Italians BTFO'd by Dutch health/crisis experts

"Italy, for example, is now just being incredibly stupid," says Helsloot. "They're bringing their own society to a standstill through isolation. Soon the coronavirus will be eradicated, but the Italian economy will be ruined. Then there will be no more money for health care and it will take years to recover."

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you know how many would get infected if Italians went on with daily life?

You know you're white when you value money over health

Dutch Prime Minister Rutte said Monday at a press conference on the coronavirus that he did not want to take any stricter measures for the time being. "We are a sober people and are not waiting for symbolic measures, just because it suits a feeling of now something is happening," he said.

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>Keep it normal, the economy = health care!!!
Too bad, the virus only can be eliminated if everyone isolated themselves for some week.
Literally anti-cure for economy.

LOL just a monthly lockdown won't do shit, Luigi will be back to exporting Lambos and macaroni in 1 week

screencap his speech and post it 2 weeks from now

Why did korona spread so much in Italy? Where did it get from?

You live in the country of retards.
In the Netherlands they don't test you if show no symptoms anymore, even though you could still be infected.

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Also there are only enough ICUs for 300 COVID-19 patients.

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He's right, we should let it spread to kill all the boomers that are taking retirment money, it would be a huge relief for our debt situation

>Where did it get from
germany

>Luigi actually get cured
>Go out
>Dutch cough at them

It may be discrimination but in my opinion Dutch experts are smarter than Italian experts. Dutch think with their brain, Italians with their heart. You can't think with your heart.

>NOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN MONEYRINOS

>It's just a flu lol let then infect all of EU
Clogniggers are retarded

first cases in italy were chinese tourists in rome, also a lot of people here got infected in north italy, so don't blame this shit on us.

It’s a test run for the chinese take over. Chinks already wear masks and live in a police state.

Dutch people are soulless

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Most based way dealing with a pandemic?
>Do we know how many people are infected in the Netherlands?

No, we don't. According to Sjaak de Gouw of the GGD (Dutch public health service) we shouldn't stare at the RIVM (National Institute for Public Health) figures. What is certain is that there are more than those figures show. "There are probably also a lot of people with mild symptoms, who just get sick at home and don't report, but may have the virus. This virus causes 80 per cent mild complaints," says De Gouw. Only people who have a fever are advised to call the GGD.

Also people who have mild symptoms and come from Northern Italy are not tested. Since Friday, this also applies to roommates of people who have the virus and have symptoms themselves, even if that is a fever.

The chinese tourist didn't spread it because they were tested immediately, also that was in rome the german brought it to the north undetected

>first cases in italy were chinese tourists in rome,
it was a german manager who came from china

Shut up subhuman

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You are an insolent people, nothing more

>Italian economy will be ruined
It is ruined before corona chan so not an argument tbqh

dont bother
Its bad here, but even worse down there, lmao

Already 500 cases 5 dead and 0 recovered in Netherlands for 1% early death rates.
This gonna be amazing when look at Netherlands citizen continues "normal life" and spread corona nonstop and overrun their hospital thus increase death rates.
Your politician and "expert" unlikely to die anyway. They probably already have a bed ready just for them.

The Dutch Coofers

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At least it's not terminal 7

Dutch expert coofer gonna evolve into brain terminal and reinfected Luigi anyway lol.
With neighbours like this I wonder why it's spread so far and mutate so fast.

Since the beginning of February, everyone with flu or respiratory complaints has been tested for corona in 42 general practitioners' practices throughout the Netherlands. So far, only a general practitioner from Eindhoven has tested someone positive.
We don't have a big spread here retard.

Not yet lol.
Peoples that get tested not mean they immunity to virus, retard. It's like you searching for mines, but the enemy keeps planning more every time even in the zone you already check.
Thank to your politicians, they gonna prove my point.

We literally have the best experts in the world. They know what they are doing. Do you really trust Italians to make good decisions? Of coursenot, nobody does.
Can't wait for Sunday when I am going to watch some footy with 52.000 other people.

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wont somebody PLEASE think of muh economy

>born too late to explore the word
>born too early to explore space
>born just in time to watch d*Tchoids kill themselves off
maybe it aint so bad afterall

Nobody is an expert on a virus that broke out a few months ago you white trash

>my opinion is better than your opinion because it has a dutch nationality

cool beans

>NONONO IF OUR PEOPLE DONT WORK HOW AM I GONNA ADVENCE MY POLITICAL CAREER WITH GDP LOST, QUICK TELL THE PEOPLE "They're bringing their own society to a standstill through isolation. Soon the coronavirus will be eradicated, but the Italian economy will be ruined. Then there will be no more money for health care and it will take years to recover."

