Can you be moral without being religious?

morality is a group evolutionary trait.

groups without morality could not cooperate and we were wiped out by groups that could cooperate

groups with too much morality tried to cooperate with groups that eventually wiped them out

the appropriate level of "morality" is constantly in flux based on group competition

how about killing yourself faggot?

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>moral
morality is entirely subjective

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Yes, but to expect all of society to be moral without religion guiding them is autistic

Yes.

who are you throwing shade at, Jesus? Lmfao.

I havent clicked on a post so fast in my life. Woof

yes, but you'd be a hypocrite because you can't get around the fact that without God, there is no objective moral standard

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Ok then, explain why killing is bad without using religion.

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Religion is bullshit, you should keep your morals for yourself, not for the shit god

no

Buddhism provides a strong moral philosophy without the need for a deity. Jesus apparently studied the Life of Bodhisattva, and borrowed some of his teachings.

Yeah, but only because you're the product of a moral eugenics program created and sustained by religion. Without religion it will decay over the generations.

I'm a Christian and if God came down and told everyone that the whole Heaven thing was off, and you were just gone when you died, I wouldn't act any different. It really doesn't bother me. Probably a minority though.

Apes, together, strong.

Well if we're going to go by basic western ideas and morals than it's all seeded in Christian ideals. You can be moral without being religious, but don't forget where our idea of morality comes from originally.

Buddhism is too apathetic

>objective moral standard
chaos reigns

>24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”

Perhaps, but in times of adversity and internal strife (floods) an ever shifting morality (sand) with no "divine command" (rock) to hold firm to, people will make wrong choices.

God told you not to be gay. LGBTs will blow God's head. Moral standard changes with time, it's not objective

Would you like to be killed? If no then that proves you know killing to be bad. If yes you are in a minority.

>inb4source

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Nope. I tried to be- did charity and shit. I ended up dating and loving a single mother divorcee dominatrix with a 7 year old. Jesus would have saved me from going down the slippery slope of moral relativity and letting another man sick my dick/doing porn.

Religion and moral absolutism is the only way. Fuck jesus tho, guess I’m degenerate now.

Undeniably yes, in fact you can be even more moral without religion. The problem is that most people are retarded, and cannot do this. t. Current society.
I choose my outcomes not because I fear fantasy punishment according to some illiterate goat herding retard, I choose them because I determine what's right or wrong.
Morality is purely subjective. Christian values are utterly cucked, the polar opposite of Roman values because that's what (unironically) the Jews planned.

>what do you mean by morality
>what do you mean by religion

You're looking for something. What do you think you're looking for?

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I don't disagree. But it does answer the OP's question.

I wouldn't either honestly. The main reason I'm still a Catholic is not only faith, but also the tradition and history is literally the best. Way too interesting to deny and not be apart of. Plus denying your heritage is just gay.

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Yes of course you can. I got morals from my parents and life experiences, I'm not relgious. The one's saying "no" are narrow minded fools with simple minds.

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remember how moral the catholic church was in the inquisition. pfft

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Not technically, no. However, the biggest hurdle you must overcome is understanding Nietzsche. He is the greatest modern thinker we have when it comes to refuting morality, along with Hitler coming along and giving a higher purpose to white people beyond traditional Christian morality, and that higher purpose is based on love of one's own race.

For example, the Nazis did not disapprove of homosexuality toward the end of the war because it was immoral, but because it is civilization-destroying.

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To an extent, but almost everyone would agree that killing, lying, and cheating are almost always wrong.

I do want to actively avoid Hell though, that would suck.

It's theoretically possible, but only a tiny minority can manage it, and even then only if they have the good fortune to avoid falling down the black hole of moral relativism. Once they do that, it's over.

Yes.

Evidence:
Religious people ignore passages of their religious text that conflicts with their own moral compass.

There are muktiple religions each with different or contradictory moral standpoints.

Conclusion:
Morality must come from an internal, personal belief, not a doctrine, prescribed by an external.

If your religion teaches you that the main prerequisite for being a "good" person is to believe dogma, then your religion is a poor basis for any sort of moral system.

