Basically, fertility doctors are each having up to 80, 200, or sometimes 600 kids - by secretly using their own sperm when their female clients want artificial insemination with either a "random" or selected sperm donor.
What does Yas Forums think about this?
>HURR DURR I DON'T CARE These motherfuckers are beating you in the game of life. Even if you have 5 kids, these guys are having 70, 80, 200 or more. So their genes stand a better chance of survival than yours.
Dr Cecil Jacobson, from Utah, US: >Cecil Byran Jacobson (born October 2, 1936) is an American former fertility doctor who used his own sperm to impregnate his patients without informing them. >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Jacobson Dr Jan Karbaat, from the Netherlands: >Jan Karbaat, who is suspected of fathering up to 200 of his patients’ children >theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jul/15/the-man-who-may-have-secretly-fathered-200-children Dr Betold Wiesner, from Austria/Britain: >Dr Bertold Paul Wiesner FRSE (1901–1972) was an Austrian Jewish physiologist noted... for being biological father to upwards of 600 offspring by anonymously donating sperm used by his wife the obstetrician Mary Barton to perform artificial insemination on women at her private practice in the Harley Street area of London >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertold_Wiesner Dr Bernard Barwin, from Canada: >Bernard Norman Barwin was a general practitioner and medical professor... Barwin used his own sperm when inseminating his patients >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Norman_Barwin Dr Kim McMorries, from Texas, US: >Her biological father was not a sperm donor in California, as she had been told — Dr. McMorries was. >nytimes.com/2019/08/21/health/sperm-donors-fraud-doctors.html Dr Donald Cline, from Indiana, US: >[A] doctor, Donald Cline... without ever telling his patients, Cline had used his own sperm to impregnate women who came to him for artificial insemination. >theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/04/fertility-doctor-donald-cline-secret-children/583249/ Dr Paul Jones, from Colorado, US: >A Colorado fertility doctor has been accused of using his own sperm for women who came to his clinic seeking an anonymous sperm donor. >About six families are suing Dr Paul Jones >bioedge.org/bioethics/another-case-of-fertility-fraud-this-time-in-colorado/13311
No shit that was the premise of a Law and Order SVU. You’re probably too young to know that show. But all of the stories are fictionalization of true events
Grayson Rodriguez
>600 fatherless children Hahahahahahahahahhaha what a fucking short sighted plan Now all of them will waste their lives on this personal vendetta against their father Good job
Henry Sanders
>secretly using their own sperm when their female clients want artificial insemination with either a "random" or selected sperm donor. BASED
Evan Lewis
a lot of these are jews.
Hudson Thomas
The gamergate episode was da bomb. Ice t is such a great actor mane.
Ian Ross
I've heard of it.
Anyway, what's the solution? Emulate these doctors? Do what they've done? Or try and stop this from happening? Get law enforcement into every single fertility clinic, doing DNA checks on every sample as it's used?
Can't just ignore it, these guys are beating us.
Nah. Even if half of them were total failures (and I doubt it would be that high), I guarantee that a significant proportion would still manage to spread their genes.
Mate, you do realise what you're saying is the equivalent of a man fucking your wife and you saying "BASED"?
These people are BEATING YOU in getting their genes into the gene pool.
So my question to Yas Forums is, what's the solution? Emulate them, or put law enforcement into every fertility clinic so that this can't happen?
Connor Taylor
A couple of them are, but that's irrelevant. Whether they're Indian or Russian or Catholic or Muslim it doesn't matter, what matters is that they're spreading their genes more than you are. They are beating you in the game of life, which is all about spreading genes.
Carter Roberts
Most people who do this are jews because they are obsessed with their genes to a degree that makes them do things that only mentally disturbed persons would do. I would either ban the practice or enforce a test being done after birth by a third party (and draconian punishment if something's found) to make sure this doesn't happen too much.
