Having English as my third language, I find the quality of speech, grammar and vocabulary of native English speakers to be abysmal.
Words such as "like", "shit", "fuck", "thing" are used extensively to fill in the gaps of an obvious poor vocabulary.
Why is that? I ask because speaking to ESL people, I tend to find much better English than from natives.
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3 languages? So impressive. So, Gay, Gay and English?
Fluently, Portuguese, Spanish and English. But I get around in 3 more (French, Italian and Latin)
You probably rule the world, huh? Leading with, "Having English as my third language,,," is pretty pretentious. Did they teach you that?
laziness and a casual attitude promoted by our degenerate culture.
spanish and portuguese is practically the same language you fucking moron.
anyway my native language is korean and I am learning hebrew and everyday improving my english.
get @ me
I'm a bit of a sperg, so I come of as rude and arrogant not necessarily on purpose.
>I speak 3 languages
>monkey, beaner, and Human
lmao at your life hue nigger
Visit one of our public schools to find out. It's just daycare to keep jamal and pablo off the street for as long as possible. Even then it doesn't work very well.
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when you keep dumping common core to the point where people can barely communicate with each other in their local tongue without using emojis you get this
its not just math, or the spoken word but also grammar
and they don't even notice it because unlike a foreigner they don't learn the language
to cap it all the department of "education" in germany introduced a project called "Schreiben nach Gehör" (which can be loosely translate to "Write as you hear")
fpbp
You come across as some kind of cosmopolitan faggot.
Simple... at least in the U.S. There are over 100 English Dialects littered with colloquialisms. To assume a language is a single immutable thing is silly.
Пи пи пy пy
>Why is that?
People intentionally speak in code so the average outsider doesn’t understand.
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Pee pee poo poo
>tfw
Because they don't care. Nobody will call them ESL if they don't speak english properly.
Same thing with brazilians speaking portuguese. The difference is that you won't see gringos speaking it better than natives, because unlike english, our language is very hard.
Well why don’t you just ski in Alabama in June ya dork
Percent sure what you are doing for the day long and you cannot was a very very respectable life love and hugs kisses hugs hugs kisses and prayers hugs hugs kisses hugs and kisses kisses love you kisses hugs hugs and kisses kisses love kisses hugs kisses and hugs hugs and kisses hugs kisses and hugs hugs and hugs and prayers kisses and prayers and kisses kisses love you love kisses hugs hugs and hugs kisses kisses
Gayzil
You're going to have a stroke when you meet your first niggers then.
>Brazil
>not sopa de macaco
Isn't it interesting how, when someone respects what they learn, this is reflected in the way they communicate? In a similar sense, it is easy to differentiate between good academics, who take time to produce clean, elegant works, and poor ones who produce tenure fodder. Unfortunately, enough tenure fodder does indeed earn one tenure.
I think its because English was defined as a language way before all other languages, so all of the official grammar is out of date. If you go through an english dictionary, you'll find many words labeled as obsolete. We update our dictionaries, but not our grammar, so thus, the official english language winds up being much different than the commonly spoken English. This happened to Latin and Arabic too, but its weird watching it happen.
Lmu
That must be funny to people in your inner circle that understand that reference. It’s almost like it’s coded so outsiders wouldn’t understand...
>englush speekers
>hyuman
Pyick one
Please, go to a hospital. You shouldn't post in Yas Forums while having a stroke.
>We update our dictionaries, but not our grammar, so thus, the official english language winds up being much different than the commonly spoken English
Post an example
It’s almost pee pee poo poo
Great Britain has the education system for absolute idiots. I regularly heard stories from polish families who emmigrated to the UK how kids who did poorly in Poorland were one of the best in english schools. The only good schools in the UK are for the rich elite + universities. The rest of people in the UK are treated as burdensome scum.
PI PI POO POO
English is the anti-grammar language.
BRAzil
Like bras that women wear on their boobies
Well you are forgiven, most of us here, my self included, are guilty of this.
As someone who has learned 3 different languages, you should be aware that major languages like English have different registers for upper and lower class speech. It is the same reason why X 2nd language learners have a difficult time actually producing and communicating in their target language because the language that they are taught is the language that well educated natives speak and write in. Imagine traveling to Jordan and complaining to the locals that their vocabulary and grammar are poor/abysmal because they don't speaking modern standard arabic. Or even to Germany and ragging on Ignatius for speaking Bayerisch over standard hoch deutsch.
It's not a fair comparison, and your command of a specialized variety of their language does not make them any less native. It only shows where the gaps are in your knowledge and who you can actually communicate with.
