Anyone else realize that the reason its illegal in some places is either due to religious bullshit or the local men being cucked by their women who wanna eliminate competition?
>also anyone else feel less and less averse to the idea of doing it personally the more and more women they fuck
pussy has NO value. Stop being a simp.
Lad don't bother paying for it. "Normal" lasses will do some fucking degenerate shit for free and actually think its liberating or something. Kind of put me off to tell the truth.
Yeah this. Only a fool pays for pussy.
yooo this nigga really PAYIN’ FO PUSSY????
You guys are misreading my post, I meant the more normal girls I fuck the less it bothers me to think about going to pic rel
You don't pay for the pussy
You pay so that the pussy goes away
>imagine taking time to talk-up a vapid moron just to dump your load
>imagine talking to the atrophied brain attached to it afterward
>imagine caring about its emotions
kek
You don't pay 'em to sleep with you. You pay 'em to leave.
Nothing wrong with going there really lad. I wouldn't say so anyway. Not for me is all.
I dunno, I gotta get to the point in my life where like I've got a ton of girls in my phone I can hit up at any time and they're automatically down to fuck, and outta pure laziness or maybe for the novelty of it I decide to go do that shit
Also I've never cum from a blowjob in my life cause these girls are bad at it + I've got a big dick and none of em can deepthroat me, and if this shit continues in the coming years then I might have no choice
There's loads of men who would fuck hookers if it was legal, they non ironically give no fucks and would totally wipe out women's pussy power
Something really funny to me is that when I talked about legalizing hookers my IRL friend said that he'd get really high and fuck loads of em, shit was comical he was just so non chalant about it and gave no fucks lol
It's illegal because of the amount of human trafficking it causes brainlet.
bullshit argument
Not my fault you're too stupid to understand
That happens BECAUSE it's illegal. You've made it a low supply high margin commodity making it lucrative for criminal enterprise. Similar to drugs.
trafficking happens when something is illegal, brainlet. there would be an abundance of girls gravitating towards legal prostitution and the demand for imported Russian sex slaves would greatly decrease.
historically it was outlawed for 2 reasons:
>keep harmony in the family unit
>keep disease at bay
keeping disease at bay is the only legit argument but that alone is not enough to make it make sense to outlaw
>keep harmony in the family unit
If the wife would put out on demand, take it in the ass, keep herself in shape, and git gud at sucking dick then the husband would never bother going to a hooker
>imagine banning hookers because of the wives bitching
>imagine having your balls in their hands
This is why I'm never getting married
Prostitution IS pussy power you fools. You're paying for few minutes pleasure and she walks off with the money. That money is your irreplaceable time and effort. She can put that in the bank or do whatever while you're left with meaningless sex and fading feelings. She's using you.
Want to destroy the power of pussy? Don't pay for it, enslave it.
End women's rights.
Make it illegal for them to own property.
Make it legal for husbands to beat their wives.
Make it illegal for women to initiate divorce.
Then you get pussy for free and not just from fatties either.
Then you keep your money.
Then you can make her shut the fuck up and don't even have to pay her to piss off.
Then you can do what you want without looking at the clock.
The best part?
This is what women themselves want!
Don't believe me? Just let women's actions speak for themselves.
Disease and degeneracy.
Why would you need a healthy relationship if you can pay beautiful whores to have sex with you (and it's socially accepted).
>If wife
Marry her, make children, get a new wife when you're not satisfied.
It only empowers the hookers themselves, and deals a death blow to all the non hookers who would be the vast majority of women
So basically your advocating for illegalizing it to blueball men into getting married? Fuck off
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I mean, maybe you'd have less niggers driving by if they had more dads in their life. Niggers are the ones pimping the most and fucking prostitutes the most.
I'd rather have less prostitution and more activism on family values, maybe you'd have less retards in the U.S that way.
Weak women and weak men create and encourage this behavior.
You don't get it dumbfuck
I HAVE fucked loads of hookers
You're paying for few minutes pleasure and she walks off with the money.
You have correctly described prostitution.
