Was the Nazi party a Christian movement or anti Christian?
Christianity in the 3rd Reich
Xavier King
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Blake Wright
Sorry for shitty phone edit
Matthew Gonzalez
anti Catholic
could have reformed it into another confession, maybe Ariosophic, following the example of Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels
Camden Gutierrez
It was anti Christian. The swastika is an ornate version of the "G" rune which looks like the modern letter "X". The ornate G stood for the god Godan, also known as Odin.
Adrian Ross
It was Catholic but being Catholic didn't spare you, just like how being democrat doesn't protect you from the dems' antiwhite bs.
Nolan Baker
Is it Pagan?
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Jose Baker
jewish
Kayden Jones
Fuck christianity! It's not important.
Metaphysical freedom is the absolute foundation of european civiliazation.
Ryan Turner
>it was anti Christian
Wrong
Jack Barnes
No. Swastica derived from hindi culture. For what purpose are you lying and deceiving people?
Daniel Lopez
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Adrian Sanchez
Okay but Europeans invented the circle and the square. Don't appropriate our symbols.
Kevin Richardson
I just noticed he was stupid memeflag faggot. I hope you filthy larper commit suicide.
Liam Jackson
The Nazi Party tried to appeal to the Protestants in it's populace but ultimately went for an atheistic worship of the state. Compare this to almost all other fascist movements such as in Italy, Austria, Belgium, Hungary, Spain, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Croatia, Brazil, and Slovenia which all supported Catholicism.
Dylan Scott
Many Nazis were interested in esotericism and, to a leader extent, paganism. Look up Ariosophy for more on it.
However the Third Reich itself attempted to propagate "Positive Christianity" to the masses since they were Christian and it would've been neigh impossible to mass convert them.
Lincoln Rodriguez
*lesser extent
Kevin Bell
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Andrew Smith
it could not eradicate Christianity and Hitler maybe was more interested in practical aspects but Himmler was absolutely anti christian.
Goebbels was a great christian though, but he was in my opinion the only sane man in the Nazi political establishment, together with Speer and a few others.
Levi Harris
Someone post the himmler quote. Nazis were against all forms of faggotry including christfaggotry.
Samuel Sanchez
Streicher must have been behind this propaganda but still the Nazi movement wasn't that christian.
Evan Ross
"Positive Christianity" was to appease older, religious voters. Hitler considered himself a "cultural Christian", but didn't think the Pauline Epistles should be state supported, so he called it "Positive" to avoid criticism.
He was the reincarnation of Wodan, and he knew it.
Jacob Cox
OH WOW SO MANY CONFLICTING OPINIONS FROM HITLER EXPERTS.
LMAO FAG LIARS
>hitler and the nazi's were jews
Ayden Butler
> without a particular confession
Imagine not being able to attend your own churches because they are all run by faggots.
Luis Stewart
Not to mention Kirchenkampf.
Caleb Butler
> a bunch of literal who movements were catholic
Ok
Christian Green
The National Socialist Workers Party were Christians and Neo-pagans at the same time. Europeans have long abandoned the pagan hating elements of Christianity and we have come to respect and appreciate our pagan ancestors, whose strength and honour laid the foundations for our Christian nations. Most powerful Christian dynasties originate from powerful pagans.
Jordan Myers
Nice Raelian star
Xavier Myers
>literal who
>Mussolini, Dolfuss, and Franco
retards like you are the reason people shit on out country
Levi Perry
Inherently and, within the inner party explicitly, anti-Christian. People who say otherwise don't understand either Christian doctrine or National Socialism.
Jason Robinson
kys
Oliver Turner
Thoughts on this?
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Blake Brooks
Its kinda funny, maybe no germanfags but me, and its astonishing how you all know these things, all new to me, why?
I'll give you a basic rundown from my history knowledge that i've learned back then: (highest = the first i learned, and so on)
>dinosaurs
>democracy 101
>old time boys (der neandertaler)
>evolution of old time boy
>stone-time-wolfs.avi
>straight to roman empire
>ww1
>ww2
>Auschwitz
>trip to Auschwitz
>end of ww2 topic
>school ends
>only handled 1920-1943
>hitler never died for us
Hudson Thompson
Generally anti-Christian. Not all of them were, but it certainly wasn’t a Christian movement
Joseph Peterson
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Daniel Diaz
It was against Christianity, but they allied with them as they were also anti-Jews and anti-Communist,
But they did have Positive Christianity:
en.wikipedia.org
It basically took the Christian Values and mixed them with the nazi parties racial purity beliefs, and if you will read the page you will see that Hitler supported it.
