Change my mind

yay

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why should you, or anyone else, be entitled to someone else's money? there's literally nothing inherently wrong with being a billionaire

>I'd say Elon Musk

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They wouldn't if we lived in a Capitalist society. We wouldn't have monopolies either.

>Elon Musk may do good things with his money

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Do you like the taste of boot?

>Making hundreds
You're starting out and getting there
>Making thousands
You've established yourself and your reputation
>Making millions
You've offered a service many people are willing to pay for
>Making billions
>You tossed around your money to chase out all competition from the market. You are anti consumer and dont deserve what you've stolen

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>They wouldn't if we lived in a Capitalist society

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So tell me, why shouldn't there be billionaires? Because they're selfish? So what? It's their money. Why should you get any of it?

>change my mind
I will just slit your throat, comie.

If billionaires couldn't exist, then you wouldn't have Elon Musk.

>I hereby state that you should not exist. End of discussion

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>opposing wealth instead of poverty
A very telling value switch.

I asked you if you like the taste of boot?

If your workers make so much profit you horde billions you are under paying your workers you are a leach

why the cutoff unless you think wealth ownership by private individuals is a bad thing

is it because wealth ownership by jews is bad

what if wealth ownership was held by whites instead

/thred

>Because they're selfish?

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>t. (((business owner)))

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>change my mind
Easier to just shoot you.

Good.

Reopen concentration camps and gulags NOW!

>t. incompetent loser
doesn't invalidate his argument.

>workers make profit
>horde billions
That's not how it works. The profit comes after the procurement of materials and tools, the assembly, the journey to store shelves, the purchase, and anything else. Meanwhile, every rich person alive is rich because of either business ownership or stocks. Neither of those are ways of hording money, and both help people with less of it.

>all that text

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i agree. capping wealth at 10mil would solve a lot of problem.

Something we have in common. Only you need to realize WHO those (((millionaires/billionaires))) are and what they have in common.

Supply and demand. A lot of lower paying jobs are pretty basic. Why pay someone a lot of money to perform a basic task when there will always be someone ready to do it for less? There's nothing wrong with maximizing profits or personal gain

They're rich because of capital they didn't earn or create themselves and gambling with insider information? Yeah, sounds fair. Sounds like the mafia, but with more power and government approval.

Based and checked

Why kill them and not just plunder their wealth?
Are you afraid they'll do it again once your reign of power eventually collapses?

>change my mind
no, u r right

When you accumulate billions of pounds you have more money than can be spent on more than a hundred lifetimes. That is hoarding

The product your worker makes is clearly worth more if you are able to horde such excessive funds

And naturally, you'll be the one who decides what's good. What a load of bullshit. If you put half as must effort into earning as you do trying to steal what others earn, you wouldn't be a socialist.

I’m no commie, and millionaires can get there with real work, but billionaires are not there by real work.

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Has there ever been a company that offered an alternative to Amazon?
Like, on the same scale with similarly fast supply chain.
Maybe Alibaba, but using CCP support is kinda cheating

Also, the labor theory of economics is for brainlets who can't understand free exchanges.

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Much better user

Again, not how it works. Investment gives money to businesses, enabling them to hire more people. Just stop. You're only capable of oversimplifying because your worldview doesn't align with reality.

>too new to see a classic copypasta
please go back to r*ddit and don't come back

Nobody has billions of pounds just sitting in a bank account. You're confusing net worth with savings. Even if that were the case, banks invest the money they store anyway.

"Real" work or not, the money is still theirs, and nobody else should be entitled to it

>Only you need to realize WHO those (((millionaires/billionaires))) are and what they have in common.
Not all of them are jewish
When concentration camps and gulags will be reopened again, absolutely all of them will be stuffed in there, no matter of their ethnicity or nationality

I don't care how powerful people may become for the most part, giving them more power than I would ever desire for myself, but there is a level of greed that doesn't actually serve anyone as well, and we have allowed it by promoting psychopathic traits in our leaders. We can say no. We can decide not to buy products from abusive people. It's just as much the fault of the common man, who has allowed himself to be manipulated beyond any semblance of balance or reason.

>Investment gives money to businesses,
This can be done by state owned banks

You're right not only are they paying the working man well below what they should they own the property and charge rents well above a fair rate

Enjoy the taste of boot

Let's be honest, your red ideology was simply built around justifying murdering and stealing and the only thing that motivates scum like you is jealousy.

Capital allows people to make more money with zero effort, and they don't need to invest, nor actually benefit anything. Actually, going public allows psychopaths greater control of the entire economy.

>Nobody has billions of pounds just sitting in a bank account.
That’s what offshoring is about
Do you even know what you’re speaking of?

There is also nothing wrong with cutting off your head because i feel like it.
You act selfish, i'll do the same.

>There is a necessary balance.
The imbalance you insist we need to correct with billionaire bucks was CREATED by the fact that there are billionaires. Eliminate the problem and the rest will even out.