Adam Ward
>These people are BEATING YOU in getting their genes into the gene pool. That's the weakest argument of them all, who gives a fuck. The Darwinian game of life doesn't even fucking exist and to what end do you even take part in it? The true master of the universe and all of history is god and his plan (and the purpose we all can play in that) is what matters.
Liam Hughes
I chose the wrong profession Sterile losers cry more
Isaac Hall
>jews Ethnicity is irrelevant, what matters is that they're beating you. >ban the practice What I'm saying is that, if you want to stop it, there needs to be law enforcement inside every single fertility clinic, observing and checking every sperm sample, to make sure this doesn't happen.
You can't simply outlaw it. Even with the death penalty, doctors will still do it.
Every single man has a built-in instinct to spread our sperm as much as possible. Which is why even a punishment of death would not deter people from doing this. If you want to stop it, prevention is the only way of doing so.
>The Darwinian game of life doesn't even fucking exist Wow, you never turned up for biology classes at school, did you?
>I chose the wrong profession Aye >Sterile losers cry more I'm not sterile, and your sterility is irrelevant - what's relevant is that these people are BEATING YOU
Even if you had 5 kids, even if you had 10 kids, these guys are having 70, 100, 200 kids.
And sure you could say "those kids will grow up without a father" but even if only HALF of those kids manage to spread their genes, that's still way more than the number of your kids that will spread their genes.
Easton Powell
Bump
Hudson Jenkins
Attempted bump again
Hunter Campbell
If you're an atheist, sure this probably seems like a life goal for you meaningless life. For anyone else, this is just a dumb power-trip which neither brings any fruit nor accomplishes anything
If this excites you, youre pathetic
Evan Parker
what?why would it be life goal for atheists?atheists have much less children than religious people.
Jose White
Isn't it ultimately the mothers' fault? They decided to have fatherless children, the doctors just donated their sperm.
Elijah Wood
Are you really too stupid to understand basic biology?
Yeah, religion is completely irrelevant when it comes to questions of REALITY and FACT, but obviously the Pole is too stupid to understand this.
But the point is, even if half those kids do badly in life due to not having fathers, I'm sure that at least SOME of them will succeed.
So what about YOU then, you dumb cunt. Are you a fertility doctor doing this? If not, they're beating you.
Mate, you do realise what you're saying is the equivalent of a man fucking your wife and you saying "based"?
It's from the internet, I didn't make it you stupid cunt.
Eli Martin
Hard to beat someone at a game they're not even playing. I'm happy to have two kids. If someone has more then good for them (if they're white).
Daniel Sanchez
Is your wife taking fertility treatments or something paki?
Thomas Davis
>I'm happy for a man to fuck my wife and have 10 kids with her, while I only have 2.
No. I'm just telling you facts and you're too stupid to understand them.
Nicholas Green
>I'm happy for a man to fuck my wife and have 10 kids with her, while I only have 2 I see reading comprehension and basic human biology aren't your strong points.
So you have to invent fictions and stick your head in the sand to ignore the fact that a guy may as well be fucking your wife and making 100 kids with her, while you only made 2.
Carson Hughes
A doctor was jailed for this here in this shithole.
Gabriel Stewart
>These motherfuckers are beating you in the game of life. Long term? Doubt it. This is the ultimate r-strategy move. Half the kids will be male, so 90% of them will be castrated as transsexuals, the other half will grow up to be feminist and they'll have to breed via the same method.
Zachary Reed
Not surprised because it's clearly insanely common. Which is no surprise. If you were in that position, you'd do the same thing, wouldn't you? Any guy would, because it's a natural instinct.
I'm wondering whether it's worth trying to emulate (i.e. try and become a doctor and do the same thing) or, if not, the only way to stop it would be to have law enforcement inside every fertility clinics, checking every sample and supervising every artificial insemination, to make sure that the woman is getting the sample that she thinks she's getting.
