I'm looking for the user awhile back that was talking about Talented and Gifted programs being used to identify promising youth so they can secretly be kept down their entire lives. I think I slid through the cracks so to speak and I had a weird realization that one of my teachers was aware and perhaps protected me, although we didn't see eye to eye much.
Recently, it's been 10 years since my graduation and sadly all of those kids that were in it are fucked now. Abuse alcohol and drugs, grinding at a shit job for mediocre pay, college degree etc and more or less have lost the spark within them. They followed the system as they were taught but it ruins people in a way that is hard to describe. Everything I've learned has been self taught almost and I'm actually succeeding in life. I've never been healthier, more spiritually sound, getting close to being financially free, physically fit etc.
When I was about 6, I had a dream that lasted years. I remember so clearly, I lived my life in a dream until about 80ish and my mother woke me up for school. I was only asleep for 5 minutes, I used her as a snooze alarm( Just 5 more minutes mom) I had a daughter and a family, it was so real. I cried when I woke up because I had felt the time pass. I have felt deeply connected to something more ever since then, but somewhat lost my innocence at that point as well. Idk if the experience was a part of the light or darkness unfortunately. My spark has grown stronger. I desperately want to lift others in the same facets I described above, it's all I think about and work to complete.
My school did this in the early 90s by merging the "gifted" class with the "divorced parents" class.
the new class was obligatory, wasted time, and meant more classwork as a whole. it was called "rainbows" and it was almost certainly designed to keep smart kids down and force dumb kids into higher roles.
Fuck that school.
Wyatt Allen
I'm close to opening a business where I can ideally empower others to achieve freedom. It's in the food industry where I'd do traditional American style cuisine but only the best quality ingredients. Food is the basis of all life and anyone literally anyone can work that kind of job. I'm not concerned with profit so much as long as I can continue to operate and reinvest to expand Bezos style to impact as many people as possible. I only eat wholefoods, grass fed butters dairy and the cleanest cuts of meat, healthy fats, lots of green vegetables, spring water, coffee, honey, dark chocolate eggs, herbs, onion, garlic, fresh cold pressed juicing of vegetables as well etc you get the idea (if interested I'll gladly give a full list) since I was 19. My starchy carb intake is low, mostly potato and occasionally rice. I haven't had my immune system compromised in almost 4 years.
Its funny the Talented and Gifted kids would ask the teacher why I wasn't included, as I would routinely beat them in academic competitions. In fact that very teacher signed me up for speech class, and I laughed at her because I didn't have my two front teeth in yet, no shit bitch I can't pronounce "Th" or "Sh" well, give it a year. It was maybe 4th grade. In fact I remember a day she specifically got mad near the time she was deciding who was drafted into the program, she chose 6 kids, but there was no limit. A daddy long leg was crawling on the window seal near a girl's desk and she freaked out and screamed for someone to kill it. Naturally, a boy went over to smash it and yelled stop , don't kill it and ran over before he could. I scooped it up and set it outside, there was a door from the classroom that went directly to the playground. She was not happy for whatever reason though.
I saw the Schizo general threads being posted and it reminded of this. I meditate frequently and have lucid dreams sometimes as well
Interesting. The program at my school was called REAP. Also early 90s
Eli Jenkins
That sounds much different, although I remember a rainbow colored theme with how the word was spelled. I'd always ask the kids what they did in the program as it was only like 6 of them and they would never really tell me what they were doing, which I thought was strange, perhaps just to mess with me. I went all through elementary and highschool with almost the exact same 120 kids ( small school, small towns).
Jack Gomez
Wow, kids that peak in high school find out they're not special in the real world and turn to drugs, which tends to ruin their lives. Whoda thunk it. >I was about 6, I had a dream that lasted years. I remember so clearly, I lived my life in a dream until about 80ish and my mother woke me up Yer right morty wazzleugga dig dig! I saw that episode
Dylan Nguyen
STINKIES
Sebastian Butler
I honestly don't know what episode you are talking about, I don't watch much t.v. and have seen maybe a handful of episodes with a friend a couple years ago maybe. I assure you this did happen to me.