Pee pee poo poo is the anti-grammar language
Also English is a fusional language like all white Aryan Indo-Europeans and not agglutinative like your click clack native language
Faggot
>it's pretentious to know 3 languages
this is your mind on 'murrica
We don’t have to compensate for being non native plebeians. We’ve been speaking English since we were learning how to walk. It comes naturally to us and we don’t even have to give it a single thought. You will never be our level. We can sense it and you will never be fully accepted by us. Dirty foreigner
>speak click clack agglutinative language
>insult superior fusional languages
Lol to the lol
I always find people who learn to speak English fluently as a second language become the biggest snobs to others when it comes to correct English.
It's also the same for weebs in Japan but the get much snobbier at a much lower level.
I don't even know why. You're just opening yourself up for a harder fall when you eventually do fuck up.
>no mention of possessive it's and who's
kill everyone who does this
Fillers are present in every language you stupid fuck
Japanese is semi-fusional
English is fusional
Non-white is agglutinative
White is fusional
Care to explain what “proper” English is? We have dozens of dialects and accents
Pretty much. Every language does have levels of speech, and most people usually don't put much effort in their day to day communication. Brazilian portuguese in it's most refined form is a beauty, but if you arrive on somebody on the street and start speaking like that, either you won't be properly understood, or the person will get offended because he will assume you're mocking him by calling him a simpleton.
OP is a sperg. He is complaining about something that happens in here as well, too much people replace nouns with "coisa" e "negócio", and both interjections and adjectives and with just the word "foda", which can mean literally anything, be it for good or bad, depending on the context.
>blacks
>white
Also you forgot a comma you massive faggot
You don't think the media has a part in it all?
From 1965 onward most kids have been raised by television and the media seems to get worse by the decade. Try watching some news segment from even the early 2000's and compare the vocabulary they have and the way the shows were structured. Try reading a 90's NYT article and compare it with a contemporary one.
>you won't see gringos speaking it better than natives
Any retard learning Portuguese in duolingo will speak the language better than any brazilian monkey.
those"filler" words in American English are used to convey emotion in the sentence.
The sky is blue
Shit the sky is blue (denoting surprise)
The sky is really fucking blue (denoting severity)
The sky is like blue (denoting surprise again but more polite)
Just look at how artificial business speak is and the way you have to word your emails. Its outdated, people just sound different in their emails. Its rare for some one to say something is incorrect in speech, they'll use wrong instead. And much business speech works internationally. A businessman in England will likely use the same businessy words his American counterpart would. That is the proper written english as opposed to spoken english.
>I am learning hebrew
why? i know chinese people who are learning hebrew too, but the chances they are going to live or work in israel is almost 0%. what is your motivation, and you can't say it is a beautiful language because it isn't. the chink i know either do it as a weird way to ingratiate themselves to jews, or because they think they will be called upon for hebrew-chink translations.
People will ignore the fusional/agglutinative split but it divides white and non-white
>obvious poor vocabulary
>not using adverb form of "obvious"
Favela nigger detected
Having Portuguese as my third language, I find the quality of speech, grammar and vocabulary of native Portuguese speakers to be abysmal.
Words such as 'Ooga', 'Booga', 'Gimmidat', 'Shieeeet' are used extensively at all times.
English is a shit language. We were supposed to be speaking german instead.
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>because English was defined as a language way before all other languages
What in the fuck is that supposed to mean?
>the official english language winds up being much different than the commonly spoken English
English is very mild in this respect. There are other languages with larger diglossia problems in comparison. Arabic is like this, even German has larger dialectical variations than english.
Ah I now understand. After reading many communications between lawyers I noticed that those who practice the profession are very formal in their communications.
Though I am not college educated, the formality is something I have noticed and subconsciously applied in business writing as well.
Is business writing formally taught in colleges?
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>English is a shit lnaguage
You have no idea how bad things can get.
main difference in that picture is between formal and informal. contextually grammar use can change, but i think that is what you are saying too. i don't think people accept this context grammar though and they just have some correct vs wrong table in their minds.
How well to poor, under-educated people in Brazil speak Portuguese?
>But I get around in 3 more (French, Italian and Latin)
I don't think you are as skilled and as fluent as you think you are. I admit very good, but not an expert, the way you frame the above green text demonstrates this.
>Shit the sky is blue (denoting surprise)
My goodness! The sky is blue.
>The sky is really fucking blue (denoting severity)
The sky is extremely blue
The sky is astonishingly blue
The sky is impressively blue
The sky is amazingly blue
>The sky is like blue (denoting surprise again but more polite)
The sky seems blue.
The sky appears to be blue.
Yeah, it could be worse.
You'd sound legitimately autistic if you spoke like that in casual conversation.
What does that have to do with anything? English has numerous dialects and regional variants