Hudson Gomez
Couldnt this accidently result in incest? Like if he had 200 children, theyre all from the same sperm bank so theyre going to be around the same area, and lets say theyre 100 girls and 100 boys. Theres a good chance of one of them fucking an other.
Evan Long
What about the two doctors from different European countries who purposely impregnated white women with black babies after asking for semen of white men? Does anyone have the two sources? It happened a long time ago.
Asher Jones
>If you were in that position, you'd do the same thing, wouldn't you? I probably would only do it selectively, if the females were attractive and my qualities passed their demands. However, there are risks. For one, donors have been forced to pay alimony in many countries...
Grayson Rodriguez
So? Maybe those kids will inherit at least some intelligence. I am sure if the doctor asked dome of these patients, they will accept his offer. What are the odds of finding a specialist in a pool of random donors?
Eli Nguyen
ALL OF THEM WERE JEWS
Isaac Rogers
They're low quality though because only women who can't find proper partners have his kids
Jonathan Thompson
Ghengis Khan has beat us all
Connor Scott
Shouldn't they be libel for child payments? I thought a few years ago some dykes took some dude to court and he had to pay for the kid?
Adam Ross
>This is the ultimate r-strategy move Yes, but it might well be very effective.
>90% of them will be castrated as transsexuals, the other half will grow up to be feminist and they'll have to breed via the same method. I doubt it. Even if some of the sons kill themselves or whatever, many will still survive.
Pic related are two kids of a doctor in the Netherlands who did this (while giving the woman the impression that he was going to find a donor who wasn't him).
And the son seems surprisingly chipper, in fact he says in that article he wants to be a sperm donor himself. So then he'll get his genes into tons of kids. Etc.
Also, one of the doctors, Dr Cecil Jacobson, had a family of 8 kids with his wife, as well as having an estimated 75 kids through his clients. So he's following both r and K strategies.
Good for them. There are no rules when it comes to evolution. Survival of the fittest by any means. The idea of ethics is entirely a human construct. Baby eagles fight to the death in the nest and only 1 lives, usually the first one to hatch because it has a slight size and weight advantage.
Asher Kelly
Yeah that's true and many of the articles talking about it raise that point.
But if you had clients from a wide area then you could probably avoid that problem - or even just the sheer numbers of kids you have could get around that problem. If you have 70 - 200 kids with this method, even if half of them committed incest (I doubt it would be that high), there's a lot of them that wouldn't.
That sounds fucked up, haven't heard about that.
But I'm just talking about doctors being able to have dozens/hundreds of THEIR OWN kids. What should we do about this? Should we try and do the same as they did? Or try and stop it from happening by putting law enforcement into every fertility clinic?
>alimony >child payments Hardly very important. The prime driving motivation of any man is to put his sperm into as many high quality females as possible. If they eventually catch you and you have to pay alimony, it doesn't really matter that much.
>So? So they're beating you. If they manage to have 70 - 200 kids this way, and you only have up to 5 kids if you're very lucky, then their genes have a survival chance over yours.
>Maybe those kids will inherit at least some intelligence. All the more reason why those genes will stand a chance.
So what should we do? Emulate these doctors and do what they did? Or try and stop it by putting law enforcement in every fertility clinic?
Only a couple of the ones I listed appear to be Jews, but ethnicity is irrelevant anyway. They're still beating you, no matter what their ethnicity is.
So what's the response? Copy what they did, or try and stop the practice? Can't just ignore it because their genes will proliferate and yours will have more competition in future generations.
Nathan Cox
Judaism is matriliniar you retard. Did they cut your dick or your brain?
Andrew Lewis
I don’t understand your obsession with “beating” people It’s funny cause niggers and spics have the exact same mentally of have 15 kids maybe one will be good
Nathaniel Ramirez
one molecule rule you retarded piece of shit. fuck nazis and fuck tolerance faggots like hitler
Angel Walker
Not necessarily. In some of these cases, the women are picking SPECIFIC donors from a catalogue, selecting what they think are good genes, but the doctor dupes them and uses his own sperm. The following is talking about pic related, a daughter of one of these doctors:
>Her biological father was not a sperm donor in California, as she had been told — Dr. McMorries was. archive.is/YWlJE
In any case, the point is that these people are getting tons of their genes into the gene pool.