Adrian Edwards
Wow, I.D. checks out. "gem" DR, NS etc. They are part of my path to financial freedom and have been kind to me the last 3 years. I bought incredibly early. I'm ashamed I didn't buy more but I have my make it stack. Any thoughts on the topic at hand as well?
Just do some research G.A.T.E was developed at Tavistock & anyone that was a part of the program will agree it was weird...in hindsight,possibly just a global vetting program for children with motivated cognition /pattern recognition... to what end? That's the multi-million dollar question.
Andrew Butler
Bed knobs and broomsticks... track balls and VAX terminals. Orange drank, and someone to thank. We shall not acknowledge that old stars fade or stronger planets arise...
Ethan Barnes
Elaborate? How may I assist you? What would you like to know?
Juan Jenkins
LINK $1000 EOY
Andrew Garcia
Whales eat 100million tons fish in a year, while world's all fishermen catch 20million tons fish in a year. Whale is enemy of mankind. Whaling should be legal, it's delicious and it's a good source of fuel. For the people that hunt whales, this is a very profitable activity. It is clearly not easy to hunt down a huge animal such as a whale, and as such they turn into heroe whenever they do manage to do so, and they get a lot of profit out of it. Fuck whale, the minke is not even endangered. Not our business what Asia does anyway. m.youtube.com/watch?v=WFER5XwEG9I m.youtube.com/watch?v=bCdOyI5DRG8
m.youtube.com/watch?v=jT8X76ftn_w Whale is the cow of ocean with more meat, fat is useful too Humpback whales such as we see in Hawaii every year in the summertime will eat up to 2–1/2 tons per day. They also eat schooling fish such as capelin, herring, sardines, and whatever else they can get. Do the math. They're sea jews always crying about muh extinction but there's millions of them and they destroy the planet. Fuck whale. They dumb as fuck. They come on land, evolve, then go back in water like a retard. Live in ocean but need air... Fucking stupid. There are zero anti whaling facts, no whale has ever been extinct by humans or Africans The late Dr. E.J. Slijper, who was a world authority on cetaceans, said "...it seems improbable that an animal which propels itself mainly with its tail should need a more highly developed brain than, for instance, a monkey which uses all its limbs so skillfully."
Thank you so much! I will be researching this asap. I didn't know Tavistock was involved. Did these programs start in the early 90's?
Jacob Powell
I do eat a lot of fish and seafood. Is whale the final redpill I was unaware of?
William Williams
YES
Christopher King
we had something like this too in upstate NY. still dont know who they were but certain people were assigned to follow certain students, would show up "coincidentally" at extremely odd times. i made my tail once and never saw him again after that, which in a town as small as mine, was statistically improbable.
Lincoln Brooks
>Bed knobs and broomsticks... track balls and VAX terminals. Orange drank, and someone to thank. We shall not acknowledge that old stars fade or stronger planets arise...
Child stars then and now? Explain?
Logan Barnes
That sounds creepy. The program at my school had one teacher for the 6 kids. They would leave normal class relatively early in the morning and go to the special program for about 2 hours a day and then would come back to normal class after lunch.
Bentley Collins
You sound like you have a mental illness But if it work its works
I am 30 years old now living in an apartment high school and all the hell I had to deal with as a sped feels like 1000 centuries ago . honestly not sure where to go from here after high school I ended up in a mental asylum after dealing with auditory hallucinations gf left me right before that . fuck my life
It actually runs in my family. Father is diagnosed with clinical depression, my sister is bipolar, and my mother had body dismorphia. They laugh and say I got lucky but I probably do have mild schizophrenia if that is a thing. I don't hear things or halucinate but I don't really believe in coincidence and see seemingly innocuous connections and patterns in everything, which has led me to where I'm at now.
It might help to seek out christ and of course if you actually have hallucinations get proper help. I'm weary of medications though to curb your innate abilities in general. What do they tell you?
