The Sixth-Generation fighter developers can be divided into two categories: the United States, which has developed and deployed two stealth fighter types, and countries that have skipped or given up on their attempt to build Fifth Generations jets. These latter countries have concluded that doing so is so time-consuming and expensive that it makes more sense to focus on tomorrow's technology than try to catch up with today's.
The latter include France, Germany and the United Kingdom, which are in the preliminary stages of developing sixth-generation FCAS and Tempest fighters; Russia, which has given up on developing its Su-57 stealth fighter for at least a decade, but is talking up a conceptual sixth-generation MiG-41 interceptor; and Japan, which is contemplating a domestic sixth-generation F-3 stealth jet, but may settle for a foreign-inspired fifth generation design.
>nur flügler >slap jet engines on it so that's the engineering power of a mutt ...impressive like a child gluing uncooked pasta on a cardboard
Gabriel Fisher
blame whoever forgot that the tornado has to be phased out, while also cheaping out on the eurofighter. meanwhile bong eurofighters are fully air to ground capable and can carry basically anything
When will this shit go away? A. this was a NATO exercise in Norway, B. you need a weapons license to transport guns to Norway, which C. was the reason they weren’t mounted on the OBSERVER infantry tanks, because they arrived to late. The sticks were put there as a joke.
Now stop bs and admit that the F-35 is a terrible mistake.
>Oh no, so in FIFTY years our aircraft might be a little outclassed.
try 10yrs... for 50yrs
Gabriel Brown
so what the F35 is only for foreign export anyway, the F22 is muricas air superiority fighter.
Camden Flores
>if we call it 6th gen, then it must be better than 5th gen supply chains and manufacturing wins wars prove me wrong
Gabriel Scott
>the current generation will be outclassed by the next generation whoa, very powerful article
Carter Moore
hahaha the US plans to do anything. we have no plans. well before 2070 we will have mechs that make most sub orbital Jets obsolete.
James Harris
what makes you think that America won't have the best 6th gen fighter based on its work with f-35s and the related RnD?
don't be retarded, we're always going to have air superiority, it's our job. The f-35 program was a natural extension of that and will benefit the military for decades.
Sebastian Diaz
> Deutscher btfos American bantz with researched facts and logic It was ever thus.
Benjamin Butler
>don't be retarded, we're always going to have air superiority, it's our job. The f-35 program was a natural extension of that and will benefit the military for decades.
lmao
JSF/F-35 was conceptualized when the USAF/Navy didn't have a single peer competitor. It gets its ass killed by 4th-generation fighters and can't hit ground targets as well as Strike Eagle. It was a jobs program, nothing more
Hudson Powell
retard
Nathaniel Lee
lel you sure told me
Elijah Barnes
I used to fly an f-35 back in vietnam. shot the japs right outta the sky with my sidewinder rockets
Lucas Parker
I went through pilot training with 4 germans and they were the stupidest people I've ever met that actually managed to get a jet off the ground, so that counts for something at least.
Chase King
yes
Jaxon Thompson
yeah now we shoot down racemixed mutts with their air gender tanks using our NiS x1488 NigSlayer layzzer anti gay gun
Cameron Flores
>20:1 at red flag >F-35 sucks pick one
Chase Brooks
Shame we damn near flew the wings off the whole fleet by using them for CAS against sandniggers with AKs. Now they're thinking about cutting the whole fleet.
>I went through pilot training with 4 germans and they were the stupidest people I've ever met that actually managed to get a jet off the ground, so that counts for something at least. Kek.
William Hughes
The F-4 was outclassed forty years ago. Japan retired it's last squadron of them last year. Old aircraft find plenty of work well after their prime dogfighting days are over.
Tyler Davis
kek
Aiden Perez
Sukhoi can't even build a new jet. They just dumped their program.
Caleb Jenkins
>it's good in simulations in which the rules are constructed so it literally cannot lose
I just ran a simulation too and 56 F-35s got shot down by a single Sopwith Camel. The Camel pilot got the last 6 with a single bullet each from his sidearm
In real life, adversaries have ECM, and DSP across multiple wavelengths makes stealth obsolete. This is not good when you've got a slow, unmaneuverable plane that relies on X-band stealth and missiles
William James
kek, okay retard
Zachary Roberts
t. the country responsible for inventing gay nightclubs
Noah Allen
Lmfao dude anyone who doesnt know better doesnt give a fuck what a leaf has to say, and anyone who does knows you dont know what the fuck youre talking about, so who are you trying to fool exactly?