Believing in the correct sky-giant is not the same as being a good man.

People who conflate the two are seldom if ever good men, and never wise.

>3000-5000 dead over 56 years.
>OMG rememba the six gorillion!

for me. they went hand in hand. maybe other people can be. I'm still trying to figure all this shit out. but yeah.. god is here watching. letting you fuck up and fail. letting you die. but he's also ready to talk and help if you're not bulshitting around.

Yes. Why? Because morality is logical and is based on social cohesion and quid pro quo in times of need. Without morality society crumbles and if society crumbles you're going with it. Humans are social animals that need to work together in order to survive. Therefor morality, which is the basis for working with fellow human beings, is a necessity that exists regardless of religion.

>undermine the social and moral fabric of your society
>kvetch when you get toasted

your logic fails faggot
so, if someone wants to be killed, is it moral to kill them? suck a donkey dick faggot

"Morality" does not exist in Nature's realm. The only things that matter in the Natural World are strength and adaptability.

No, because without belief in a higher power, there is no source of objective morality.

I also donate to charity when I can, I will never take a life unless it is threatening to me, this includes humans down to an ant. I try to help people when I can, and I've done volunteer work. Can you say the same?

No. Because true morals are set in stone, and without religion morals are just relatively subjective according to the person's wants and needs and thus, not moral at all because it's not considering anything objective, only subjective needs and wants. There's evidence of this in basically every single thing any atheist has ever posted here.

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You're a brainlet. You don't need objective morality. You only need to preserve civilization and be loyal to one's own race. Without traditional Christian morality, you are faced with some truths about society: homosexuality destroys, pedophilia destroys, bestiality destroys, and even meat-eating destroys.

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if no one wants to die and this is the basis of morality, is it moral to kill during war?

You can do "good" things, but it would be just vanity, or fearing worldly consequences. You can only be truly good by repenting and having faith in Jesus Christ

yes, if that's all you're in it for.

poof! you're moral.

now go figure out what this morality does in the light of day.

can it redeem you, for example?

Most everyone you know in the society you live in

false. there are animals that will take care of orphaned animals and help other animals.

Then the morals set in stone by the books are manuscripts or whatever your religion has is just the subjective morality of the writers/creators of those books and such.

>I live in a vacuum

Go ahead and try the real world without morals

she's a whore; so, you can have her. do us a favor and kill her when you're done, then kill yourself too

if no one wants to die and if this is the basis of morality, is it moral to kill during war?

If morals exist in any objective sense.

But what could possibly found a transcendent standard of right/wrongness..?

fag

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LMFAO FAIL

if you need a book to tell you that it s wrong to murder your parents, you are a sociopath.
almost everything the big religions teach you should know instinctively

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Obviously, if you would be immoral without religion then you are in fact an immoral person, you are just scared of the consequences of having a god always watching your actions.

I'm agnostic, and im still not going to fuck other people over even I knew there was no repercussions because im not a shit person.

>is it moral to kill during war?
It is neither moral or immoral. War is the natural state of humanity. We fight against opposing nations or peoples and have done so since the beginning of time.

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All of your moral beliefs have been inherited from Christians, people who were themselves influenced by Christians or some level of recursion of that, or from white society in general, which has its basis in Christianity. If it's not Christianity it's at least some kind of god. It's honestly far better to drink the Water from the source than to get it second hand. Take that from an ex-atheist.

There's not a single shred of evidence to suggest these "morals" weren't written by men. Man made not God made.

Nope

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Why?

It’s the only way. You’re not moral, you’re scared of punishment.

Hello. I'm Japan.

after breeding her ill move to da next snowbunny u dumbass witeboi

china not religious, not moral

Nope. That's just your bias perspective upon that subject because of your subjective bias regarding where it came from to begin with. You atheists always do this shit with this "beg the question" logical fallacy. You can't make a claim by just superimposing your opinion before the claim to use as your foundation for said claim.
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It is undeniable that civilization destroying are immoral

The problem with "instinctive knowledge" is that not everyone has the same degree of it, and it makes you unpredictable and unstable.

This is probably why the deep state is pushing the paganism meme.