Thank you for sharing, it was not this thread. If I remember correctly the guy used the trip "diogenes"
Sebastian Butler
the school put me into the "gifted program" in grade 6, needless to say, I only went once before I realized it was retarded class.
We spent 3 hours building fucking mazes out of cardboard tubes for marbles, and then one autist threw a pair of scissors across the room and hit someone in the forehead
Benjamin Hall
Hahaha I also saw the kids in my class come back from the gifted program with construction paper things they made and I never knew wtf was actually going on in there. Those kids did seem bright though, one of them became the valedictorian eventually. He seems to have a lot of personal problems now though and again has given up on building greatness with his abilities. Its like his soul got drained from his body, he doesn't look good or happy physically. I supposed I don't know his intimate personal details, but he seems to have loving parents and girlfriend at least
Carter Hernandez
>people were assigned to follow certain students Had a teacher follow me to one school and become a principal in the middle of the year, and another principal become the superintendent. He had me over at his house, paid for a fieldtrip, and put me on the city wide student council. I was offered GATE testing for 175$, with 100$s off. But I can't get a single person to remember if they had to pay for it. In fact they all say they didn't. Never took it. Drank juice while they did the testing by myself for some reason. Either way I had two friends in there. One I was smarter than, other other not. He dropped out of the class, made a band, then divorced his wife after two kids. The other guy skipped two grades, and I never saw him again after he left for a two week camp in the middle of the school year.
Ian Butler
all the medications ever did to me was make me sick to the point I could hardly move and the hallucinations were not voices it was opera type music that does not exist used to happen at night when I lived on the Mohawk reservation on a abandoned side road . its not come back but I always fear I will start to lose it again so I have accepted I will never have a family
Ian Cook
Interesting, if you dont mind wading through all the nutzos, you might try to fish for more info. Im convinced were intentionally held back/debuffed in contemporary school to just pump out wage slaves.
i wasnt protected and i dont fit in at all i was in gifted program in elementary doing rorschach tests this threads prob slide bullshit anyway but i always want to reply it wasnt called GATE was just called gifted program or something i ended up getting a patch over my right eye in middle school where the pigment is gone even took the color from my hair in the area i always remember that being a thing mentioned in these threads regarding head scars and near death experiences
Cameron Lopez
I was a highly intelligent kid and still am highly intelligent, and my whole school life In the public system I was always put in the borderline retard class because of my adhd. Yes, I was quite impulsive, but it’s difficult not to get a little rowdy when you’re surrounded by retards.
Logan Ortiz
>one autist threw a pair of scissors across the room and hit someone in the forehead
We shall lie down in the eye of the sun for lack of a light on our way.
Elijah Morris
I remember I was chosen for a G.A.T.E. program. They had us do a bunch of essays, even though my language skills were already way above grade level. I found that fucking boring, so I quit. I guess that was a smart move judging from what OP said that other user suggested.
Thomas Green
I was in GATE in third grade. La Mesa Elementary, Monterrey, CA. Had two teachers for regular class. good cop, bad cop style. good cop loved me. suggested I go into GATE. twice a week, transpo to some other deserted school. read weird books, did higher level science projects. fitness stuff. didnt pan out. been working check-to-check all my life. 30 now. trad wife and child. good paying job in a small business that is rising and expanding. but still renting. not where I want to be financially. lots of weird memories from that time in my life. imaginary ghost friend. pokemon blue. Christina Marie Williams.
Jeremiah Reed
That's interesting. I don't believe any of the kids were required to pay for the program at my school. The guy who skipped to grades, was there anything else notable about him? Which one was he? I'm starting to think those programs looked for those with incredibly high IQ and logic analytical thinking without any of the otherside to balance their morals. They wanted to find those with master morality and zero slave morality. Mark Passio natural law.
Tyler Rivera
"They don't bother not talking out loud about their hate secrets when I'm nearby because they think I'm deaf and dumb. Everybody thinks so. I'm cagey enough to fool them that much. If my being half Indian ever helped me in any way in this dirty life, it helped me being cagey, helped me all these years"
Zachary Myers
I thought about /x/ but the previous thread was put here by another user and I was hoping he would see it, but that is a long shot. You are right it pumps out slaves, but what is the importance of the gifted classes?