Juan Russell
Red flag isn't a simulation. It's real exercise that does well to determine capabilities of our various platforms.
t. USAF pilot
Austin Ortiz
Why are German posters always so butthurt about America's planes? Some kind of WWII trauma?
Lincoln Mitchell
Meanwhile your army is issued combat brooms.
Josiah Campbell
Yes. Their messyshits got trounced by american fighters and they can't handle it. There's a reason we train their pilots.
Jeremiah Thomas
>frustration >anger
There's a reason why literally everyone else has said "lol" to 5th generation fighters and are working on the 6th. X-Band stealth has been defeated by digital signal processing of multiple wavelength radar arrays, which means all the aerodynamic limitations and compromises involved in designing a "stealth" airframe were for absolutely nothing.
Everyone who knows what they're talking about has been shitting on the F-35 since literally the day it "won" the competition
>Red flag isn't a simulation
lmao right, real gentlemanly of adversaries to bring their cutting-edge countermeasures to fly against Lockheed's latest turkey. Maybe the 6th generation fighter will be good, because unlike the 1990s-2000s, it will actually have to be.
Aiden Jenkins
>Everyone who knows what they're talking about has been shitting on the F-35 since literally the day it "won" the competition What's your background? Do you work in military aviation?
Josiah Long
How long til one of these 6th generation fighters "crashes" in China and they begin their 6th generation fighters program?
Christian Johnson
>relies on missiles
what are you trying to say here exactly
Hunter Harris
>fighter jets are somehow relevant since the advent of missiles Human beings can't even tolerate 10 Gs. Fuck the Chair Farce! They have had no mission since the ICBM!
Hudson Ross
The Pak-fa is still a proto, and stealth my nuts, it isn't stealth as it is made believe, fucking Rusky lies.
Isaiah Bailey
Did a Jew write that? Title says only four ready, bottom sentence says ten ready, don't forget that all of Germany's aircraft are ready.
Jeremiah Parker
If I was procuring for the military, I’d just skip 6 (and 7th) gen and wait for the new shit after that.
Jayden Taylor
Lol you realize that for air shows and when landing and departing they transmit to ground crews
William Thomas
What exactly do you think fires missiles? >Human beings can't even tolerate 10 Gs. Humans can tolerate more Gs than the aircraft
Cooper Hall
The corona bat is the the new weapon of choice. The winged weapon that matters.
Jose Young
China can't even make an engine that doesn't spew smoke like an old school diesel going up a hill
Logan Lopez
Without ending my career, I work in a related defense industry. X-Band stealth has been an unofficial joke for a decade now, and stuff that happened over Syria more recently was the final punchline.
Everyone's known since the 90s that "stealth" planes all show up clear as day on old long-wavelength radars, but their resolution is shit. Nobody was able to produce a weapons-quality radar lock until DSP advanced enough that some filthy Russkie figured out that it's just a matter of processing 30cm and X-band wavelengths together to synthesize a high-resolution return. Now everyone can do it.
That's why everyone is now talking "6th generation" -- everyone talking 6th generation is a nice way of saying 5th generation is stone cold dead.
F-35's whole air-to-air strategy is to be unnoticed long enough to fire missiles at the target. FLIR detection of missile tails, modern ECM/IR jamming and multiple wavelength radar means it's just a big fat slow aircraft that everyone can see and whose weapons can be easily countered. Hilariously, we're going to go back to gun dogfights for periods as the missile/ECM arms race continues. Until lasers are ready I guess
Aiden Powell
>needs a weapon loicense Lmao
Robert Campbell
I'm not going to turn this into a whole thing, but dude you are dead wrong on a lot of this. I'm not getting into specifics for obvious reasons but I'm an Air Force pilot - I'm very familiar with the 35 and its capabilities.
Parker Murphy
This. The Chinese are a joke. They haven't even achieved 1970s jet engine technology domestically, with 21st century metallurgy and supercomputers available to them.
The 1970s engines they still can't figure out how to make with supercomputer clusters were invented by Russians working with pen and paper and slide rules. Just an embarrassingly incompetent people
Colton White
> Outclassed by a concept
Jose Nelson
lmao
Ryan Green
>What exactly do you think fires missiles? manpads, toyota trucks, mobile SAM launchpads, drones, etc. >Humans can tolerate more Gs than the aircraft LOOOOOOOOL! Just GTFO holy shit. Humans can't tolerate the Gs of the fucking F-16 Falcon designed in the mid fucking 70s
