Can women realistically defend themselves against men wirh self-defense ?

>average woman against average man has very small chances.

Average woman against soiboy will win. Trained woman against average american man would win. Right now men aint doing to good. I am seeing a 50/50 ratio at the gym and women generally seem more focused. Lotta dudes out there with bitcc tits and poor balance.

Impossible without a firearm.

If a man has safety goggles and wears a cup, he is invincible

No. Women lack the killer edge that men do in fights, this will become apparently obvious if you spar with one. If you take away the gloves and rules, a guy will train wreck a woman, and you can see that they know this in their eyes. Maybe .01% like Rhonda Rousey would have a chance, or if the guy was some sad weakling, but otherwise, no

If the dude is busy fucking and not paying attention she might choke him out

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Can a man realistically defend himself against a gorilla?

They need to teach classes for women to become absolutely berzerk. They dont have the power to overcome a male but stabbing eyes with objects or thumbs, crushing or biting off genitals would do wonders. They want equality in the workplace
but there really needs to be a national campaign to make women equally violent

>Average woman against soiboy will win.
Wrong. The average man is stronger than 99% of women. Have you ever met a woman in your life?

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If they attack unexpectedly and hit soft targets they can create space to escape. But in a out and out fight unarmed... bitch gonna get wrekt.

A well trained woman can still hurt a man if she lands a proper hit in the right place. Of course women are smaller weaker and dumber than men, but if they are trained then their chances to escape from a muslim rapist is high. Many men think they are supermen until they are hit in the balls, its an experience I don't wish upon anyone.

What happens when a smaller, weaker, woman tries to eyepoke a larger, stronger, man? WHAT WILL HAPPEN YOU FUCKING MONG?

One of my karate teachers was a girl. 3rd degree black belt. She carries a gun because she very bluntly noted “If even a teenage boy wanted me, I’d just get raped with two black eyes and a busted jaw. Anyone who tells you’ll be leaping & flipping around like a movie heroine doesn’t care about your safety.”

If she gets lucky and gets a really good hit in it might help, but otherwise she'll get wrecked even worse.

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>Average untrained woman vs average untrained man
Man wins almost every time
>Average woman with fight training vs. average man with fight training
Man wins almost every time
>Average woman with fight training vs. average man with no training
Woman has a chance, but man still has better chance of winning
>Elite athlete woman with fight training vs. physically retarded man w/ no training
Woman has best chance of winning. Odds of this matchup happening are very small.

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>Can a man realistically defend himself against a gorilla?

easily. my uncle jacko beat a bear to death with his bare hands

>life long aikido
Silly. All she has to do is stick her thumbs in the eyes and smash the balls. Aikido is such a stretch, fr. Yellow belt in judo and/or BJJ would be much more practical and attainable. I agree with what you are saying but the life long aikido is a bit much...
For any woman to be able to disable an average unarmed male assailant, she should train in athletic functional training somewhat regularly and drill practical mixed martial arts techniques. No fancy moves, just self sefense oriented techniques that work best in those situations.
Aikido, BJJ, Muay Thai will never teach you to rip someones eyes out. Kung Fu San Soo and Krav Maga do, though. I believe a woman can disable a determined unskilled male attacker with the right tools

I think 99% of the soicuck delusion comes from wrestling with a chick when they were 8-10 years old.

It will cause pain and disorientation

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it's called a gun, we invented them for a reason

No

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“Your swing like a girl” is an insult for a reason

If this woman didn't have a gun, she would have been raped.

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IIRC, this is Brazil and she was a trained police officer. She still almost fucks it up (fumbles drawing the gun) and stays close to the guy after he's down. Women really just lack any combat instinct.

Based

Women vastly underestimate the amount of men trained in some sort of violence and/or aggression.

Wrestlers, football players, rugby players, or even hobbyists of any contact or combat sport will have 1000x more aggression than your typical female along with superior strength

Typical for a jew to never have been in a situation were hes been hit in the balls and still had to operate. Also its way harder to get a clean hit on the testicles than people realize.