Tyler Harris
>88 s...sergey?
Bentley Kelly
Blessed 216 poster. BigDogg was right, and it's literally happening right now alongside the rest of these happenings. Checked.
>The guy who skipped to grades, was there anything else notable about him? Yeah, he skipped into my grade and out of it in half a school year, was younger than me, (I would have been 19 at graduation anyway, him 16 after skipping one grade. But then another). He was reading 1,000 page books as a 13 yr old that my dad, a lifelong reader, was reading. He was brilliant.
Jayden Bailey
Its really not a slide thread, I just made this randomly after seeing the schizo threads. I just want answers. I feel like I'm living a life that others should be living who are more than capable if not more so than myself. Hmm go on about the last part. I don't have any head scars or near death experiences just the "forever dream" as it were
Dominic Thompson
you've lifted me up sergey. i have the spark, too.
i went to public school in nyc and was pulled aside to talk to the school psychologist once every two weeks. she didn't even have an office did it in an old utility closet. it feels so weird it feels like I didn't haooen at all.
it started when I took those standardized math and literacy tests and scored in the 99th percentile in both
i don't remember being in gate per se but I remember being placed in "academy" classes after this. mid 90s
Hunter Turner
Perhaps we both lucked out then. I didn't understand why I wasn't included but it ironically didn't deter me or make me feel less than, in fact I began to work harder if anything, but not for them, for myself. I've always been impossible to control in general. Its been a curse and a boon
Ayden Brooks
I was in it. I’m thinking about robbing a bank or something these days. It won’t stop
Camden Ortiz
"gifted" and "talented" and "challenge" programs do not hold people down, jesus christ. i'm sure the only people that fail after coming through a program like that and then going to college 1. lack social skills and 2. suck at math so they majored in the liberal arts and got a useless degree and skills from their college
want to be successful? go through an advance program like that, get into a sheeple recognized program like AP or IB, but don't just guzzle down the brainwashing globalist cum they throw at you. and don't just do nerdy shit. play a sport or have some other hobby that gets you away from complete nerds for a few hours during the week. also learn python and how to use excel and sql. BOOM. you will always be able to fall back on a $80k/year job and you won't be so anti-social that people at work will help you succeed more.
the sequel? your quarter-life crisis when you make it to a coveted Director or VP position and realize that even now pulling six figures for the first time in your pathetic worker-slave life doesn't change your daily activities, desires, hopes, dreams, etc. you're still you and you still live in this shitty world that will continue to hold you down anyway because you weren't born into a billionaire's family and you will never be Mark Zuckerberg and the amount of change you bring about in the world is negligible and history will forget about you.
Zachary Ward
I had pokemon yellow. Buy LINK, but I don't want to distract from the topic. Check /biz. Godspeed I hope to have a family like that one day, but I also feel deep down I'm not meant too for some reason. I'm here to empower and teach others love, truth, justice, and freedom
Ayden Young
Weird, I was in one of these. I don't think I'm gifted I could just think faster than most kids. Plenty of rich actual prodigies in the gifted program that went on to be addicts. Probably the results of being wealthy and told your gifted your whole early life.
That is a hasty judgment from just a few paragraphs. What in particular set you off?
Ayden Walker
Oh fuck. I hear that opera woman singing
Carson Cook
That is a logical explanation. You get told you are special your whole life, don't apply yourself, and it doesn't pan out exactly how you think could be soul crushing.
Anthony Wilson
Another possible explanation. You can always bring change to your community. That is what I will be doing. If it branches farther it would be as you said a miracle basically.
Ryder Watson
What part specifically? What did you identify with exactly?
