You don't own any private property, yet you fight for the interests of those who do. Care to explain why?

>Doesn't own enough land to pay his taxes with plenty of profit leftover
NGMI

Because it's not about what I want, but about what is right.

Business owners also pay property tax though. According to your logic private property only exists in communist or fascist countries

I’m paying off my mortgage this month. It’s mine. I actually have tenants in it that are paying me rent right now. It’s awesome. KYS commie.

You do with taxes retard

We have no property tax in South Carolina, bong.

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Surplus value doesn't exist, the marginal value theory destroyed it (value is subjective)
Everything in your picture is private property
The economic calculation problem further destroyed any form of statism as it prived there is essential information for economy that is only possible with capitalism

>No it isn't retardo. You're literally in a long term land lease contract with the government
First of all it isn't a contract because I never signed anything with the state agreeing with terms
Second of all, the possibility of the State stealing your property and robbing you money for it just goes to show how the State is anti-private property,antihuman, antirationality and antilife

>the Queen technically owns all the land in the UK
NAH THATS BULSHIT WE STILL HAVE OUR CLAIMS ROYAL FAMILY SOON DED.

Except you can't have your home taken away from you for unpaid council tax, which is much lower than America's property tax. An American who takes out a mortgage in his early 30s can easily pay the full value of his home in property tax throughout his life, at the risk of having it repossessed for non payment. The idea they respect private property in that country is the greatest lie they ever told the world.

So what happens if you don't continue to pay the government tithe on it? You get to keep it right?

>you don’t own any private property
Lmao. Shows what you know you broke favela monkey.

Why are commies so against private investment?

The queen doesn't own shit, the state took it from it's former owners by genocide and violence, therefore it's an illegitimate property and by private laws that have existed in the past, the State mafia can be subjected to any penalities the population wants to as the State doesn't agree with subjecting itself to a private tribunal to be sentenced for it's crimes (armed robbery, fraud, economic terrorism, psychological warfare, warmongering, etc)

>You don't own any private property,
Yes, I do.

Let me ask, what do you do for work? What do you produce? What value does it have?

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Once business is the intent of the state, failure to produce, or overproduction, is a crime against state.
>Ipso, personal variations of output are disallowed, bad days are now possible crimes against the nation.
>Ipso, the difference between messing up and traitorous behavior becomes unclear.
>Ipso, advancement is rare from lack of willingness to risk, and intentionally discouraged for concern of upsetting the balance.

Do you understand how a mortgage works? If you have one, its not your house, so its not personal/private property. Youre leasing the house from the bank with a buyout option to make it private property when you are done paying off interest.

Civil law jurisdictions generally divide into corporeal things into similar categories of moveables and immoveables.
>t. Louisiana where civil law matters

We have no property tax, mutt.

We pay a much lower council tax but that pays for someone to collect our bins, streetlights, street sweepers etc. And you can't get your PROPERTY taken away from you for not paying it.

Who says I don't own private property?

Why communists try to differentiate between personal and private property? This distinction doesn't even make sense

Their brains arent big enough to earn money efficiently and S E E T H E with envy for those who can.

So how should it be? Anybody can live wherever they want? Boy that sure sounds nice, totally not a dystopia of chaos and crime

>implying they are exempt from property tax once they finish paying off their mortgage
lel

Yes comrade! After the glorious revolution I will be a psychologist in a reeducation camp. How about you?

Because I'm not a commie.

We know that Jews run the show, user. We don't own anything. You don't mean for us to identify Jews as masters though. You mean for us to kill white gentiles who are in the way of the Jews.

I don't consider the personal/private property distinction valid.

Mortgages and property tax aren't the same thing. You specified mortgages and repossession.

>I pick my ideology based purely on what is of advantage right now to me and not what benefits society in a longer and wider context
I would be angry if it wasn't 1 post by this ID

Because they want to justify takeover of property, by force if necessary. But if they can try to convince people what they own is not personal, it’s easy to justify seizure of their property

If the gov owns land and everything which that land gave birth to, are we then government property?

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I mean my land does belong to the queen ultimately.

learn to read leaf
I mentioned a mortgage at 30 because if an American reaches his life expectancy from that point he will likely pay the full value (maybe even more) of the house in property tax alone on top of mortgage.
There is no home ownership when you are eternally indebted to your government and at the risk of having it repossessed for non payment.

Are you asking me if I’m against property taxes? Yeah I am.

>I can rent my house
>I can invest my money
>I can sell the fruit of my garden
Kys commie shit. Lula will gonback to puson and die there

What happens if you don’t pay your income tax?