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The Italian bad decision literally not believe in pandemic happener and not isolated themselves from Chinese or potential Infected, they even have some movement about hugging those Chinese.
Also one of the reasons why this just a flu spread so far thank to expert keep spreading news that it's really just a flu and even easier to treat than SARS.
To be honest, I like Netherland more than Italy even I like both. If you think i'm more biased to Netherland more than Italy, you wrong.

OH NO NO NO

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Shut up sexpat

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I'm not sexpat lmao. Literally native, Luigi please.

Do you not see Norwegian people as smarter than Italian people when it comes to making rational decisions? Italians have too much passion to think with their brain sometimes.

It will be a rational infection then. Sober and proper paced pandemic

quads confirm. My passion is telling me to coof in the general direction of the Netherlands, though. What should I do, o rational one?

My country is so retarded.

>but the Italian economy will be ruined

Haven't they been ruined since like 2009?

imbecile
the quarantine prevention measures are for buying time not eliminating the virus, till the vaccine can be developed

>NOOOOO NOT MY JEWISH OVERLORDS' MONEY PLEASE

>muh cause we're blond and nordic and germanics therefore zuperiors to idalianz xDxDxD
C'mon be serious, Geert. That's real life not /pol or Stormfront

Don't worry we already know you're a mass of autistic cocaine addicts, you have nothing more to prove

You should never wash your hands like the dutch master race.

>the quarantine prevention measures are for buying time not eliminating the virus, till the vaccine can be developed

do you mean it's going to last until the next year?

>Helsloot, Dutch Health/Crisis Expert and Precious Metals Investor

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I only mean about locally or group. Not every single case of virus user. Also
>Implying vaccine gonna cure everyone
Forgot about the anti-vaccine already ?

>but the Italian economy will be ruined

You can't ruin what's already ruined, they are playing 4D chess with us again

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Lol this densely populated country with one of the highest rates already and not even really testing is gonna get it bad. Two of my co workers probably have it and I’m now home for two weeks. At least the Italians are doing something

most, but few would die, mostly useless old people

We really have no choice.
Either these strict measures or a full blown epidemic out of control.

Holland is acting armchair general here.

Le Olandese Furente lmfao
Probabily when he was in holidays in 5 Terre a local chad fucked his wife and his daughter and now he's projecting hard

Actually based.
Just adhere to standard flu season precautions more stringently and this meme virus amounts to nothing.

>mostly useless old people
In the beginning yes, not with massive spreading.
In my town a 18 years old guy is unironically near dead cause of covid.

I feel so sorry for Italians. No one deserves such a disaster.

>Sober people
I wonder how high he was when he said this

Marco Zannoni, Director of the Dutch Institute for Safety and Crisis Management (COT):
>Action should be guided by expertise and not sentiment. As far as I can tell, that's what's happening at the moment.
All the Dutch experts say that the measurememts that the national health board has taken is good. Do you seriously not think that some Italians do not think with the heart but with the brain? Of courae some do think with the brain, but you cannot deny that the Italian passion goes in the way of rational thinking.

Netherlands is the worst country in terms of giving a fuck about corona virus, they are worse than the USA. The entire Western part of EU is a disappointment.

that's the date estimate for a vaccine release afaik
what anti vaxxers? they've been really quiet lately and hopefully die first

>Do you seriously not think that some Italians do not think with the heart but with the brain?
Yes, the ones south of Florence and Rimini does it

That is the view of a lot of health professionals. It is backed up by the results in south korea where they went on a testing spree and it shows that the virus has a less than 1% mortality rate.
The number of unreported cases dwarfs the reported ones, but people just take it as a standard seasonal illness, get over it and move on. There is nothing special about this aside from the panic that the media has induced in the populations.

>TWO NIGERIANS INFECTED IN TURIN

IT BEGINS!!!!

Tomorrow I will travel to Rome, in two weeks I will go to Hong Kong and in May I will go to Japan. Am I worried, am I going to panic? Not at all.

Anti-vaxx people exist purely because they live such comfortable lives they need to make up a new villain--like muh chemicals!! Nooo not chemicals!!

When you have real problems then you dont care about chemicals or artificial or vaxx.

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>the italian economy will be ruined

Good. Can't wait for the rise of fascism.

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>symbolic
>not about managing capacity

Does he not realize it's about buying time, so the healthcare system doesn't get swamped by sudden peaks of new cases.