Matthew Flores
>statements made to voters reveal politicians true feelings
Come on.
Caleb Wright
So Hitler was lying like a Jew? Are you fucking retarded?
Read the Reichstag speech from 23 March 1933 and his inauguration speech in Potsdam, then come back.
Owen Adams
Positive Christianity also denied the Jewish origins of Jesus and claimed he was Aryan.
Robert Jones
>Hitler uses marble from Asia minor to build his podium and studied Germanic mythology
He was Pagan
Jackson Brown
>It was against Christianity
>But they did have Positive Christianity:
What is Positive Christianity, if not Christianity?
Landon Stewart
Yes, maybe because Jesus was factually not jewish and Hitler understood that, you don't seem to though.
Kayden Nelson
I mean by being something that the Jews dont like ,he kinda did become that.
Isaac Torres
What about the pic though, this was build in the times of the German Empire.
Cooper Richardson
Wrong. The swastika was even used by the Merovingians after they converted to Christendom, which was not a sudden event but a transitional process. The Zierscheiben were used throughout the middle ages and in Early Christian artworks.
They just faded into obscurity and had their renaissance with the völkisch movement and the NSDAP.
Henry King
But in no way was Jesus an Aryan
Caleb Russell
>so Hitler was a lying jew?
No, he was a politicians and a generally anti-Christian germanicist.
Logan Evans
why not just read mein kampf? it makes it clear.
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officially it was a christian movement. right out of the man's mouth. fuck why is it so hard to read books? read!
John Hernandez
>circumcised Middle-Eastern Hebrew-speaking Semite worshiping Jehova
>not a Jew though
Just splitting hairs
Ayden Wright
This is true. Everyone take a closer look at Thor's "belt"
Anthony Hughes
>the Nazi movement wasn't that christian.
Yeah, but the German people were 95% Christian and they elected Hitler, so your point is pretty useless.
In addition, the Catholic Center Party (Zentrum) allowed Hitler to come to power by voting for his "Ermächtigungsgesetz".
Owen Bell
personal feelings that he didn't make public are irrelevant to the movement itself. if he had any anti-christian feelings he didn't make them public for a reason, and instead chose to make it a christian movement, explicitly. you should read the primary source material before coming to threads like this and speaking as if you're educated, it's embarrassing.
Jaxon Butler
Good goy.
Lucas Perry
>The Zierscheiben were used throughout the middle ages and in Early Christian artworks.
show us this please
Luis Thomas
It was anti-Christian, but only very subtly so, as to not upset the vast majority of right-wing Germans and international sympathizers that were still Christian.
Thomas Carter
>Hitler understood Jesus was not jewish
This is false. Many were working behind the scenes to depose christianity as a jewish hoax
Ian Cruz
Positive Christianity is heretical.
Jordan Williams
I believe what Hitler is saying and the authors interpretation are entirely different. Hitler was correct in identifying the Volkisch movement as sappy and ineffective towards achieving a German state, but that does not mean the expressed values of his mission were not anti-Christian.
I think this only demonstrates that Hitler's mission in Mein Kamph was entirely too cerebral for the voters to understand, and that he may have misread the effect he had on people. Apotheosis does not require a personal consent, it comes from the masses who project a pattern of reality from their culture that has existed for centuries onto a man that matches that pattern.
Germany needed paganism again because the Enlightenment and Christianity had failed them, so they regressed to the most powerful structure their culture produced, Wodan.
Adam Rodriguez
>>so Hitler was a lying jew?
That's not what I said, learn to quote.
>No, he was a politicians and a generally anti-Christian germanicist.
Nice dystoria., but your narrative is contrived. Hitler cannot be honourable if he lies in public. Where does that come from anyway?
Isaiah Bennett
>Hitler didn't destroy Pagan structures if he really thought jesus was of his kin he would have
Blake Wright
They practiced Nordic Paganism.
They've written books at length on the subject of Nazi occultism.
Caleb Sanchez
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Carson Long
>the beliefs of the leaders of the movement are irrelevant to the movement
Incoherent.
Logan Martin
Go to the wiki article on the Black Sun.
I can confirm that its accurate, since I read "Deutsche Geschichte Band 1 - Vom Frankenreich zum Deutschen Reich" by Heinrich Pleticha.
Even Friedrich II. Barbarossa used it as his symbol.
Daniel Lopez
Yes. Yes, he was.