in the world these days, and will also help their economy. stay well, and stay stronk.