Remember, your job as an organism is to spread your genes. Yes preferably with the highest quality mates, but also preferably with as many mates as possible, if you can (this is why Genghis Khan had tons of kids with tons of women, Mao Zedong had a lot too, etc.).
These doctors could be doing better than you. In a couple of generations' time, their genes could be alive and well, and yours could be dead. In that event, they would have beaten you.
So I'm saying, should we copy these doctors and do what they did, or try and stop it by having cops in fertility clinics?
>These motherfuckers are beating you in the game of life They can't beat me when I don't play. Checkmate natalists.
Carson Richardson
Yeah you're right, but I'm saying, should we copy these doctors? Or try and stop this practice by putting cops in fertility clinics?
Can't just ignore it, because these doctors are evolutionarily beating the rest of us.
On the one hand you could say: >Nah I will stick to making something of myself without resorting to this fertility shit, because I think I can get HIGHER QUALITY FEMALES by pursuing this strategy Or on the other you could say: >I will become a fertility doctor and do what they did, what a great strategy Or the stupid thing to say would be: >I'm going to pretend it doesn't affect me
Charles Fisher
>I don’t understand your obsession with “beating” people That's literally what life is, as this guy explained: >They can't beat me when I don't play I'm going to quote Guy Ritchie, because I saw him say this the other day:
>Don't hate the game. Love the game, 'cause you're in it mate. So, own the game. Accept the rules. And move on into the rules. 2:20 here: youtube.com/watch?v=rd3yeX1-SaM
The point is that YOU'RE IN THE GAME WHETHER YOU ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
If you don't have kids then you lose the game of life, simple as that.
and they have no control where there genetics go, how is he going to raise his daughters right or raise his sons to be men that choose good breeding partners? Or even make sure they are educated and not some druggie loser that goes to prison.
Of course he is technically a father to more children but quality over quantity. But if he raised a few of his own with his wife then this is based in a way if you ignore what i mentioned above and the fact he will be shunned and vilified for this
atypical situations like this give rise to atypical offspring (AKA fuckups)
Oliver Bell
Tfw JF was right but he skipped a step.
Mason Howard
What a whore
Elijah Richardson
>implying they don’t benefit humanity in the long run by spreading their sneaky fucker dna
Daniel Foster
I'm still fucking butthurt about the fact that that faggot Himmler let a FUCKING ROTHSCHILD go for shekels.
Anthony Cox
>But if he raised a few of his own with his wife then this is based in a way if you ignore what i mentioned above and the fact he will be shunned and vilified for this One of the doctors, Dr Cecil Jacobson, had a family of 8 kids with his wife, as well as having an estimated 75 kids through his clients.
>and they have no control where there genetics go, how is he going to raise his daughters right or raise his sons to be men that choose good breeding partners? Or even make sure they are educated and not some druggie loser that goes to prison. That's true, but I reckon many of them could turn out well, especially since they will have mothers who obviously care about having kids and being good parents - otherwise they wouldn't make the effort of getting a sperm donor. See two kids of the Dutch doctor who did this here: Pic related, the dude, is another child of this same doctor. He looks pretty normal. Source: archive.is/YWlJE
You're missing the point. These guys are beating you.
So should we copy them and do the same, or should we try and stop this practice?
I don't give a fuck about the benefit to humanity, I care about MY genes, as does everyone else.
And I'm saying, should we copy these doctors and follow the same strategy? Or be an honest family man instead? Arguably being an honest family man could get you a higher quality woman, and you would have more say over raising the kids, but can you really beat the sheer numbers of kids that these doctors are having?
