Giving birth costs up to 10k USD in America and Japan

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why are so many people advocating for m4a. wouldn't that raise our taxes a lot? im dumb so please dont bully :)

So the Doctors and Nurses don't get paid?

BASED

grandma was mennonite and had 12 fucking children at home. white woman like that dont exist any more

>imagine not having money
lol, eurobrokes

>paying a doctor to give birth, and losing your foreskin

it's pretty annoying when people call universal healthcare "free". it's free for a select few, but most people are paying for it in their taxes.

>free
>55% tax rate

I am psychologically incapable of understanding how there are entire nations of people who will work for an hour, get paid for 25 minutes of it, and think that’s fine. Private health insurance is not particularly expensive here or in Switzerland and it’s usually far better than doled-our government care like the NHS with their 3rd world cancer survival rates

They're retarded and think there aren't more NEETs here than the entire populations of their countries. Pair this with poor people and illegals accessing medical/social services. At the end of the day the largest working class of people is middle class, who will pay the bulk majority of the taxes to fund MC4A, but then continue to babble about corporations and entrepreneurs etc etc etc.

>the initial pricing you get from the hospital is how much must be paid
Stupid foreign faggot continues showing how retarded he is. Post more me memeflag!

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Get paid by state with people's taxes.

the Jews don't want superior races to reproduce

rich people paid for you to be born.

>Japan
All three of the kids I had there were almost completely covered by the national health insurance.

They do where I live, loads of Amish and Mennonite people here, well, 30 minutes East.

My wife is due in a couple months with twins and you're telling me I need TWENTY grand?!?! WTF is my insurance for???

Damn the niggers must be filthy rich then

It’s because their cost of living to average wage ratio is much better than in the US.

>It doesn't cost $10k because the bill is being footed by someone else, who in turn makes their money back over time by overcharging you in small increments

How does it feel to be this dumb? People like you are why phone contract plans are so popular.

>"omg new iPhone only $350 if I sign up with Sprint!!! Never mind that the contract is priced in a way that they'll make their money back with interest on top of the profit they'd already make, plus keep me locked in to a shit service!!!"

Home births are better and healthier.

>average family health insurance in Burgerland is $9999 per annum
AHAHAHAHAHA

only to whites and legals.

niggers and illegals and muslims populate like rats because the more spawn they produce the more gibs they get.

this only true if completely worthless like a nigger or illegal. if you so much as make like $20k or some very low number by actually working, you lose like $30k in benefits for having the gall to try to provide for yourself.

so the people who pay in to the system get charged thousands to have a kid and spend thousands to raise each one.

leeches have kids for free and GET PAID thousands for each one.

this is why I want an American Hitler

It's not free, they pay taxes.

No its not we pay for it every pay with our taxes you fucking retard

Nothing is ever free, dummies. You're probably paying MORE over your lifetime.

It usually costs around 4-5k because it’s not covered by insurance as it’s not ilness.
But the gov gives you around 4K to cover up all the expenses anyway.

>only now just learning America is a 3rd world shithole
Wew lad

forget how much it actually costs in japan but 10K USD is an exaggeration. I think it’s around 2-3.
IVF is expensive though so you should dick the youngest girls possible to save money by taking advantage of their high fertility, they’ll be out of the hospital faster too thus saving you even more coin

How much is a double abortion?

Not really. Denmark for example is a very expensive country, and with their insane tax rate the average take home pay is around $28,000, basically the same as a 20 year old American

Have a home birth

So it's not free then.

ya lots of them here in my town, for some reason they all decided to live in florida, guess they were tired of that indiana weather. A little weird but great people and great entrepreneurs.

This is beyond true.

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You receive 42man yen from your local government to cover the cost.

>IVF is expensive though
Just bring your wife to India kek. They even have white ova.

I’ll pay you to abort yourself twice

There's a lot of Amish in Mexico as well. Some like it hot.

Me fuck girl like nigger

she pay I leave

move on next grill pump dump leave repeat. Thank me for my service Abe kun

did this start recently?
My memory is hazy because of all the coofing

That's because it doesn't happen anywhere and you're a retard who never earned above minimum wage so you don't understand how progressive taxation works.