Jayden Baker
HOW ABOUT NOT POSTING THAT PIC ON Yas Forums YOU FUCKING FAGGOT. THEY DO NOT DESERVE TO MAKE IT
i scored in the 99th percentile on all those tests and went to gat. it was rad. we just read stuff and talked to other smart kids. some hot girls were in it too. my first gf i knew from gat but before that we did gymastics together so it wasnt only from gat that i knew her. think it stopped after 6th or 7th grade? the last year we listed to music on tapes while drawing and bullshitting. the teacher who did it was a big titty milf. this was the 80's and early 90.s
the were some kids that were retards and shit but other kids in gat were cool and popular. not everyone with a high iq is a tard or loser.
Isaiah Butler
I had some similar issues with school. In kindergarten, we had these little booklets we had to read. One was about making bread, and they were really boring. I got mad and recited it from memory and the teacher got mad at me, saying something like "You're not supposed to memorize it, that doesn't count!" I hated the school board ever since. I went to work for them as a substitute janitor (grinding at a shit job, like op said) anyway and hated them more. Quit. Alcholism too (like op said). The gifted program was fucking bullshit. We read "The Kay" or however it was spelled. Some book about a nigger and a blind boy stranded. Built some towers with marshmallows and toothpicks. I opted out, then back in so I could choose classes I wanted in high school.
Chase Sullivan
yeah.. gifted kid here put in those classes full of nerds. dropped out at age 15 after passing 12th grade exit exam. almost 30 now with $200 in the bank and chronic alcoholism based
Jordan Morgan
I they're legit trying to find actual geniuses. a 12-135 IQ and decent emotional reasoning isn't going to cut it. I think the concern is that it could be a cover for something else. Why all the ESP testing? My mother remembered having ESP contests at their school for a week, because she won. Supposedly, we thought the Soviets and Chinks could read our minds at one point, because so many traitors, really.
Gabriel Campbell
Wasn't me but I have a story about one such person.
I attended standard american education from 1997 to 2011, one dude from my class was bumped up a grade for being advanced. Pretty smart kid and was always socially ostricized for being younger, and a bit squid like (always wailing around, limpish) he was placed in the G.A.T.E program, Gifted and Talented education but they never seemed to do anything that had to do with normal or even advanced education. It always seemed to be some kind of socialization program that entailed reading kids books to special ed, or doing some kind of community projected (localized to the school grounds). I was recommended to join the same program due to various reasons but told my parents I didn't want to be with the nerds. Return to the said kid he continued on to be salutatorian from our k-8 and valedictorian in his high school and got a full ride scholarship to Berkeley. He was there for only 1-2 years only to drop out and came back home absolutely wreaked, a shadow of his former existence, he talked feminine, any trace of masculinity was gone. He only posts on social media about obscure noise bands, and Bernie Sanders. He used to be very good in conversation, and we would work together on projects often. Mostly little robotic projects, or electronics and such.
Now he doesn't even seem to think, or use his brain at all. I know he used drugs in college, and was exposed to a different crowd. It often saddens me to think of what became of him. I lost my buddy and partner to such non-sense. He was a good friend, but I consider him dead, not only to myself but also to the world.
I often wonder if it all started with the programs he was forced into, and being younger then his peers at all times if it fostered an environment that made self destruction only easier.
Hudson Walker
>Recently, it's been 10 years since my graduation and sadly all of those kids that were in it are fucked now. Abuse alcohol and drugs, grinding at a shit job for mediocre pay, college degree etc and more or less have lost the spark within them. They followed the system as they were taught but it ruins people in a way that is hard to describe. Everything I've learned has been self taught almost and I'm actually succeeding in life. I've never been healthier, more spiritually sound, getting close to being financially free, physically fit etc.
Because theres a correlation between super high IQ people and their inability to function in a society, all genius people I've known were either druggies or have some type of hoarding or OCD problems, sure its great if they can use most of their brain the majority can't use but if they're deficient in that one area required to function normally then whats the point of it all?
Aaron Garcia
The only path to a brighter future is to ensure everyone makes it. We must spread abundance to everyone instead of centralize it because evil always seeks to absorb and control power. You can't know who is good or evil so we must give to all and balance will be acheived. Currently evil has the upper hand, but its always that way until the light comes together at the final hour and crushes darkness as it always does.