All European countries with legalized prostitution host victims of human trafficking, people indentured to the parlors they work. Amsterdam is the center for human trafficking violations in the entirety of that continent. Generally I don't care about holes, but these specific morons were baited with fake job offers and hoodwinked into working off "debts" they accrued via their migration. They're slaves.
cool story bro.
I dont care if niggers fuck hookers or pimp them, I want them to be legal for everyone
Dont agree to pay for your immigration via becoming a hooker if your gonna bitch about it later, if the girl hates it so much then go work for mcdonalds or something
>inb4 they really have no choice
oh well, they knew what they signed up for, taking dick isn't that bad and its not gonna last forever
>Ban prostitution to stop human trafficking
>Ban drugs to stop drug trafficking
>Ban guns to stop gun trafficking
Are you seriously one of those people who think banning something solves the problem and DOESN'T create a booming black market for it? Do you think prohibition was successful?
Sex work to me sounds based and redpilled especially since I’m a incel who hasn’t had sex ever, a sex worker will probably be my first.
Here feminists are actually quite torn about it. Prostitution is currently legal but only if woman is working solo, which means that brothels and pimping (as well as street walkers) are illegal.
It's the boomer feminists who want to completely outlaw it but younger feminists actually support it because sex workers are now one of their holy cows.
Bump for interest
I think the biggest three reasons for it being illegal are:
1) It makes the cost of pussy cost more by creating a limited supply. This financially benefits the women, the legal system (lawyers, lobbyists, etc), and private companies that deal with marriage (diamond industry, wedding industry, etc).
2) It's a move done by weak Marxist leaning males thinking they're going to get more pussy simply for existing. I've noticed a decent portion of these men who think it should be illegal, but have no problem spending several hundreds of dollars on dinner and drinks for women hoping to get laid.
3) It give ammunition for people to manipulate others after-the-fact of prostitution taking place, or a rumor of prostitution taking place for various exploitative reasons.
>................[financially benefits] the legal system (lawyers, lobbyists, etc), and private companies that deal with marriage (diamond industry, wedding industry, etc).
Holly balls, I never even thought of that
Everything else you said is pure redpill too
Fuck this gay country
Of course it takes fellow countryman to say the truth. Most of the dumb-asses, mutts and virgins on this board for some reason thinks that you pay for the pussy and they will always btfo themselves.
And you are a moron too.
Money = your time.
Dating = your time and money.
Prostitute = your money.
With this simple equation, you can see the difference straight away. With regular dating or just banging some tinder sluts, you are paying twice - with your time and money (which in reality is your time x2, as time is finite and actually valuable resource in opposition to unbacked money). With prostitute, you pay simply by your money, thus time x1.
>All European countries with legalized prostitution host victims of human trafficking
Nonsense, as the difference between legislation is great. Some can be lenient toward such practices, while most of them are not.
Kek was on that street 10 minutes ago
This is why I pay hookers desu.
Im already in a relationship. I don't need another one.
The exchange in money is to ensure these bitches never talk to me when we are done.
I never go higher than 140. No pussy is worth more than that.
It should be legal.
Men should be able to fuck any able bodied single woman should the feelings be mutual. If money necessitates the mutuality in the case of whores, so be it.
It should be legal, which will result in less crimes against women and maybe less women will act like sluts as they won't be anywhere near to professional
I've been to a professional brothel overseas. It was an amazing experience.
>women
>human
??
>Dont agree to pay for your immigration via becoming a hooker if your gonna bitch
They agree to waitress jobs or toilet cleaners, then get forced into paying off "debts" by selling pussy.
The vast majority of prostitutes aren't there by choice.
Legal prostitution on designated streets is better than illegal prostitution which is unavoidable.
>source: trust me dude, I'm prostitute expert from USA.
>human trafficking
This is a leftist phrase intended to confuse prostitution and slavery, child abuse and other true crimes. If you're talking about prostitution, say, "prostitution," If you're talking about long-term labor contracts for prostitution, say it that way.
Yeah well, prostitutes in Paris all look like horrible 50 year olds, from what I've seen... I'll give it a miss, personally
>They agree to waitress jobs or toilet cleaners, then get forced into paying off "debts" by selling pussy.