Most people have insurance through their employer. Even if a family paid as much as 10,000, that would be significantly less than what’s paid with the 52% tax rate standard in many European countries

This, we could've had all the free education and healthcare but they wanted welfare and niggers.
Sad.

why does it cost 10k just to stay in a room

Please forward the funds.

Free for us Blacks. My baby gave birth to our 10th child.

I have “good insurance “ and still paid 14k out of pocket for my last kid, 2k for the one before him, my last kid the drs wanted weekly ultrasounds and all kind of extra tests because they thought something was wrong, they thought he was too small, he was born perfect and 9lbs 10oz, the drs are retarded and it cost me 12k extra dollars to pay for them being idiots, then they have the nerve to tell me better safe than sorry, to cap it all off I had a actual verbal fight with the kike dr about circumcision, he was very upset I wouldn’t give up my sons forskin. Seriously, they actually sent people back into the room at least 3 times to try and talk us into it, including once in the middle of the night where the nurse just started to take him, that’s when I really lost my shit on them.

only for illegals and nogs, the rest of us have to pay.

yep. i couldnt get financial aid for college because i make "too much"

What do you mean? Just call a midwife and get a safe birth for 50 bucks

High quality room, taxes included.

I broke my jaw in a car accident while abroad. I went to a maxillofacial surgeon in italy to have it repaired (needed displacement and fixture) i ended up paying 5k all costs included and i was a non citizen. In america it would cost me 20k. Burgers like to hang their hat on the tax argument meanwhile the jews rob them blind with overpriced everything.

I need a nice subservient amish girl in my life.

I make a little over 20.

>it doesn’t happen anywhere
>progressive taxation

Average tax rate in Sweden is over 50%. Average in Denmark is almost 50%. I’m not talking about the rate highest bracket for wealthy people, I’m talking about typical standards for average earners.

Really? Cost us about $3000 here.

It should cost 100k if you're a nigger

The Jews don’t want you to know about midwives. They deliver the baby at home cheaply and peacefully not in a diseased ridden toxic hospital that will plunge you into generational debt.

Japan your economy will be destroyed in apocalyptic proportions since it's basically printing money to survive and keep companies afloat
I suggest you all to buy bitcoin or gold or anything the government can't steal from you

We love the Jews here in America and would give our lives for them. Take your anti-semitism elsewhere.

>I have “good insurance “ and still paid 14k out of pocket for my last kid, 2k for the one before him,

Then you don't have good insurance in any sense unless you were dumb enough to some out-of-network hospital or something.

You pay federal and provincial taxes, rated by how much you earn. There are little subsidies or write offs. 35,000,000 people live in your country. That's the population of New York and New Jersey in contrast.

>15% on the first $48,535 of taxable income, plus 20.5% on the next $48,534 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $48,535 up to $97,069), plus 26% on the next $53,404 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $97,069 up to $150,473), plus 29% on the next $63,895 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $150,473 up to $214,368), plus 33% of taxable income over $214,368.

Imagine living in a place where Kevin O'Leary only pays a 33% tax margin. Awful.

Only if you give birth in a hospital.

You have to be Amish to marry an Amish girl. They wouldn't prevent your conversion if you were actually serious. They could always use another pair of hands.

Bring a knife next time pussy.
Actually next time home birth

Fucking retarded that I pay 29% earning $65k and people making $150k only pay 33%

I didn’t say I’d pay you in money.
I have a big cardboard box full of hentai mangas that I bought at the used book store years back, you want those?
some of the pages are stuck together but they were like that when I got them

And then countries want to stop births at home with midwifes and make it illegal.
The most natural thing in the world can suddently cost thousands of USD with illegal alternatives.
Alternatives are deemed unsafe because your average woman is so fucking weak compared to their ancestors that she just doesn't have the strenght to do it without massive amounts of drugs and assistance.
Clown world indeed.

It’s been around for a long time.
shoken-kenpo.or.jp/eng/member/02_life/203/20301.html

now show us your tax rate and how much net pay you get you retarded faggot.

you won't bc you're a nigger infested shithole larping as 'muh progressive nayshun'

They couldn't pay it anyways.

This is absolute bullshit.