Yes, but that won't disable the assailent. So now you have an absolutely pissed off, physically stronger, opponent in front of you.

I have placed my penis in over 30 of them. I have also trained with some in different martial arts classes. Yes they are all weaker but some of them are stronger than you would think. But unfortunately my statements are based on men these days who are pretty pathetic. With the right moves and conditioning a well trained woman can fuck up an average dude, espcially todays average dude.

a kick in the groin or bullet to the head

Indeed.

Have you ever tried to hit somebody who is bigger, stronger, and (most likely) faster than you in a specific area? Let along a fucking eye, which is tiny and surrounded by a thick male brow?

The gun is the great equalizer and one reason why everyone should have one, whether your country allows it or not. Don’t be a slave to laws you had no hand in creating, protect yourself.

No, gorillas will fuck a man up even in captivity. Pic very related

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No she can't. Are you joking? 99% figure is not an exageration.

Men are too violent and brutal

>hang out with old babysitter (I was 10, she was 16) again when I’m in HS
>she used to manhandle me when we play fought
>she starts to goad me for old times sake
>less than 5 seconds I’ve got her mounted and pinned her arms
>that look on her face expressing a mix of surprise, a little fear, and arousal before she started giggling

We still fuck on-and-off these days

Women have good lower body strength, but shit upper body strength. So their kicks can still be quite powerful, and they can get around in a fight if they know how to use their body weight.

Exactly why I said "tries".

Yea with a weapon

The thing about soi-bois is that pound for pound they will usually still be stronger than a woman, in upper body strength at a minimum. Its easier for a woman to get stronger legs.

A soi-boi with 240 test still has 3x the test of a woman with 80.

There are just some conditions that arent fair. But hey, If she gouges the eye hard enough... hell be fucked

Meryl stay down goddamn it bitch

My girlfriend is vastly stronger than me because she likes boxing and practices it every week day.

Bullshit. A woman needs to be stacked up against a pic related to have an even chance.

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You need to hit the gym and man up then. She is probably already fucking behind your back.

Men still have a stronger lower body, on average, but the discrepancy between genders is smaller compared to upper body strenght.

There are trained women can put up a good fight. Cris cyborg or Amanda Nunes would beat the living shit out of most guys here. That said, the vast majority of them wouldn't do very well against guys with a moderate amount of training.

The average woman is physically far weaker than the average man her size. Against a guy who outweighs her by 50 pounds, it's no contest.

had a black belt in ninjutsu demonstrate some pain moves on me for a uni class once
painful yes, but nothing I couldn't work through, and most of the good ones were just to get out of grapples
all it really taught me is that if I were going to commit a rape, go for a slap or punch first and they'll be in too much pain to do anything
I assume they had some more damaging shit in reserve like eyejabs and the like, but the same advice would apply there, you're striking first and once their shit's rocked and they're on the backfoot it's all over 99% of the time

how is this Yas Forums related?

>Can women realistically defend themselves against men wirh self-defense ?

Just like the Pick-up Artist classes, these classes do the most important thing that people need: confidence. Most people are fucking scared of uncertainty and panic whenever something like this happens because society doesn't adequately prepare them.

It also depends what you mean by "defend" or if that is indeed what they are advertising. Are they saying that you, as a woman, can withstand and attack from a man? The answer is no, probably not. A sustained attack will wear down a woman, unless she has been studying the martial arts for most of her life.

I think these classes are more about giving the woman enough physical and mental ability to throw the man off in order to make an escape. If you kick a man in the balls, he may be hurt for a short period for you to run to safety.

In short, these classes probably give women confidence and some physical techniques so as to escape and I guess you can call that "defense".

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The discrepancy for trained woman versus untrained man is different though.