Nathaniel Brown
Damn, this is weird. Former GATE student here. Went to a mostly middle class school in California. All the girls I went to school with got basic degrees and moderate success. All the dudes got fucked up by (fill in whatever societal issue) but a few of us manage to make very good money in the trades. A couple of the others are broke losers (drugs/crime). No one made it “big” though. No Ivy League schools. No million dollar jobs in NYC.
Jayden Wilson
It sounds like you had a good experience in the program which is promising. Did your school have a decent budget?
Isaac Sanders
Interesting post user, I went to a gifted school that served 4th-8th grade students and while most kids there were indeed intelligent and much more interesting, deep and complex, the rather laissez faire unstructured environment was probably unhelpful for development of self control, discipline, and the willpower to delay gratification. Couple high intellect with lack of discipline and gratification seeking tendencies and those kids will be well equipped, resourceful, confident early finders and users of drugs or happy participants in other unwise behaviors.
One of my best friends who I met there died of alcohol poisoning at 26, another who who was a tall, chiseled Teutonic with a ferocious ~170 IQ and a delightfully amusing, sophisticated and gregarious personality is now in prison on a string of crimes committed to fuel his meth addiction. Plenty are successful professionals but just as many are fuckups and dropouts, in retrospect it seems that the kids with lenient/passive parents tended to suffer from lack of discipline and structure in school whereas the children of stronger or more authoritarian parents must have had enough discipline at home to not be damaged much by its absence in the school. I'm one of the dropouts btw, but got myself sorted out, started a business and have a good woman and 2 lovely little girls now. Don't think I'll be risking their futures by sending them to such a place!
Evan Peterson
Oh, dear. user, no...that...that was retard class.
Yes the teacher assigned to choosing the kids for the program would always get mad at me because I basically wouldn't do things their way, but I always got the right end result. One time I got an F on a math test because everything on it was involving money and I didnt put a single dollar sign on the paper but the math was correct. She wrote that on the test as to why I missed every question. Otherwise it was a perfect score.
Michael Sullivan
when i did this it was based on straight iq testing. in gat, they gave us old sat tests to do if we wanted in middle school but i never did becuase i wanted to draw instead. i still got a super high sat was was nmsf with no prep on the old sat. there were a few popular kids in gat. one kid in it was the qb on the football team in high school and became a doctor. a few others were hot girls including my gf. one guy i did gat with is a math professor now. in gat, we would draw funny meme style cartoons that were often un-pc together. shit like illustrated street scenes of nyc at the time, full of nigger crack heads and bums drinking out of bags, which we saw all the time irl.
Nolan Cooper
Most of them were popular though as well, I was not, but I had my friend group and got along well for the most part with my peers.
Jack Cox
>dropped out at age 15 after passing 12th grade exit exam They wouldn't let me get a GED until my class graduated. I got off for my truancy w/o punishment from the courts and dropped out, argued my own case, but some fag in a wig in the school board was given the right the bar me until then. Top 1% on that and top 3% on the ACT as a dropout. Nothing special. Also, 34, and an alcoholic. I got 5grand though in the bank. Thinking on moving out of my codependent alcoholic relationship and sobering up for a few months.
Nathaniel Carter
That is incredibly sad, these people have the spark and its clearly destroyed in some manner.
Julian Green
Did white whare eat your famiry?
Jacob Ward
I too think its more than just high IQ, but a certain way of thinking. Inner monologue etc? ESP would be interesting.
Evan Turner
You were the crop.
Matthew Foster
This is basically my highschool graduating class as well. No one even remotely made it big from what I can tell. I need to look more into it though, but it was only 120ish kids, with less than 10 the whole 12 years in those programs.
Elijah Russell
These kids weren't retarded though. I know for a fact at least the boys were incredibly bright. We had a checker tournament that year and I crushed literally everyone except one of the gifted kids I still beat but it was incredibly close. He would have beaten me eventually probably. The whole class was excited and gathered around. I was probably 9ish