Like in Italy where some dude's sister couldn't get help and is literally left to rot.

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Very correct. The dutch need a lesson, corona chan will provide it.

>they even have some movement about hugging those Chinese
Will you fags stop projecting a single guy's virtue signaling over an entire nation

That's literally how our leftists reacted here when the epidemic started.
Screencapped this thread, if you'll surive we'll laught at you and dutch intellectuals when the pandemic is over.

I'm sure those guys who still claim the virus just a flu also anti-vaxxers, they just change the way they speak.
Also I start to hear
>80% peoples only get mild sympton, this just a flu !
Surely they believe they don't fall to 20% case.

I never say all Italian do that. Some are enough to spread chaos.

>That is the view of a lot of health professionals. It is backed up by the results in south korea where they went on a testing spree and it shows that the virus has a less than 1% mortality rate.
They didn't just testing spree. They socially distanced, tested, quarantined. This allows for numbers to stay low, this means hospitals dont get blown out, and everyone can be served and given quality care.

Italy and the rest of EU test bare minimum. US tests probably less than bare minimum but who cares, unless you are testing South Korea or Singapore tier it makes no difference. This means the number of cases explodes, so does the number of critical cases, so does the number of deaths. Less than 1% is the best possible result with all good care. Now Europe has to turn away people at the ICU and just let them die. And its only going to get worse, USA in the next few weeks will be the same as in the EU this week

But it's not even some, it really is just that one guy and I'm pretty sure he didn't do it for more than an afternoon

Non dirne

I'm sorry to hear that, netherbro

Now is the time for EU to create the EU army including Medical Corps and send it in to help save Italy.

Soul.

Souless.

It's the same thing how attitudes changed from before a couple of months to now and how they changed just this week, here in particular.

Not one guy lol.
I actually read more about this Chinese hugging thing. It's seem like there's actually a movement about hugging them until 25 February with many images of different men and women.
Probably not that big but enough for a thrust.

The leftists were right, Mario.
Mass hysteria is the reason why so many people are dying in Italy.

>Soon the coronavirus will be eradicated,
>

He might believe in weathercope. Europe doesnt use AC so

>Dutch Prime Minister Rutte said Monday at a press conference on the coronavirus that he did not want to take any stricter measures for the time being.
We said that 5 days ago, today cerradMadrid >closeMadrid is trending on twitter in Spain

Don't expect stinky foreigners to understand superior Dutch pragmatism.
The two are inextricably linked.
Unironically just do it.

Helsloot more like HE-SLUT lol amirite?

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Governments rack up deficits for all sorts of superfluous shit.

Now that it's literally a matter of life and death is when we start taking the long view?

lol one of the politicians pushing for #MilanoWontStop literally ended up corona'd. And please do explain how it's the "hysteria" getting people infected and killed by the virus - or are you assuming the numbers are inflated by idiots getting trampled at the supermarket or something?

The ones expiring are people that got sick weeks ago, yesterday the second registered case in the country died for example, shit has nothing to do with the recent measures

>Now is the time for EU to create the EU army including Medical Corps and send it in to help save Italy.

Euros GET ON THIS RIGHT NOW!!

Yeah. I'm currently laid off because of the coronavirus. When the layoff started they said it would only last 2 weeks. I'm currently on week 5 of the layoff.

Time to get a new job ideally one where you make those hospital masks

So cliché:
Tourists taking pictures like they're holding up toppling Italian banks

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Don't bother, he's clearly a brainlet.
We'll start to see the first victims of the hysteria in a week or two, especially in the south.
Lombardy healthcare is almost collapsing and doing triage.

fucking dutch cancer posters

St. Patrick day parades cancelled in NYC, Boston, and Chicago. Even Ireland.
St. Patricks day is cancelled.
Holy shit.
Its happening.

It is about managing a good healthcare system. If you are young and have mild symptomps of corona you should self quarantine and not go to the doctor and get treated in hospital so there will be enough room for the people who really need it. Italy fucked it up, testing everyone and everywhere.

check'd

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A year MINIMUM this thing will have the time go around the world twice and infect the pope, your dog and your grandmother.

South Korea tested everyone and everywhere first. Unlike Europe though they tested people in order to better quarantine and contain the virus.