I have seen trained women squat 2 plate easy and barely bench 95 lbs, while untrained, skinny and weak men can bench 95lbs or greater while not squatting 2 plate.

You say that, but women can literally die from the impact of a single punch to the head from a man.
Don't ever believe the mass media avout women defending themselves, thats your job.

Extraordinarily strong woman vs sub-par man, still no chance.

But you don’t need to 1v1 pvp him you daffy broad, you need to make noise, struggle, and make it just too much trouble. You are trying to FLEE not win a fight.

Women should all be able to have firearms. Women are less likely to use them to shoot innocent people or to commit crimes, and we are weak and need self defense against male violence

>can women compete with the raw force of men in a case of rape?
No, not in the vast majority of cases.
Marine combat fitness test: 86% of women fail 3% of men fail. 55% of female recruits unable to perform 3 pullups. Men 26 lbs. more muscle mass. Grip strength: 90 percent of the women scored lower than 95 percent of the men.

That looks extremely painful

Refuting egalitarian myths about how females are just a suited for battle and hard labor as men

Yes, that is what I was saying. So if women train to fight, the successful ones focus on lower body. Ppl who don't train have no idea how to use kicks, checks, knees, sweeps, etc.

>Can women realistically defend themselves against men wirh self-defense ?
no they can't. if facing a healthy man, even if a woman works out and learn martial arts, she's basically fucked.

the only way a woman can win over a man is if she either faces some degenerate sick man.

against a healthy man, there is no physical defense for a woman. only a gun or shocker

I highly doubt that

hey babe yoh looks great

gets eyes gouged out by some femwhore

sure hold my bear

Yes

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fuck. that explains the slutty pics in her phone and how she seemed not to be upset after I spent a year study abroad.

It would be extremely painful

well, a finger in your eyes or ripping off nuts is possible, so yes

This is correct. I've seen extremely athletic women squat more than me (4 plates), but none who have benched more than me.

Data > anecdotes.

Men jump higher, run faster, and so on. This is how it is in every sport and high school class.

>Not even having a hand on your gun as some random car starts slowing down on a deserted street at night.
Shiggy

And if I was cowboy then I would be the belle of the ball.

Theres different levels to everything, a well-trained woman is not a champion professional fighter.

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Rousey got utterly humiliated in seconds, one hit, the first time she faced serious opposition and never recovered her pride. And it was just another woman. A woman who even O-mouthed soibois would simply pick up and hurl into a wall if sufficiently motivated.

This would probably cause me to go berserk and I might unironically kill her by accident.
Anyone who goes for my eyes gets at least a secondary residence in a hospital sponsored by me.

Normally I would stop beating someone once they hit the ground but that filter will be removed if that happens. My eyesight is very good and all my hobbies and work related stuff depend on it.
No fucking mercy. Gender equality.

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I've lifted for 8+ years and I have never seen a chick squat 2plate outside a smith machine. Women aren't remotely as strong in the lower body as men. Do you think testosterone only magically applies to muscles in the upper body? Jesus fucking christ you zoomers are bluepilled.

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Wrist locks in Aikido are legit. BJJ usually doesn’t allow them until black belt level.

Even soimen are bigger and stronger than most women. Size and strength are huge advantages in a fight. This is why weight classes exist.

This.

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Says the Venezuelan twink. Come on Marco, post pics of smooth and brown, boi tummy.

Basedmen will get exhausted in like 20 seconds though. A trained woman can roll with the punches for 20 seconds and then subdue the faggot after he starts breathing hard.

>Trained woman against average american man would win
no. she will never win even if she trained all day every day. she's just be a woman with a little but of muscles but absolutely no force behind those muscles.

funny story.. when i used to take karate, we had girl in the dojo and some of them were learning karate for several years. even a novice white belt could have kicked anyone of these girl's ass.

it just doesn't work for women. they are physically degenerate. they can't grow muscles, and even if they grow muscles by using steroids, there is no force in their arm because the tendents and bones are weak by default

the only part in a female body that is relatively strong is hips. but they are clumsy. and still not as strong as man's hips

any man can pwnz any woman hands down

Did you have sex?

