Most of Europe in ancient times were brown Meds (on the eve of the Roman conquests, Europe was mostly either Greek, Phoenician, or Celtic). It wasn't until the 300s through around 1100 when Germanic peoples conquered all of Europe and spread their northern whiteness in the gene pools.
What you refer to as "white" is actually just most of Europe's Germanic common ancestry.
Don't believe me? Germanic people are the founders of modern European nations.
>England = Anglo-Saxons, Normans, Vikings >France and the low countries = Franks >Germany = Franks, Alamanni, Suebi, Thuringi, Bavarii, Saxons, etc. the Germanic homeland Italy = Ostrogoths, Lombards, Normans Spain = Visigoths, Vandals Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland = Vikings most of Eastern Europe = Ostrogoths and other Germanics who adopted Slavic languages Russia, Ukraine, Belarus = Varangians
>Most of Europe in ancient times were brown Meds (on the eve of the Roman conquests, Europe was mostly either Greek, Phoenician, or Celtic) forgot to add also Iranian (eastern europe was ruled by the scythians and sarmatians until slavicized in the middle ages)
so why are all the statues from those times of white people?
are you trying to spread misinformation mister?
David Turner
Explain Finns then as blonde and blue eyed?
Jaxson Martin
Kys shlomonigger (saged)
Nathan Brown
italian invasions started in 350dc and ended in 550dc. by 750dc, the two populations (germans and romans) merged, with little genetic shift from the pre-barbarian cluster. it must be also said that the distance between north italians (or republican romans) and south italians (or imperial romans) is the same as between north italians and shetlanders, not because north italians are at an intermediate position between shetlanders and south italians, but because shetlanders and south italians are respectively mongolized and africanized, compared to north italians. the actual racial polarity in europe is not north vs south, but pure vs mutts
Make up your mind. One day you are saying shit like "LOL FRANCE YOU ARE NOT WHITE MOHAMMED HAHAHAHA", to even the whitest of white French posters. One different day you come and say "WHY DO YOU LARP AS MEDITERRANEAN, FRENCH MAN ? YOU ARE A FRANK GERMANIC". And notice that it is ALWAYS, always, always an Amerimutt, the rootless GOBLIN by excellence, doing this sort of comments. That's enough. Leave European matters to Europeans, Gomez.
Landon Taylor
America hasn’t been white since the 80s
Angel Howard
Wrong. Meds turned brown after muslims came in and raped southern Italy and almost all of spain
Original Greeks (and Celts..and..Slavics..and Germanics) came from Eurasian steppe. They were of the same stock (Yamna Culture).
Hunter Williams
>wasn't until the 300s Wrong, the germanics/scythians/yamnaya have been reaving and raping to homogenize europe since prehistory. Even bleaching upto anatolia and indirectly north africa preislam.
Juan Rivera
Not the greek actually they come from middle eastern apparently.
Luis Hernandez
>france >franks 75% of France is celto-gallic >italy >ostrogoths you wish >spain >visigoths you wish >russia and ukraine >varangians again,you wish
Luis Robinson
It's not as simple as that. Some meds got browner but others got whiter. For example, Iron Age Romans were whiter than modern Italians, clustering somewhere around where Spainairds do today, but got brown'd during the imperial era. On the other hand, Bronze Age Greeks were less white than modern Greeks, clustering somewhere around where Sicilians do today, but got Slav'd during the Byzantine era, shifting them closer to Northern Europeans relative to the ancients.
Jace Diaz
You care too much about whos "actually white." That's why we're winning.
Jackson Perry
this is a meme. ancient greek commoners were the same as modern day greeks, and IF there was any class difference (which is extremely doubtful*) it must have been between modern day balkanians and modern day greeks.
*lazaridis 2017: "The elite Mycenaean individual from the ‘royal’ tomb at Peristeria in the western Peloponnese did not differ genetically from the other three Mycenaean individuals buried in common graves"
Why is history supposed to be accepted as doctrine when you provide no source evidence you niggerfaggots. Ive read your history books and they all contradict eachother and you change the story every generation. No one believes you faghots. This is why jews have been winning. They know their ancestry and that its based on mostly myth
Part of modern day Greek genes may have come from middle east but the Greek language came from Eurasiatic steppe, just like all Indo-European languages in Europe. Genes =/= Language. Therefore original Greeks, those who spoke the original form of Greek language came from Yamna Culture (propably via some steps).
Andrew Evans
Modern Greeks still today carry ancient Yamna genetic signal. It's in their dna.
>Therefore original Greeks, those who spoke the original form of Greek language came from Yamna Culture (propably via some steps). The Yamna spoke Proto-Indo-European. The Greek language ultimately descended from Proto-Indo-European, but the first people to speak the earliest forms of Greek were the Mycenaeans.
Just to be clear, I'm saying there is a connection but that Mycenaeans don't descend directly from Yamna. Yamna culture dates between 3300BC and 2600BC. It ended around 1000 years before the first Greeks appeared in Greece.
Mycenaean Greeks also had even less Yamna admixture than modern Greeks.
Nathan Cox
>on the eve of the Roman conquests >ancient dude stfu seriously
Jacob Flores
>Most of Europe in ancient times were brown Meds WE WUZ SHITSKINS N SHIET
minoans/mycenaeans are not ancient greeks, they were at war with ancient greeks.
Ian Gutierrez
maybe cause it was scarse and thus was something seem as divine and more beautiful, is no secret than modern Spaniards lose their shit in nordic countries over normie blonde girls or slavic. Thats why gods are despited that way, meanwhile despition of normal REAL people is presented as med.