>tfw countries around the world begin crippling their own economy by locking down, while the Netherlands rises above the rest

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N-not my grandma though, right? hahaha

why are dutchoids so obsessed with us, I will never know

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See, you just don't know what you're talking about: the infected are already separated between people that NEED intensive care and people that can afford to simply self-quarantine, but here you are suggesting "lol just ignore the symptoms bro nobody needs to know"

It's the people who need ICUs to survive that are making the te healthcare collapse not the ones with mild symptomps, retard.

Do you think she's alright? Didn't she have Crohn's or something?

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>Italy
>facism
LOL!!!!

it happened during wwii they were allies with hitler same as japan

Yes, if you have symptoms you should not get tested or tell anyone to prevent mass hysteria like in Italy. Of course you don't go to elderly etc. You italians fucked it up big time. Typical

Fascism is italian, what is so funny?

Just fatlard education

>Crohn's
Chrohn's is a perfectly managable "disease" 90% of the time.

I won't bother responding no more, dude, i just can't

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Well I guess Italians are weak anyway, I'm not surprised.

Hubei locked THE FUCK down at like 500 cases 20 deaths or about. They are finally winding down these past few weeks, currently almost 100k cases, thousands deaths (they made sure to make all kinds of new facilities to hold all the corona patients)
Italy ""locked down"" at like...almost 10k cases and hundreds deaths?

According to my math....we are all fucked. Thank you and goodnight

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We need to send our love to Italia. This is a difficult time for them and they are precious people.

>According to my math....we are all fucked.
Don't know if this trolling or NOT?

You're fucked either way because Orange Man's administration pretends it's not an issue.

This is truly the year of the NEET

Orange man to me is like Brussels or some shit to you. Like what does he do? Make some speeches and whine about shit. Who cares. States can do their own thing as they always have and now most of them have corona tests even. My city has bravely cancelled the St. Patrick Day parade. (Our version of "Carnival" for Euros).

But yes I am fucked, glad you notice. EU and USA are fucked, wish I live in Singapore but I dont oh well.

Sorry to hear about your first corona case, looks like handwashing only gets you so far

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We're the worst country in Europe at handling it, were headed straight for the top of most infected relative to population. Prime minister first thing she says about it is profits something and muh stockmarket, fat k1ke bitch, plaroons of italian tourists walking around and being allowed in the past week+ only now are they slowing down travel. "worlds best country" my fucking prolapsed asshole, just pay attention Norway is going for the silver medal atleast in being wrecked by this just a flu bro

A vaccine can't be developed the virus mutates too fast

lol source? So far mutation has been pretty minimal.

IT'S HAPPENING

NOW

President Conte just announced the total closing of the Tertiary Sector nationwide

How long before they weld you guys in?

Thanks, boomer gonna die shits sad but what can you do...

You guys aren't too packed in cities though right?That'll help slow it down at least.

let's hope not, honestly a few anons really make you want see their countries burn, but that wouldnt make our situation one bit better

You open our doors inwardly.

This is gonna get worse right, right Italianbros?

I feel a tickle in my throat...fuck

How long before you weld the rest of world out?

It has to get worse before it gets better. Symptoms takes an average of ~5 days to manifest, then 7-8 days before it "gets bad". Any change they make today will take at least couple week before you see difference on the ICU.

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT YOU HAVE TO DIE REEEEEEEEEEEE MY GLOBAL MARKET IS LITERALLY SHAKING STOP SPREADING FEAR NOOOOOOO NOT MY DOLLARINOS

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Now that they're in full lockdown, they're about to discover the rest of the patients that have been infected while fewer new cases appear. It's what happened in China.
Countries that are past the 1000 infected mark (maybe less) will have to go through the same. Just my opinion but I'm fairly confident about it.

they say we're very close to our peak
I hope they're right, cause this situation is starting to get on my nerves

I think its interesting that we sat on our ass as Iran and China got fucked but once Italy gets fucked its red alert.

Well same here too Italybro but media is about to pull an Armaggeddon on everyone and the whole world is freaking out.

Dutch people clearly have no soul. I think it will be confirmed by science in the future.

you should just lock your grandparents in and slide them food thru the mail slot

damn the madman is going for the highscore

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>My passion is telling me to coof in the general direction of the Netherlands
Fuck off, we're in the way

lmao, if the CCP isnt going to weld in my grandma I'll have to do it myself.

>DUDE JUST DIE FOR THE ECONOMY LMAO
Classic boomer reply. Everything to keep the casino open.

NOOOOOOO not Yas Forums. We're in the devil den guys.

Dutch men are soulless and the women are demoniac, nothing new,move on.

I hate our mods so much ever since they broke us up to bant

> Helsloot
who?