World class female athletes cannot match untrained, half-devoted teenage boys.

I've seen a varsity athlete woman do 4 plates squat. She was quite short and extremely built though, and it was only 1 rep, but it was still impressive.

fpbp.

To clarify, I went to a D1 university and every chick ive seen squat more than 2 plate was black.

>99% figure is not an exageration.
And? The whole point in doing martial arts is to be able to take ppl put who are stronger than you because you utilize technique over strength. When I was training more, I could out class some guys who are 100lbs over me! Some bitches are just hard man and some dudes are just weak. Combine the 2 and the woman wins.

Who the fuck changed "onions men" in my comment to basedmen? Fucking faggot jannies?

The females’ chances to win are even less now than then.

that's because you've only seen gym roasties, i had a roided up 6'4 amazon that talked with the most hoarse voice like she smoked a whole decades worth of cigarettes. She was cat calling all the manlets to put on more plates and squat harder.

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An average man can knock a woman out in one hit. Doesn’t even have to be a clean hit. Yes there are some scenarios when a woman could pull it out, but a man is going to beat a woman the vast majority of times. Implying otherwise is dangerous because you’re giving women false confidence.

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>most important thing that people need: confidence
Confidence can get women killed. They don't need no man and did a 20 min self defence class so will walk home in the dark instead of calling cab/friends. Confidence is not what you want your wife/daughter to have on the street, it's AWARENESS.

Their lower body strength is good...for women. Still weak compared to a weak man’s lower body strength.

>Wrist locks in aikido are legit

I bet you have never tried to wristlock a resisting opponent, let along attempt a wristlock takedown on one.

Also wristlocks are allowed at blue belt adult and above in IBJFF which is the most restrictive ruleset

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>roided up

Not really. IIRC, most of these "women's self-defense" places just teach dirty fighting tricks that seem like they'd work. Eye-gouging, for instance. What they neglect to mention is that it's not like the movies where kicking a guy in the nuts makes him go down and leave you alone. A properly agitated man can fight through getting maced, he can certainly fight through anything a woman can do with her bare hands. Moreover, after you have maced him or battered his testicles or attempted to gouge his eye out, he's likely to be quite a bit angrier with you than he was previously. The fruit of that may be more physical harm to the woman attempting to defend herself. These classes also tend to teach complex motor skills that a panicked woman in the first fight of her life will not be able to use before it's too late. The ugly truth is that in many cases, if you're a woman and being physically assaulted by a larger more powerful man, your best bet is probably to just roll over and accept it. Fighting back has a low probability of any profit and a high probability of further loss. Most of the self-defense training is security theater.

All that said, women can realistically defend themselves against larger, stronger men. They just have to carry a gun, be comfortable with using it and keep it accessible. But better than that is just making sure you're never in a bad situation to start with.

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Most of these self-defence classes are given by Kung Fu and aikido guy's who really believe their skills work irl accept they haven't been in a real fight in their entire life
They teach the girls some fancy grips that are completely useless
Bullshido doesn't work in real fights

>i had a roided up 6'4 amazon that talked with the most hoarse voice like she smoked a whole decades worth of cigarettes.
what city bruv this is my fetish

Gorillas can pull trees out of the ground. They would rip the strongest human apart like a human rips apart a napkin.

It would be kinda fun going to a proper strength training gym, but then I wouldn't be king shit of the globogym

only against me because im a soiboi and weigh 130lbs

Im not saying it will win every fight, but if you are not paying attention and I catch you with one you are going to tap.

>I am seeing a 50/50 ratio at the gym and women generally seem more focused
You realize the gym is not a random sample of the population, right? Especially not in America.

There is a good interview podcast between bas rutten and joe rogan about what will happen if someone tries this dumb ninjitsu shit...