Why should someone literally lose the right to live because their net worth surpassed some arbitrary number?

>Let's be honest, CAPITALISM was simply built around justifying murdering and stealing and the only thing that motivates scum like other capitalists is jealousy.

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You can fix that if you go to a gold standard instead of crying about failed economic theories that kill innumerable people and cause immense suffering.

I'm not in favor of taxes. I'm in favor of merit and a reset if necessary. I'm in favor of people taking responsibility for themselves.

>using a memeflag
I may be a fucking leaf, but even I would never stoop that low

Stopped reading there and posted in rage, didn't you? Like a dumbass.

So you hope that nobody will notice that you changed the subject in order to get out of admitting that you were flatly wrong? Why is it that you expect people to be persuaded by your words even when you make such a liar out of yourself? Tell me what you're thinking right now.

I'm only here for Yotsuba, I usually avoid commie threads.
And a 2017 pasta isn't "classic".

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Ok that... that's pretty sellable.

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A way to make money without any effort and also without investing, huh? Mind sharing it with the class?

Explain what part of my post leads you to believe I would care.

>the problem is billionaires
>the problem isn't state-sponsored usury
Brainlet take, my guy

Offshoring is a meme. Nobody has ever gotten rich by putting their money in a bank account and waiting. They're all business owners or investors.

Very nice

I'm not wrong and you know it but maybe if you work hard you'll be a billionaire too

The dude's a retard, only actual redditors think him spending money on le cybertruck or le rockets is anything but a waste.

No they are made by workers that got paid with money that was invested into buisness. They would not be made if there was no investment

>steal what others earn
literally what capitalism does except the money gets funneled up instead of down.
Outside of silicon valley tech startups and maybe some leftover dotcom boom holdouts, billionaires did not earn their money. Your dream vision of an Ayn Rand superman who revolutionizes the world with his trains is not fucking realistic.

>Neither of those are ways of hording money
Ironically, the result is hoarding money.

It's spelled h-o-a-r-d-i-n-g, by the way. Second grade word, at best.

Capitalism is natural order of things. People exchange X on Y and use money to make process easier.
Blame your shitty government for not collecting taxes from rich people properly, not capitalism.

If you're not wrong then how about actually responding to what I said instead of changing the subject?

>People that make their money from exploiting others and hoarding so much wealth that it actively impacts large economies are something to aspire to.

This is the one thing I can agree with commie on, other things FUCK NO but this one issue, yes.

I love it when poorfags defend the rich for their greed. It's like a self-preservation tactic in case they become rich at some point. They never do.

>people make money therefore bad
If you're going to be picky enough to police typos, then you should come forward with an actual argument.

Forgot Yotsuba

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No, I didn't say without investing. Ideally, investing is taking risk FOR YOURSELF. Stock exchanges are centralized economies that stand in conflict with a free market, just like the Fed. There simply isn't any sweat equity for people that just happen to own things or have cheated their way to ownership, which is entirely legal in our current system, and an integral part of it. Ideally, owners would be merited to own. They would have worked well, or at least be demonstrably better at managing to the benefit of all. There is no assurance of this as is, and there is incentive to cheat.

I'm with you to an extent. Non-productive billionaires shouldn't exist. I see nothing wrong with Taylor Swift selling a billion records for $2 a piece and being a billionaire, or Jeff Bezos starting a company and holding onto the equity until he became a billionaire.

Should it be possible for Warren Buffet to become a billionaire? Probably not.

I'd even go so far as to say people like Jeff Bezos are more often than not "cheating" their way to the top by getting sweetheart deals (subsidized USPS rates) or government contracts that no one else gets (CIA / DoD etc putting their shit on Amazon's cloud).

Nevertheless some folks genuinely do produce a lot of wealth.

lol they def collect mad interest off it and also avoid paying taxes by holding it offshore its not even a secret or a conspiracy its just somethin rich niggas do

Your post is filled with stupidity. I'm not even going to try to defend against that stream of mental illness. This response is only here to tell you that you are too stupid to be alive. Lurk at least until you high school.

I may be a poorfag, but at least I'm not a commie

Before I stop lurking this thread I want to thank the based Yotsubanon who helped me to grow my Yotsuba folders.

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I’ll invalidate it.
>billionaires banned = them fleeing the country
>millionaires banned = them fleeing the country
>six figure folks banned = get fucked hard on taxes
>under $100k = get fucked the most

Now everyone is broke. Why innovate as you just pay more tax. The whole goal of working hard is to have better pussy and shit than the next guy. Billionaires bring jobs. If you can’t safe capital then one bad year you lay people off or fail. It’s not a billionaire issue it’s a “we fucking off shored our jobs with the gov backing it, let H1B visas in, added woman in the work place, fuck over small business, EPA bullshit, social security and Medicare taxes, workman’s comp, insurance”. Add all of that with 2/3 the budget going to boomer legacy entitlements and fucking over the young. It’s not billionaires shouldn’t exist it’s low wages to begin with shouldn’t be and it’s a strictly gov manufactured problem.