My wife brought 2 beautiful babies into the world in December. One suffered from Transient Neonatal Tachypnea on Delivery and was briefly apneic. The OBGYN, Delivery room and nursing services all came to around $6,000. The baby that had breathing problems rang up an additional $14,000 in NICU charges. Our Insurance (Blue Cross and Blue Shield) Covered every service we received 100% except for a $250 copayment.

Mind you, this was at one of the Premier Children's Hospitals in the world. Stop spreading bullshit to discourage goyim from starting families, you filthy fucking memeflagging kike.

Have Children. Raise them right. Fix this mess.

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Free = we pay insanely high taxes

He spends $1,000+ a day on FOOD as well. Imagine a person like him not having to pay more... shameful.

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my mom did her first birth at the hospital and the next 2 at home. people look bewildered when you tell them you weren't born in a hospital, like you were born in a barn or something

>i paid 10k+ out of pocket to have a kid
>the doctors are retarded
trumpcucks are truly brainwashed. i have union insurance and we didnt pay a dime for either kid, even with one of them being a C-section + 4 days in the hospital. enjoy your debt faggot.

>, including once in the middle of the night where the nurse just started to take him, that’s when I really lost my shit on them
you showed a lot of restraint, if that had happened to me I would be in jail
shit I would probably be in supermax

Not so great for first timers. You don't wan't to deal with needing a c-section innawoods.

Here's mine. This doesn't include town, property, school, trash and water taxes though. That's another 32k-yr.

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Only if you're white. In case you haven't noticed they don't want us breeding

We were considering midwifery, but chose for a hospital when we found out we were having multiples. To this day I thank Jesus that we did, and that we chose the hospital that we did. During delivery things went south, the hospital had a team of over a dozen NICU physicians and nurses scrubbed in and ready to go, and they were incredible. If we opted for midwifery, my little girl wouldn't be here today.

You're in the pay half of everything club eh, how's that?

I don't get how they can take half ur money at that level or even much lower I think. It's disgusting. All that money goes to pay for infinity niggers

What is your career or are you a cryptofag?

3 kids and counting and max I paid was for first kid at ATL hospital due to wife's insistence she give birth there, cost was 5k, I paid cash early and jewed them down to 3k with taxes. Other times were at a midwifery and cost was 1.5k to 2.5k (she wanted a water birth) pay cash and get a 20% discount. Water birth was worst birth. Used scenar last birth and it was outstanding. 1hr, no tearing, more energy after birth. Get smart and tell her to go to a mid wife. If she is brave enough home births are free. Prenatal and postnatal is 1k at ATL, 500 or 250 at midwife.

Fucking lmao.

ya but that means i cant post on pol anymore so nvm

You're a disappointment.

Burguers have 40-50% of their salary in taxes and still talk shit about health care costs, like if they were paying 5-10% in taxes.
Of all the flags in Yas Forums burguers are the most obtuse and stupid there are.

I thought it was fucked up when they charged me 200 euros for this shite

There are a lot of Appalachian white trash out here, the majority goes to paying their medicaid (free government insurance) and food stamps, which I'm happy to pay. The FEDERAL withholdings go to niggers in other states, and illegals all over the country. I don't like paying into a system that is so easily exploited, but that's the price you (me) pay to live free and Chase your dreams.

I own a liquor shop and tenant properties.

Well I mean he's Canadian, we all spend a huge portion of our income on food.

Kevin O'Leary makes $1,000 a minute...

I think it's awful he's taxed so little considering the bulk majority of Canadians will never have a taste of what he eats on the daily.

You'd give up home grown virgin pussy and clean wholesome food/lifestyle to shitpost here? Damn.

Most Midwiferys are next to major hospitals for just such a problem but glad it worked for you.

The insurance company wouldn’t cover the ultrasounds beyond the normal ones, and when you have one a fucking week plus all the other tests it adds up, I have blue cross, I’m a fireman we get paid shit but the insurance is pretty good for everything else, it just fucked me on this. I did end up calling and renegotiating with both insurance and the hospital and paid far less but it was a fight.

My friend had a kid 3 years ago.
Total bill was 60k
He and his wife are state/local employees (high school teachers).
They paid $25 out of pocket.
Get a real job or get a job with good health insurance