This is how they justify it to themselves and anyone who asks. They know exactly what they're getting into.
t. Fucked many hookers in multiple countries.
You have quite possibly the most cucked laws about prostitution in Europe.
>legal to offer sexual work and provide it
>illegal to buy it
The EU and UN uses such a broad definition, and the EU openly admits to it being broad when the EU changed it in 2011.
>Article 3 of the UN Protocol, better known as the Palermo Protocol, defines THB as: ‘the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments and benefits to achieve the consent of a person, having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation’
>ec.europa.eu
By that definition, sex workers that simply travel can be counted as trafficked, even if they originally go willingly, and make money with no threat of violence any third-party involved (e.g. pimp, brothel, etc).
The countries that do count also usually have financial and legal incentives for claiming to be victims. For example, housing, stipends, and refugee immigration status. So instead of being prostitutes for a man, they become prostitutes for the government.
Agreed.
Yes, high-visibility ones are high-mileage.
Anything that needs to be advertised is low tier.
Avoid Amsterdam. It's mostly low tiers fucking diseased blacks and sandnigs there to smoke mediocre weed at inflated prices.
If you're really going to europe for that then Germany and Switzerland are where you want to go.
>religious bullshit
WRONG, "because religion" is always a cover for a real reason. In the case of gambling and prostitution its because its too easy and therefore too hard for the State to take their cut.
It cracks me up how in some jurisdictions it's decriminalized for the prostitutes but not for the John.
Yeah, there was a big row when it was discussed, always funny to see feminists (and femoids generally) having a chimp-out... Not a customer myself, and no real opinion on the matter apart from lulz (and pretty sure the real Moulin Rouge is rather tame compared to that seedy club OP posted). I think mostly everything goes on through the internet, so it's technically just a deal between consenting adults etc., no pimps involved (in theory)
>The vast majority of prostitutes aren't there by choice.
They wouldn't get any oppression points if, when asked why, they answer, "I chose this profession because it's exciting and lucrative."
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That seems to correlate with my findings, Ameribro! what's it like across the pond? do you also have streets with booted/fishnet-clad women at the door, who say hello when you walk past?
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t. snek guy
>I think mostly everything goes on through the internet
Very correct.
>so it's technically just a deal between consenting adults
This too.
>no pimps involved (in theory)
Correct again. Very often in practice too, girls just work on themselves in current year. At least in civilized world, that is.
If women have no rights or are enslaved then it would be they who seek you, they who beg your favor, and thus you spend zero time/money on them and still get your dick wet.
this. the state is fine with any economic activity THEY can be involved in. anything outside of their grasp of taxation is a no no
But the government can just legalize and regulate and tax prostitution, wtf?
Women who say they prostitute against their will are always drug addicts who trade sex for drugs. They are not being held hostage against their will by a pimp as you suggest. If they were, couldn't they just go to the police when they are let loose?
Think about it: If some guy was sucking dick on the street corner for a crack rock would you feel sorry for him? Would you buy the lie that he did it against his will? GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!
The state can regulate it but most people don't really care either way. I'm sure as hell not going to run out and get a bunch of hookers if prostitution is legalized tomorrow.
Based
Why thank you, I seek validation! Yeah, no idea about the last one, maybe you know more; it's just I get the impression there are quite a few foreign hookers (mainly Eastern European, Africans, and East Asian), and I believe they're often tied to some kind of ethnic gang (the Chinks walk around certain boulevards, spotted one there pretty much every time I walk past, but you actually have to follow them to another part of the city for the actual deed, because they live in certain apartment blocks like some colony)
>do you also have streets with booted/fishnet-clad women at the door, who say hello when you walk past?
A couple decades ago, yes. Now, no. Most big cities have a couple city blocks in which such hookers walk and smile and wave but they must be more discrete than in other countries. In some cities you must have a pretty good eye to detect who is "working" and who isn't.
Most girls working in strip clubs are usually available for outside contracts.
Until a few years ago it was really easy for women to advertise on the web (craigslist and others) and for men to find them, but it all got shut down because "we caught them pimping children." (Lies.)
It's really expensive here. Like $250 per hour, full service, for average appearance.