>Soon the coronavirus will be eradicated
How is this supposed to happen without quarantines?

This. People need to stop being so close minded and racist. Their GDP could triple if they completely opened their borders and opened up all public spaces for business.

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who’s this nigger mod ruining everything

>Soon the coronavirus will be eradicated, but the Italian economy will be ruined.
If dutch experts say this, they will not make it.

>President Conte just announced the total closing of the Tertiary Sector nationwide
Source?

I'm with you pastanon, I'm happy your gov decided to pull up the walls, I wish you well

It's no coincidence, there was a whole series of fuck ups in Italy that caused it

Italians, you know what to do

>Soon the coronavirus will be eradicated
A week ago they told me that it'll be "just another common flu" that comes back every season.

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just print money, euscum

France is cured

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>says Helsloot.

Literally, WHO?

>Italy, stop closing your borders and dying, it makes our lies look bad

San Marino

Im here im in ur face what are u going to do about it. Yes I got hair on my balls, can't you see? Im right in ur face.

So what that Im a man??

I seriously fucking hate my government, these people are clinically insane.. Also note that the mayor of Amsterdam has bought a house on the edge of the city, it's very remote, she bought it cus "peace and quiet" total cohencidence

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You are going to be majorly fucked in a couple of weeks.

After this will be over America should make another Marshall plan for countries affected by this virus let's call it Trump plan desu famn

a dish of spaghetti, isn't it? with some nice mandolino music of accompainment maybe?

Italians, my thoughts and prayers are with you. Our country is being extremely arrogant, ignorant and fucking stupid. Just look at our MP, literal meme. If I could help I would, but for now let's hope that you get well there. I've been in Italy 4 times, I love that country.

Extreme weather cope or super vaccine cope or as we are exposed it will become another disease like chicken pox was--a mild illness you get in childhood unless you are fucked enough to get it as an older person.

good for you
the dutch tourism industry will emerge supreme, italians BTFO
if anyone really wants to spend billions of dollars saving a few thousand lives, buy 10,000 more ambulances. I'm not fucking kidding, do the math.

>Soon the coronavirus will be eradicated,
[citation needed]

He isn't wrong. Italy nuked their economy to save the lives of 80 year old heavy smokers.

yeah aka most of their population, Italy is old as shit

Ahahaha dutchies are so fucked within 10 days. Nuchtere Hollanders will get what they deserve

the grandparents you never met are probably safe in an indian sewer or died in china, so you'd never understand.

here you go buddy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemic_curve
in b4 bickering over "eradicated"
when was the last time plague swept through your village, user?

Dutch government is an arrogant government, Halsema thought with her brain when she said there's nothing to worry about, and then she bought a new house away from everything and everyone, she knows exactly what's going on and she is isn't sharing it with the plebs. The Netherlands is completely over-systemised. VVD is cucked by lefties and GroenLinks are actual communists and socialists who don't care about individuals, they see us as a herd of mindless sheep. I'd rather turn NL into a second Polandesque economy than this "keep calm cus economy" bullshit societies fall, they all do.

Theres a place in northern italy thats full of sweatshops that make Gucci handbags and shoes thats exclusively staffed by Chinese.

israel

>the dutch tourism industry will emerge supreme
But the Netherlands suck and their tourism industry has only whores, weed, and Anne Frank

>NOOOO THINK OF THE ECONORINO!!! NOT MY STOCKSIE-WOCKSIES!!!!. YOU CANT JUST SHUT DOWN YOUR COUNTRY IN MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC

oy vey keep working goyim who said you could stop?

So in a hilarious turn of events it seems like Dutch medical experts have actually bought into the all-races-are-the-same mentality since they are using data from fucking Worst Korea to base themselves on spread instead of Italy. What a timeline

trips of truth
stereotypes aside the life expectancy in most of europe is 80, not 110
Italy did this because they have laws saying officials who don't protect the public can go to jail. they're the only western country that does this. anyone remember the seismologists?

In 1 week the Netherlands will be begging China for aid.

Yeah sure, only 80 year olds are going to die, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to get into a car crash or another accident and then get denied at the hospital because all the intensive care beds are being occupied by corona'd dudes hooked up to a respirator

COVID itself isn't that bad, the bad thing is the stress which applies on the healthcare system, which is why the quarantine was good - it's so that the infection spreads over a longer period and so the healthcare system isn't as strained

I dont know what the dutch are planning, I'd just hope that dutch healthcare is really fucking good otherwise my tulipbros are in for some deep shit

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