William Brooks
Dont really give a fuck, meds and germanics are indo europeans anyway
Chase Bell
We know. They did massive amounts of niggering from sacking Rome (germs) to piracy (nord fags). Nord fags became civilized over time but germs still fucked europe three times over along the remaining history (world wars and the EU).
Adam Martin
That implies that if they were not scarce then they would instead make them swarthy, ugly, hairy, loud, perfidious and manlet. Trust me no one would.
You are confused. Minoans were the original inhabitants of Crete and Santorini. There was a similar indigenous group on mainland Greece which the Greeks called Pelasgians. They both spoke a non-IE language. The Mycenaeans were the Greeks of the Iliad and the Odyssey. They were IE speakers who arrived in Greece during the Bronze Age and subjugated the non-IE natives.
Eli Brooks
Then explain why so many Italians are dying from Coronavirus like Iranians
Aiden Howard
minoans were a bunch of MENA shitskins, or at least the equivalent of them. Even their culture/religion is clearly diffrent from ancient greeks. Mychaneans are at precursors, their religion is the equivalent of calling catholicism paganism because it implemented some local euro traditions or something. Local traditions used as LARP to make it more acceptable, the core and everything else still christ*anity.
ill shut you down about pelasgians once I read about them.
Lucas James
>precursors the opposite sorry
Matthew Wood
The Meds, in turn were remnants of older waves of White conquerers. This is a pattern in ancient history. There's never an african lord traveling north with his warriors, founding a new kingdom.
Jack Perez
why americans are such cucks ?
>HMMMM THE BLONDE BLUE EYED QT GIRLS RAPED IN MASS BY SWARTHY ARABS
Gavin Roberts
I'm sorry but your post is barely coherent. Are you still saying that you don't think the Mycenaeans were Greeks?
Alexander Harris
The fuck is dc? Is this some new fangled socialist euro kike to try to avoid referring to Christ? It's AD. Anno Domini. In the year of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Easton Martinez
Yes thats what Im saying. Let me read up on pelasgians.
Sebastian Price
alright even (((wikipedia))) says their origins are unkown and unless I missed the part of them being a minority/majority status then it doesnt exist. I dont have time to read up on them more than that before this gets archived so source for your claims?
Well you're wrong. Mycenaeans were the Achaeans of the Iliad. Ever heard of Agamemnon the King of Mycenae? These are the earliest and most racially pure Greeks and were the origin of Indo-European culture in the Aegean.
Pelasgians were the pre-Greek inhabitants of Greece. This isn't exactly obscure knowledge. Just read the entirety of the wikipedia page on them instead of skimming over it if you're still confused.
Zachary Price
They weren't brown meds dummy, they were Greeks, Celts and Phoenicians. All white, and the Greeks and Celts were very white, blond hair blue eyes.
Yea I read the (((wikipedia))) page and in the same part that it says about the theory you are talking about (amongst other 10 theories) it also says that the olympians come from armenians. So give me an actual source if you have it besides (((wikipedia))).
They were anything but racially pure. Either greeks who invaded and mixed with descendants of minoans or descendants of minoans who invaded and mixed with greeks. And thats best case scenario.
Zachary Davis
>They weren't brown meds dummy, they were Greeks, Celts and Phoenicians. All white, and the Greeks and Celts were very white, blond hair blue eyes.
>Them >Blond blue eyed Shut the fuck up australia and they can thank the slavs for that
Ryder Myers
sorry not armenian but anatolian. G*d Im fucking drugged today.
Jackson Ortiz
Phoenicians were just ancient tribes out of Sardinia, Sicily and Greece (and possible Iberia and other parts of southern Italy) who went into what we now call Lebanon and came back out again.
Landon Cook
>They were anything but racially pure. Either greeks who invaded and mixed with descendants of minoans or descendants of minoans who invaded and mixed with greeks. And thats best case scenario. They were the very earliest Greeks. If even they were too mixed to be considered Greek then that means there were no Greeks.
>So give me an actual source There's a list of ancient poets and historians who talk about them on the wikipedia page, you fucking brainlet nigger.
Phenotypes in Ireland and Scotland (Beakers, Picts, Gaels) all derivatives of Celts remained light skinned and non-Germanic predating the Saxon invasions.. I get it, you're American and want to justify your melting pot mythos. Thing is user, it's not the truth of the European continent.
Lincoln Cooper
The fact that mychaneaeans had a place for the olympians but they were also heavily influenced by the minoans (some kind of MENA shitskin culture not related at all) makes pretty obvious. What (((wikipedia))) must mean when it says that they were the first to speak greek languange is that they were the first to have it extensivelly written. Which is not something Im surprised of because civ*lization is a shitskin concept so of course you would find extensive written language amonst shitskins.
>There's a list of ancient poets and historians who talk about them on the wikipedia page, you fucking brainlet nigger. Alright copy paste the parts where those ancient poets and ancient historians describe their racial characteristics cause I didnt find them.
Adam Roberts
If you believe that Meds somehow had their physical traits drastically changed within a millennium, you are sadly fucking retarded. The never had broadly Nordic traits
>ancient historians describe their racial characteristics They only spoke a non-IE language. They weren't significantly racially different from the Greeks. The original Greeks were swarthoids similar to other nearby IE groups of the time such as the Hittites.
Hudson Flores
>Russia, Ukraine, Belarus = Varangians
WE WUZ VIKANGZ N SHIEEEEEET
Landon Cooper
Southern Italy has been like it is since centuries before the Roman Republic. It's predominantly Greek
It's because blonde and blue eyes seem to be a feature that originated in the baltic areas. I'm not 100% sure about this theory though
Luis Diaz
>Even their culture/religion is clearly diffrent from ancient greeks. Not really, it was more like a continuum >once I read about them. That is the funniest way of admitting you do not have a clue i've ever read, bravo user