Respond to what the fact billionaires horde absurd amount of money and own insane amounts of homes whilst the working man struggles.

I'm not wrong

The ruling class could still be rich beyond anyone's wildest dreams yet life could better for the common man

Soon the working man will realise that we can just take the possessions of the rich and there is nothing you can do

You said "capital allows people to make money with zero effort, and they don't need to invest". If you meant something different, then you misrepresented yourself. If you weren't saying that you don't need to invest, then your post had nothing to do with mine.

>ad hoc is my only response
nigger tier, pinkos get what they deserve

It's true

private and public power are both power and that power is largely interchangeable due to how easy people are to bribe. The end result of wealth inequality will be monarchy without the ceremony. A total planned economy will not be equal if the ruling party give themselves the best shit like they usually do.

centralization of power and resources will always try to maintain it's centralized existence, the answer is to de-centralize power itself, but that means more civic responsibility and accountability in more ways than what most people are willing to engage with.

This is why some plebeian class is always ruled by some kind of elites.

>Capitalism is natural order of things
Natural order of things can be found in the jungle
So if you want to live with monkey and gorillas, go on and live your natural order of things
I for myself want all critical means of production being nationalised, because those who run the factory should also own the factory
Furthermore, the accumulated wealth of billionaires should be seized and evenly distributed to the whole population
There should also be a cap on how much wealth a single person is allowed tp accumulate in his lifetime( ~ 5millions)
Inheritance should be either highly taxed or outright forbidden

No bank account in the world has enough interest for it to ever be a good idea to just turn it over to a bank. You know what the interest rate actually is? It's the bank paying you a tiny cut of the profits that it makes from investing your money. You're literally just asking them to give you a lot of money, and obviously none of them will. Nobody gets rich from offshore bank accounts. That's silly.

Literally no. Sears, Maceys, etc etc just go belly up and die the second theyre expected to compete online. theyd rather go out of business than even try.

Socialism is the politics of the worker. Turn tour back on your fellow working man to please your boss after all you work hard so he can enjoy your labour

They don't have to invest. They can simply sell or rent their current property, and it will continue to make profit. Obviously, they or others that have passed on capital have invested at one point, but they do so in control of others without any necessary merit. It's like you tried to miss the point.

>only actual redditors think him spending money on le cybertruck or le rockets is anything but a waste.
That I disagree with. The truth is, it's research that will affect the future of humanity. Having someone with the spending power to do such exhaustive research isn't a bad thing. It would likely otherwise never be done. The fact that he's burning tax money doing it instead of his own billions is the part that I disagree with.

So, buying and selling is stealing, but actually stealing is redistribution? For all the problems T_D had, we never had a commie infestation.

We done here?

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Where are they going to flee and with what? We are taking their property and capital also the revolution will be global

You can't even tell what you're supposed to be responding to? Your confusion has gotten that severe? I'm fascinated. You think that the only thing unaddressed is your own argument. You're living in a completely alternative reality from me. It's like an active cognitive VR.

No. What you're meant to be responding to is this . Your wildly insufficient post at fails to address the points raised at all.

If you're going to expect respect, you should do it under a non-meme flag.

??? No one here that isn't some reddit transplant newfag is going to argue in favor of billionaires existing. We all want to see them hang, commies and national socialists alike. We just want to hang you degenerate subversives too, right next to your kike masters.

niggers should not exist

Why should I give a fuck about my fellow working man when they're apparently a bunch of commie faggots?

So you did mean "without investing". Stop being so obtuse. So your argument is that you can rent property to keep making money. Trouble with that is that then you also have to maintain the property. Any time anything breaks down, you're the one who has to fix it. And you pay the property taxes. So that example is out. Pick another.

My assumption that you're a poorfag was correct. Your assumption that I'm communist is just an ignorant and non-applicable jab, like what I'd get from a little kid after I took his baseball away and wouldn't give it back.

Note the lack of an argument from the seething retard. He hopes that his shitpost will be salient enough to prevent people from noticing that he has effectively conceded.

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>Now everyone is broke.
Your logic is far from flawless.

You also need to change her hat to a swastika or stahlhelm.

Yeah bring fucking jungle animals to discussion greentexting commie faggot. Nobody cares what you want, capitalism is the best of the worst we have, rest simply doesn't work, and all this "kill all rich" shit always ends up in bloodshed where poor ones die.

>ahh yes CEO Mister Shekelstein deserves to see 8billion more dollars he won't spend in his account this year
>surely all the workers who produce the labor that keeps his business running won't mind if he cuts health care benefits and shits on the sick leave and vacation policies
>it doesn't matter that the workers at his business make only 5% more than they would have in the 90s while health care costs have ballooned by thousands of percentiles and cost of general living has gone up 30+%
lmao imagine being a Randcuck

Putin is a billionaire.