Let us suppose that "A" has a bakery. He hires a number of workers, buys the best raw materials, and produces the finest mince pies in town. His costs, including the interest on the money he has borrowed, the rent of the land he uses, and all of the other factors that enter into the equation, make it possible for him to produce these pies and deliver them to your door for 40. He charges 50
Marx would insist that he should sell at a figure which excludes interest. But he may pay himself a salary for his pains. Marx in Das Kapital recognizes the validity of managerial work, contrary to popular belief, and wishes it to be paid for at a modicum. Marx will not recognize a profit as a legitimate part of the economic cycle
So in the above case, he would hold that the man who has run the risk, borrowed the money, bears the responsibility, manages the enterprise and owns the tools, should receive only a salary and no more. Let us concentrate on the 50 mince pie. At this price, the owner and manager can pay himself a salary and in addition can accrue a profit if business is brisk
Now, let us consider "B." "B" also has a bakery. He hires the same number of workers as "A," buys the best raw materials, and produces the finest mud pies in town. His costs, the interest on the money he has borrowed, the rent of the land he uses, and all of the other factors that enter into the equation make it possible for him to produce these mud pies and deliver them to your door for exactly the same price as the mince pies of his competitor, "A." Now whether "B" insists on a profit or not, the fact of the matter is that it is almost inconceivable to imagine a going business in mud pies
But, if Smith, Ricardo, and Marx are correct, then the product of "A's" factory, which costs 40¢ to produce, must be valued at precisely the value of the product of "B's" factory, since this product, also, costs just 40 to produce

Yes.
As a member of the ruling class (the only class) the government is also under your control. Thus you are property of yourself.

Yes a fascist economy is the only true expression of man's ownership of his home, you're making his point for him.

Because they want to tell you how productive you're allowed to be with your efforts and imagination, because they lack both.

>As a member of the ruling class (the only class) the government is also under your control
It isn't, the government is under the rule of a plutocracy and it's politicians, as the State is designed to create this situation

>Thus you are property of yourself
Yes, people have self ownership, which means the State having taxes is a clear antihuman organization as it's saying humans are property of the State

>the government is also under your control.
Except in practice you're actually just under the control of the popular mood of the majority. And that means if you're unlikable for some reason, or just no able to produce your message in the same way, you're not actually the government of anything.

You can have shit like furniture and electronics taken away and your credit score ruined but not your home.
Unless it's a criminal case then you go to prison but even then you're still allowed to keep the house.

>no argument
nice

>Yes a fascist economy is the only true expression of man's ownership of his home
no such thing as true expression of man's ownership, there is only one, he owns his home and has to pay nothing for it compulsorily
An example here in brazil is an anarchist dude that went to live in a cave, and even then the State tried to take it away from him
Thankfully information is easily accesible nowadays so we fought the satan creation called State, and he enjoys kiving without paying taxes, while preserving his private property

i am a hobby blackssmith, i am able to produce a knife from scrap metal to finished product,
literaly private propperty,
i also own some stocks
literaly private propperty.

I own private property just like any good citizen should. Why would you want the incompetent state to control it all?

The world is gonna hurt you tons. All of this started from effectively anarchy. Good luck.

>And that means if you're unlikable for some reason, or just no able to produce your message in the same way, you're not actually the government of anything
And the State is designed to let politicians that please other politicians in power, so it's designed to have corruption

> Im gay
hi gay,
i am user

actual based, nazis had some similiar laws for german farmers

Everything is owned by the state in a Socialist society so personal property wouldn't exist as anything personal would be handed out from the state

Notice how one of those has an enforced border and the other does not.

Politicians pleasing each other doesn't prove corruption, only a possible disconnect between the population and the immediate results.
You just proved my point, when business is the concern of the state, underproduction is a crime?

I do own private property. I also own guns to protect it.

>it's another "Brazilian doesn't know that stocks are pretty inexpensive" thread

Yes, the State always genocide the local population and usurps the property
The great grandfather bought the property so it's legitimate, and this ridiculous argument of a company buying all the land is a delusion with no basis in reality, as if it was, companies would be able to form monopolies in free markets, but that has never been observed even if it was tried, without a State creating the actual monopoly

I think we should burn all property.
Let's start with that "property" called Israel.

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Your land is literally on lease from the crown

Wait for real? I manage a couple hundred rentals.. might liquidate and make a move..

Then why does anyone pay income tax?

The distinction is retarded and made by communists trying to damage control their shitty ideology

Is my laptop private property? It can be used to create a multimillion dollar business.

Now you're arguing against the fiction person of corporation in eternity. I think you have merit here.

öhm, you know we kinda genocided foreigners not the locals...

Last time the crown took a subject's home away for not paying tax: 1600s
Last time the Federal gubmint took a citizen's home away for not paying tax: 10 minutes ago

Cope, slave.

>lets just call private property that we like personal property, that way i can still keep all my things
Kill yourself nigger.

The problem with communism is it wants to turn all personal property into private property of the state [and those born into controlling the state].

In other words all that changes is we have nothing, and those who currently have almsot everything sudeenly indeed have EVERYTHING.

Pic related look the same if capitalist globalists or communist globalists appear to be in charge. In reality those two systems are not mutually exclusive as people believe.

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>Politicians pleasing each other doesn't prove corruption
It does, the moment politicians depend on the political system to get elected they have incentives to obey those in power already, as politicians are almost all sociopaths with god complexes this always results in corruption
It's not a disconnection between population and politicians, it's a systemic design flaw of the system

>when business is the concern of the state, underproduction is a crime
I don't disagree with you, socialism is horrible

In a fascist economy you pay taxes out the ass and the government will repo everything you have if they dont like you. Its only a true expression of the government owning you, you fucking slave cuck.

Because having a bailiff entering your house and taking your sofa and microwave away and having your credit cards cancelled is pretty unpleasant experience I assume.

same thing, the State is a mafia that genocided previous land owners and beat then until they payed taxes and accepted to be slaves